With no end in sight to this high-def battle, Sony and Toshiba prepare to sabotage yet another holiday buying season.
A year and a half ago PCMag's Lance Ulanoff declared Blu-ray a doomed technology. It's still around. Of course, so is HD DVD. The war of wills between Sony (Blu-ray) and Toshiba (HD DVD) has, if anything, deepened. And much to my chagrin, both formats are gaining traction in the marketplace.
This high-def battle will end badly.
Omar writes: "With the Horizon Festival coming to breathtaking Japan, you’ll need the essential gear to prove you’ve got what it takes to become a Horizon Legend as you cruise, drift and explore an open world full of spectacular driving experiences. That’s why we’re happy to announce the newest Limited Edition Xbox Wireless Controller and Wireless Headset collection, featuring inspired designs from Forza Horizon 6. The bright cyan and lime colorways celebrate the Horizon Festival’s recognition of iconic cars and hit music, with special features that are sure to impress any collector."
You can get Hall effect controllers slightly cheaper, but you'd struggle to find as feature-rich a package without some heavy, heavy sales.
Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.
I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.
It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good
In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.
Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether
If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.
And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?
You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.
In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.
Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet
Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet
Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install
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The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.
Not at all the same but nice try
At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.
It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.
All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"
I think we all know how that ended up.
I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.
DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.
Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!
But this war is over. BD is kicking ass right now.
I think having the two formats are actually harming each other. I know a lot of people are holding off until there is one 'clear' winner as they don't want to invest in something which could be useless a year later. I believe there is only a fraction of the people buying HD-DVD/Blu-Ray movies compared to if there was just one certain format. I'm sure it'd help get more movies in HD too with some studio's having to invest in making two products and some choosing not to at all(anyone wondering when LOTR is coming to HD?).
Then you have the matter of all the PS3 owners who have a blu-ray player built in to their system, and of course the Xbox users who might have purchased the HD-DVD add-on. All these people will be hoping their 'side' wins so that their system wont become 'out of date' in any way. Although, the PS3 will still continue to exist as game studio's will always use the space Blu-ray offers. Xbox users with their add-on will end up having to buy as many HD-DVD's are left to make any use out of it.
It's a mess and I wouldn't be surprised if this continues for a long long time and they both stick around. The two companies are too big to let things lye and for that reason I can't see their ever being a 'clear' winner.
Yawn...
The only people who are still pretending there is any sort of 'format war' are hardcore Microsoft fans.
BluRay won. Get over it.
The fact that Toshiba is still selling a tiny number of standalone players for the dead HD-DVD format is nothing but a irrelevant sideshow.
When Toshiba and Microsoft have to pay 150 million dollars to a couple of studios just to keep their new movies off of BluRay discs it should be perfectly clear just how dead HD-DVD is.
Whilst I believe blu ray may well be winning the war, the guy in this article has a vlaid point: the format war is ultimately delaying HD format adoption by the general consumer.
Most impartial observers would surely bet on blu-ray, it having more heavy weight backers and the PS3 effect, now that PS3's will start to shift in increasing numbers.
Certainly - I'm one who hopes for its quick dominance! I haven't bought the add on for my 360, so I play HD on bluray on the PS3! :) lol
Both sides look pretty desperate at this stage of the war , free movies, buy one get one free , price drops every other month , it's all good for the HD consumer(if your chosen format wins) . The HD-dvd camp should throw in the towel imo though.