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PSN Return Delayed, Hackers Publish Stolen Data

Sony on Friday said it would have to further delay the return of PlayStation Network following a massive security breach, just as reports stated hackers posted personal details stolen from a Sony database.

According to Reuters report out of Tokyo, Sony was able to remove those published details from a website, although the report didn't say exactly what website hosted the stolen information.

Personal details of some 2,500 people were posted, including names and "some addresses" that were in a 2001 database. The security breach has affected 77 million PSN and Qriocity accounts, and 24.6 million Sony Online Entertainment accounts.

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tehpees35368d ago

they realise this is against both the data protection act and computer misuse act

Best5368d ago

In an attempt to eliminate the hackers, I had a hotdog.

Hydrolex5368d ago

these guys are smart ! not gonna lie

imagine if they used their brains for something useful in this economy ! or if they used their brain working for NASA

ComboBreaker5368d ago

But but but... Hacking is not an act of terrorism!

Theonetheonly5368d ago

dude this is crazy!!

didnt just before PSN went down they say something like "Prepare for the biggest hack you've ever seen" or something like that?

gamingisnotacrime5368d ago

saying they are smart is a half truth
these guys are messing around with what OTHERS did in their jobs. Putting people like this in an scenario where they have to create instead of disrupting might not be their sweet spot

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HolyOrangeCows5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

Thank god the phonebooks weren't hacked! You really blew it, Sony!
/s

Kahvipannu5367d ago

"But but but... Hacking is not an act of terrorism! "

You should check what the word terrorism means, hacking really don't count on it. Not saying it's good thing, it's terrible, but not terrorism.

Jihaad_cpt5367d ago

Definition of terrorism:

1. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

2.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes

3.systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal

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So what these hackers are doing sounds exactly like terrorism, just because they are not killing Americans doesn't mean they are not performing acts of terrorism

harrisk9545367d ago (Edited 5367d ago )

Cyberterrorism is a phrase used to describe the use of Internet based attacks in terrorist activities, including acts of deliberate, large-scale disruption of computer networks, especially of personal computers attached to the Internet, by the means of tools such as computer viruses.

What has happened here to Sony and its customers is terrorism through and through. It is the stated goal of Anonymous to disrupt Sony's business and this has certainly done that and has created a fear that may prevent people from doing future business with Sony.

Sony is a corporation that makes consumer electronics. They are in business to make a profit. They were protecting their proprietary product (the PS3) within the confines of the law. Agree or don't agree with the law, but Sony was within its rights. Just as Apple, MS, IBM, CocaCola or any other company is within its rights to protect their own products. These hackers are operating outside the law with terroristic methods designed to intimidate Sony based upon some misguided sense of morality.

badz1495367d ago

Are lowlife SCUM!! Please just go to prison already, better yet go straight to hell!!

RedDead5367d ago

Terrorism ain't always bad. Sometimes it's the only way to achieve freedom. Jus sayin.

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saladthieves5368d ago

Jesus Christ. When will this game end?

a_squirrel5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

Why are you asking him? Besides, if Jesus was on N4G we wouldn't have these problems. ;D

saladthieves5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

There he is, ask him whatever you want. He'd be happy to reply to you!

starcb265368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

Can I get my 2 bubbles back Jezuz?

b163o15368d ago

This is starting to piss me off, I've missed sooo much KZ3. Ok guys we get it, we know you guys can hack(Rage against the machine) point taken. Now just let us play our games online again.

Bimkoblerutso5368d ago

I'm sorry, this is a very serious article, but...this string of comments really made me lol.

ps3destroyer5367d ago

It will never end if ps3 fanboys exist.The hackers have a clear scope here destroy the ones who got their leader in jail.That's why Microsoft just banned everyone and didn't get anyone to jail.

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jke825368d ago

they def dont care but on the otherside of the coin WHOOPTY DOO they published data that included NAMES AND ADDRESSES...so they make a big story of the hackers publishing what is BASIC DATA you can get OUTTA THE PHONE BOOK...i mean its 2500 names and addresses... so basically the took the average towns yellow pages and photocopied it........what a joke...how is that to be worried about..in addition to that its from a 10 YEAR OLD DATABASE

a good percentage of it is probably outdated.

Blaine5368d ago

Agreed. It's pure fear-mongering and misinformation. Journalists with 0 integrity bending the truth to make sensationalist news.

Just read the headline: the data published isn't even from the PSN hack. But the way they say it, makes it sound like 70 million credit card numbers were published, when that's not the truth at all.

socomnick5368d ago

:/ yea they just published that useless data to show that they truly do posses the information.

Glad to see they did not post other data such as CC info, current psn subscriber addresses, phone numbers etc.

Rainstorm815368d ago

yea socomnick

They got PSN names from a database from 2001..huh?...and PSN was available to the public in 2006.

These are some gifted hackers if they can steal 2006-2011 info from a database with info from 2001

Do any of you trolls use your brains??? **dumb question**

Media fearmongering.....i wish gaming journalists were actually all about gaming journalism.....some are but most arent

zag5368d ago

What you don't understand is that data would be from evercrack.

jke825367d ago

ok but raiin is right how did they steal info from a 10 year old database that the story says is from psn in 2001 if psn didnt start up till 2006

HOW INDEED?!?!?!

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CryofSilence5368d ago

I look forward to the perpetrators facing two 10 year imprisonment periods in federal prisons.

cannon88005368d ago

These hackers need a wake up call if you ask me. I seriously hope they realize that if any one of them get caught they're going to be in serious trouble. Messing around with millions of people's private information is not funny at all.

KidBroSweets25367d ago (Edited 5367d ago )

Which is why I'm wondering why Sony is second guessing whether or not they should offer a reward for the help of identifying these hackers like the article say. I don't understand the negatives of it?

zeddy5367d ago

glad to know the hackers are on our side. release all our info! fight the power!

bozebo5367d ago

If everybody could access the data then at least people could look for their own data and see exactly what info was leaked, that could put some concerns at rest - but then other people can also use it maliciously, particularly if the original hacker group didn't have the manpower to exploit much of it :(

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n4gisatroll5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

I hope those people get put in prison for life. Who do they think they are screwing with thousands of peoples lives. They are terrorist's in the highest manner.

Edit:

Btw what's up with getting voted down a bubble? Kinda wack since I haven't said anything to deserve that.

RockmanII75368d ago

I think terrorists who kill would be worse, but I agree that these people need to get arrested sooner rather than later.

Biggest5368d ago

Terrorists aren't just those who kill. The hackers in this case are terrorists. Luckily for the world, they are the lame kind that just bother people for a little. They're the Carrot Top of terrorists.

Theonetheonly5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

That word is the boogeyman. I don't live in fear of the boogeyman.

@grzajabarkus
you just called a group of people who are annoying the t word.

they have not taken any lives and that is an insult to anyone affected by 9 11.

that is probably why you lost a bubble.

you too @biggest

rockleex5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

No one has to kill anyone in order to be a terrorist.

To terrorize = to put fear into someone. Terrorists put fear into a GROUP of people or organization.

The worsts terrorists use death to create fear. But there are MANY other ways to terrorize people.

Theonetheonly5368d ago

PSN being down makes you scared?

either way terrorists are people who scare you Using whatever fear they can incite. I have never had a terrorist so much as stub my toe. in fact the only proof of terrorists i have ever seen is that day in September 10 years ago. I got the day off of school.

the better definition for these hackers is Criminals. Not F&^$%*g terrorists.

criminals are subject to the law. Terrorists are, according to the patriot act subject to no law and are people who exist in a Muslim regime who believes that Americans need to die in order to fulfill their mission on earth.

unless you believe in that whole "home grown terror thing where terrorists are only people who believe in free speech and the right to bear arms, and or question authority."

n4gisatroll5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

Reed:

What??????? Your seriously going to talk about the patriot act saying the only thing a terrorist is, is a Muslim??? Your insane for saying that. And tell me honestly that no one is scared about the info these hackers have released. Because if 1 person is afraid, then they are by definition, terrorists. And stop bringing up 9/11 because your misinformed about that as well.

WAR_MACHINE775367d ago (Edited 5367d ago )

@reedbananaboat Really, dude? Really? I guess you get the most racist comment of the day award! Muslim =/= terrorist. FYI... yes, these hackers are very much cyber terrorists.

Theonetheonly5367d ago

Nah people make misinformed statements on here all day.

:)

I just have an issue with that word being thrown around so lightly, given the fact that you can be jailed without due process of law indefinitely for being viewed as one.

Definitely not racist. :)

I actually study this, just thought it would be too much to digest if I were to actually try to type something too lengthy and get chastised for trying to back it up with too many big words. :)

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dark-hollow5368d ago

"Btw what's up with getting voted down a bubble? Kinda wack since I haven't said anything to deserve that"

maybe some terrorist fanboy disagreed with you :D

n4gisatroll5368d ago

When you die your done, but being alive and having your identity stolen you suffer for many years. That's why I said that. Maybe I took my comment a bit too far.

Parapraxis5368d ago

Good & honest reflection, and yes you are probably right in both regards.

metsgaming5368d ago

when you tell the truth on this site you seem to get a bubble down. Your right they are terrorists and should go to prison. Any one doing this to any company and its customers should go to jail for a very long time.

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n4gisatroll5368d ago

Ya, a lot of disagrees are coming out of this topic when they speak bad about these hackers. I didn't know this was news 4 hackers.

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rabidpancakeburglar5368d ago

Hasn't sony already taken down the published stolen data?

ReBurn5367d ago

Nothing is every truly gone from the internet.

dark-hollow5368d ago

all that fuzz in the beginning for not being able to run linux on the ps3????
i understand that removing one of the features of the console you own sucks but going this far for this?

kinda pathetic.

TKCMuzzer5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

These hackers are just using that as a reason now, they are just doing it to annoy Sony and everyone else.
They have no decent agenda because they are hiding behind "Anonymous" which is saying "we are anonymous and we believe in what's right, just not enough to let people know who we really are because we know deep down we are breaking the law"
One thing about people who think they are clever when it comes to avoiding the law is they will always slip up. At some point one of them won't be able to keep it to him/herself and will let it slip. I mean what's the point of proving you are good at something if no one knows it's you.
Also, lets face it, when they get caught they are going to have everything thrown at them, then we will see if they thought it was such a good cause.

a_squirrel5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

I agree with above. They use excuses.
I disagreee with you though...

It's really pathetic.... and redundant.

chriski3335368d ago

Holy crap man this insane when the hell is ssony gonna get there crap in order I've been sitting and waiting like there one else we need answers now and why the hell r ppl hacking the network! !!!

fluffydelusions5368d ago (Edited 5368d ago )

The data was already stolen weeks ago. Nothing they could do about it at this point.

orange-skittle5368d ago

Go to XBL instead. What do you expect if you pay nothing? Sony doesnt owe any of you anything. they can stay offline for 3 weeks and dont owe you shit. So STOP complaining.

arjman5367d ago (Edited 5367d ago )

Pretty sure they owe us the cost of the PS3?
Or is that suddenly forgotten in your argument.

orange-skittle5367d ago (Edited 5367d ago )

Owe you what? Dummy please, Sony doesn't owe you a thing. You didn't pay for the servers they provided, so what should you get for free...nothing? did you pay for maintenance, did you pay for apps, did you pay for updates, did you pay for add-ons...no...not a dime, so why should they reward you with perks that you never gave back to the company? the only people that should be reimbursed is the PSN+ subscribers. You get nothing you freeloader. You bought a gaming console, the wifi modem was included as promised, but no one said that internet access was part of the deal. It doesnt state that anywhere. They just did that for you because its always been free, but then they noticed that it was expensive to maintain, so they developed PSN+ to recoup some money. Guess how much this breach is costing them....who's gonna pay now?

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RAM Price Increases Could See Next-Generation Console Releases Delayed

Insider Gaming has learned that the ongoing price increases in RAM due to the rise in AI could delay the next generation of console releases.

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slate9117d ago

What is even the incentive of upgrading to the next-gen after this console generation we've had? Graphics are plateauing, prices at an all time high, studios skipping entire generations or simply releasing just one game for it...
Its a mess

Jin_Sakai17d ago

Been gaming all my life. This is the worst generation ever.

jznrpg17d ago

How do you gauge each generation? There has been a lot of really good games this gen. I only care about the games. First party hasn’t been the best but the generation isn’t over yet

DarXyde17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

jznrpg,

Thing is, every generation before this one has had something that defined console identity. Very little beyond bigger/more detailed games and performance modes are really there.

I feel the last generation that cared very much was gen 7; Capcom's darkest era, but I have to give them props for being really experimental at the time. We saw plenty of new games that still tried to do something new. Outside of Metaphor and Clair Obscur, this gen has been pretty forgettable if you ask me. I'm sure a lot of it is the corporatization of the industry and the creative talent has to keep making sequels and spiritual successors because the cost of development is out of control. But even then, plenty of these experiences are experiences we've had already. And the thing is. Switch 2 and PSVR2 could really be doing incredible things, but it's just not there. Xbox I just don't see the value or point anymore but that's just me.

anast17d ago

Why has is been the worst? I've been gaming all my life and this gen. has been one of the best.

Vits17d ago

Not to mention that just like this generation, the next one will also be shared between the current and next gen console at least for a couple of years. So the few titles that it will had, just like this one, will run on the console you already have.

franwex16d ago

We will be getting games on PS4, PS5, and PS6, haha.

Extermin8or3_16d ago

I think people have to remember the pandemic at start of this gen and how it effected game development. This next gen we will see the PS4 etc support dropped and truly see the full utilisation of SSD's improvements to ray and path tracing and the impact of AI upscaling etc will be where the biggest improvements will come from.

isarai_lee16d ago

My sentiments exactly, next gen has got to prove it's worth before i buy into it this time. This has been the weakest generation in my 30yrs of gaming. From the drawn out cross gen garbage, to so many games getting stuck in development hell or canceled, to the ABSURD levels of trend chasing to the point of self destruction, this gen just wasn't worth it

thorstein16d ago

I'm pretty sure I've already read a story that said Playstation is only halfway through this console's generation and that PS6 is a way off.

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darthv7217d ago

Im good with next gen being pushed back to 27/28. It feels like this gen has only just begun.

Melankolis17d ago

Covid-19 held back everything at least 2 years worth. Although many people disliked, i think only UE5 can generally distinguish this gen from the previous one.

DarXyde16d ago

UE5 is definitely impressive, but I would also give the nod to the current version of Decima, at least the way it looks for Death Stranding 2.

CornholioX17d ago

That's normal how you think. Time goes faster when you're older and i bought my PS5 since day 1 release and now it's 5 years old. I don't mind a year delay to release PS6 in holiday 2028.

DoubleYourDose16d ago

Tomorrow isn't promised to any of us.

Eonjay16d ago

I was under the impression that next gen wasn't coming till 2027.z u9gsq

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victorMaje17d ago

Regardless of RAM price increases, I strongly believe there’s still a lot of potential left for the current gen. I’d be fine with at least 3 more years.

jznrpg17d ago

Whenever it comes out is fine with me. I still have backlog for the next year at least

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Bad Robot Games Teams With Sony

This is interesting and unexpected news as Sony and Bad Robot Games are partnering.

-Foxtrot43d ago

Was excited until I saw “an unannounced four-player, cooperative shooter”

Christopher43d ago

It's from the same guy who made L4D. Wouldn't expect anything otherwise.

-Foxtrot43d ago

I just thought since Back 4 Blood didn’t set the world on fire and died pretty quickly support wise he might have done something a little different.

StoneTitan42d ago

awesome, cooperative games are great

Scissorman42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

@Foxtrot The creator of L4D, Mike Booth, didn't have anything to do with Back for Blood, and that's probably why it didn't set the world on fire. This new project just might be the successor we've been waiting for.

JEECE42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Gosh it would be so nice to have a true successor to L4D 2. Back 4 Blood introduced nearly every annoying, unnecessary aspect of multiplayer game design from the last ten-ish years, while simultaneously making the gameplay and world less interesting than L4D. Ironically I think it didn't actually have MTs, despite feeling like it was designed to sell them.

Sadly, I just can't see a true successor coming out now. I'd happily be wrong, but I bet this will have a hub world, multiple progression systems, multiple currency systems, skins, heros/operators/specialists, and battle passes, and the speed of the game will be toned down from L4D2, just like B4B was.

Whitey2k42d ago

I shall keep an eye on this. Expecially if Mike booth is involved Left for dead 1 & 2 was amazing on pc.

Should be left for dead 3

More enemies and boss battles
More maps and missions
Also bring back like the witch and tank and other nasty top dogs

JEECE42d ago

The "PC" feel is one of the key reasons B4B doesn't match up to L4D. L4D is clearly designed for mouse and keyboard, and the speed of the game reflects that (this is why it never felt quite right on 360 and the devs had to add in that "quick turn" feature to compensate). Meanwhile B4B is slowed down to better suit playing with controllers. Unfortunately this game will likely be the same, given the PS5 version.

And yes you are right the specials were so lame in B4B compared to L4D.

Whitey2k40d ago

That's because the 360 didnt support mouse and keyboard. Now we're in that era ps5 or ps6 and magnus should easily support mouse and keyboard to play with pc players

JEECE38d ago

@Whitey2k

Technically consoles support m/k now, but practically speaking most console users still just play with a controller, so this game is likely to be designed primarily with controller players in mind. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I doubt I will be.

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Sony: PS5 Is “Only in the Middle of Its Journey;” Multiplatform Helldivers 2 Doing “Extremely Well”

During Sony’s quarterly financial conference call CFO Lin Tao provided relevant information on the performance of the PlayStation business.

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Pedantic9166d ago

Kinda figured the lifecycle for this gen and for Sony in particular will be longer, stronger hardware with better graphical enhancements is not going to show immediate jump in quality for games anymore like in the 90's, graphics have since plateaued and what they should be pushing for is art design, physics handling and locking down framerates to 60fps as the absolute minimum required. Sony will always have their 1st party with their heavy hitters but i would also personally want to see them invest more into AA, bring in younger talents, incorporate more experimental ideas to game design and prototyping like the early days with PS and PS2, maybe instead of investing 200-300+ million in bombastic cinematic experiences, invest atleast half of that into creating new teams for other genres you're currently lacking in to diversify your portfolio such as platfomers, jrpgs, horror, rythm, arcade racer, FPS, hell, maybe even a strategy game or two.

thorstein66d ago

What I've learned from this generation is that smaller studios are where I'm finding the best games.

The big boys just aren't cutting it.

This is great news for PS owners.

But what's the advantage to new hardware anymore? It's like cell phones. There's noting new or innovative. All the future tech isn't arriving any time soon: quantum computers and internet.

Profchaos66d ago

What I've learnt from this gen is to go retro until you get those big games like GTA Vi

Lightning7766d ago

People seem to complain whenever Sony does something different. If it's not the cinematic story driven games then most don't seem to care.

I forgot what game it was but We remember when Shawn Layden said some game didn't sell all that well but it was ok because they wanted to take chances with new types of games. That was a different times different generation now. What applies then certainly doesn't apply now.

PhillyDonJawn66d ago

Not necessarily. Ps5 could still be supported for years after ps6 release. I still would expect ps6 around 2027

MetroidFREAK2166d ago

As long as proper physical games keep coming out for PS5, I'll keep supporting it

Eonjay65d ago

At this point, going back and seeing just how incredible and soawling the PS4 library is, its nice to see that the PS5 will wind up just as good with continued physical support into the next decade and the full PS4 physical catalog as well.

MetroidFREAK2164d ago

I agree. I'm still picking up PS4 games I missed back in the day as well.

MIDGETonSTILTS1766d ago

New hardware is meant to expand possibilities for developers when their ambitions are constrained.

Looking at Death Stranding 2 and Yotei, and anticipating GTA6 and Wolverine will also blow away graphics expectations, I don’t think devs are constrained by the ps5 yet.

The longer they wait to release the ps6, the stronger it will be. People can wait. Just let Kojima finish Physint as a ps6 launch title. That should take at least another 4 years. That would be the lifecycle at 9 years, which would be the longest lifecycle yet, but not by much.

Eonjay65d ago

So I totally see what you are saying but I suspect that one of the effects of introducing stronger hardware is the older generations are then maxed by necessity.

But thats just my opinion. The real reason why Sony won't wait to release a next Gen console is because they are seeking to directly influence the next Gen of graphics hardware on an industry wide scale.. To them, they are making developers lives easier if they are developing for hardware that ubiquitous support features across platforms including PC.

This would literally lift everyone up at the same time. And for this reason the Next Playstation will debut as part of UDNAs debut. PS5 will continue to be optimized and supported for another 5 at least.

MIDGETonSTILTS1763d ago

If I’m following you, you are saying introducing a ps6 would be a way to immediately hit the PS5’s hardware ceiling. That would make sense, but I hope they force Xbox to release their console first, and they then counter with a slightly stronger ps6 a year later. I don’t expect Xbox to launch with a strong initial exclusives roster that would necessitate Sony being first to market.

Dexterio66d ago

Sony: PS5 Is “Only in the Middle of Its Journey;”
Nice to know. I wouldn't worry about PS6 for another 5-6 years, I guess.

monkey60266d ago

I wouldnt count on that. A console life cycle doesn't end with the announcement and release of a new gen.
We'll see a PS6 announcement in 2027 and release in 2028. I could bet on it

Eonjay65d ago

It could come out in 2027 and thats fine. It is quite common for people to upgrade their TV, phone or PC within that time period. As long as it is backwards compatible it makes total sense to upgrade and its justified on its merit alone. There is no reason why this can apply to consoles too.

jznrpg66d ago

I doubt it will be that long until PS6. My guess is around 2028 but who knows. Could be as early as holiday 27’ and as late as 29 but I can’t see it being any farther than that. I somewhat doubt as late as 29. Half way through PS5 life can also mean crossgen titles for a year or 2 into PS6

Lightning7766d ago

The rumor is 2027. Cerny said it's only a few years away. Possibly of 2028 but it definitely won't be 5, 6 years away.

isarai66d ago

With this statement, while Mark Cerby us teasing the basis of the next gen tech, it sounds like we're probably going to have another dragged out cross gen overlap 😒 ugh. I miss the days when launch ganes marked the starting line of new beginnings, games built from the ground up to take full advantage of whats new and exciting, instead of just upresed/remastered last gen games

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