@ perkel

Why do some people get so upset when other people refer to these people as kids?

The hackers motivations behind hacking PSN were childish, that's what makes them kids, doesn't necessarily mean they are all 13 year olds.

Perkel.

Low life.

I honestly don't care. I just want to see the back of these articles

Yeah I could cheat my way to riches too. It isn't hard to go to school to learn these things then do things on your own. You hack a few things and find communities, maybe create your own, and learn from each other.

Do you know how many people are just as rich as them doing the same things in a legitimate job? They don't steal things and ruin things for other people, they help instead. Build products of our future, and secure holes so these idiots can't get in.

I call them kids because they act like kids. If they don't want this image then don't do it. When they were attacking companies with legitimate reasons I was fine with that, they had reasons to do it and an issue backing their decisions. But to attack a company and ruin service for millions of users all because they can't steal games? give me a break.

I wouldn't sell out a friend. But a friend wouldn't be stupid enough to go on with a decision like this behind my back, even when I told him not to. You know very well the people that did it were sitting their laughing everyday PSN was down, thus the image of kids comes to mind. The very least he could do is talk to them into coming clean and leave it up to them. Meanwhile telling Sony how it was accomplished so future attacks can be avoided.

"You'd respect him more if he was a rat? Selling out former friends and colleagues, probably real-life ones at that, just to make life easier for himself and deliver some sort of vindication for the little fan-kiddies? Get over it, man."

You say that as if protecting criminals is any more noble than reporting them. You're just twisting it to make it sound like he's doing it for himself, but Soldierone is suggesting he do it for the right reason... Because they are criminals.

lol at you naive little n4g users arguing.

You guys have no idea how difficult it is to bypass software security made by some of the most powerful and smartest firms on this planet.

To call them kids only reflects on yourself really. There are definitely loads of 13 year olds who try to hang around the anonymous crowd because it sounds cool to them. They may probably be responsible for DDoS attacks too but did you know that to do a DDoS attack you just download a simple program and press click and it does it all for you. They even made a web version. All of this was readily available on their websites and IRC channels during the wikileaks incident.

You have to be very very smart to be able to hack into these security systems and usually the person who did it would be doing a related course at university or at least have already done it.

The guy disassociated himself from OpSony because he feels that there are people there who are only taking advantage of the cause for their own personal interests. I think it's a bit stupid to leave over something like that but it's his decision.

@ Soldierone, he's not expecting you to forgive him nor does he want your forgiveness nor does he even know you to even think of wanting it. His moral standards and ideals are far surpassing than your sheepish and blind brand loyalty.

@ Soldierone

Who said i agree with them ? Especially with stealing data :>

I just want to make clear people that they are not 13year old basement dwealer, but people who probably are no diffrent than we and with their knowelage they can earn a lot more than we. Some of them can even work for security firms.

As of childish reasons..

So thief who stole your money is childish ?
Your neighbours who hates you is childish too ?

No dude, childish reason is when you steal your friend cup of coffe.

Hate and buisness is not childish.

Sorry i don't see anything childish in their idealogy.

They don't brake law (with DDOS attacks) and they teach firms that they are not invulnerable as they want to be for cammon people.

Idealogy is right, method for doing it, is wrong. Also i don't see any other diffrent way to realize their idealogy which is sad.

Perkel: "As of childish reasons..

So thief who stole your money is childish ?
Your neighbours who hates you is childish too ?

No dude, childish reason is when you steal your friend cup of coffe.

Hate and buisness is not childish.

Sorry i don't see anything childish in their idealogy."

What the hell are you on about?

I believe the motives for attacking PSN were childish as they were selfish and did nothing to promote any cause or "idealogy" although I think you mean ideology...

"but to the extent that someone sits things out when we're working to promote liberty and fight dictatorships but then hops on board when we start going after an electronics firm that's perpetrated far lesser villainy, one has to question those peoples' priorities."

And it seems that this chap, of which you appear to hold in such high regards, thinks so too.

These fucking hacker POS just can't stand being in the dark eh? They love to have attention for being apart of something big. This dumb shit loser no longer is associated with those homos, okay great, so why does he have to go public about it and tell the whole world? No one gives a shit about him, no one cares about who he is or what he does so stop covering this asshole and leave him and all hackers where they belong, in the dark! Stop giving them the attention they never got in school, from girls, or maybe too much attention from their daddies. Giving them attention and covering them makes these losers feel like they belong and are something special to be talked about. Fuck it! Fuck them in the spooky dark!

@ Perkel now your just being stubborn because those examples made no sense
Their antics were very childish ..
Your beginning argument was that they werent kids now that someone pointed out that they dont mean age wise when they call them children you want to change up and say they werent acting childish .. there arent many things that get under my skin on the internet or in life in general but when someones too stubborn to admit they misunderstood its just dumb and childish .. especially on the internet

@ThanatosDMC You actually believe that don't you?

@Therealspy03 Yeah its pretty worrying that people can't see it.

Wiki def: "The term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.

The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state."

I live in the country that loves its freedoms. You're telling me i live in a police state in which a country ran by some thugs waving their guns to hurt people without reason? It's scary that you think that. I hope you're living in an island by yourself so can pleasure yourself with the thought of a prison planet.

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