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Is this console generation already coming to an end?

The recent news of a new Nintendo system that is more powerful than the PS3 and 360 is an industry changer, but not in a good way.

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fluffydelusions5519d ago

All leaks point to a late 2012 release which is still a LONG ways off plus the leaked specs put it on par with the 360 (maybe a tad better) so I doubt MS/Sony will rush to get a new console out.

Lindsey5519d ago

I'm not so sure. The early word is that it will be more powerful than either system. The hardcore crowd isn't loyal to just 360 and PS3. If Nintendo releases a new system with better graphics and the 3rd party developer to support it, then Sony and Mircosoft will be forced to adapt or be considered inferior and when have those two company's ever been one to be technologically inferior?

tdogchristy905519d ago

Not to mention that by name alone, reguardless of tech, people will see the ps3 and 360 inferior. It may be no powerful than the 360/ps3 but because it's the "next next-gen" people will see everything else as "outdated" even though that may be incorrect. I too worry it may push ms and sony to release early, I'm enjoying my consoles and am not ready for a jump. Not to mention forcing them to jump may hurt hardware/relability.

fallingdove5519d ago (Edited 5519d ago )

I doubt that Microsoft or Sony will be worried by a more powerful Nintendo console. With the multi-platform business model, the new Nintendo console is going to only get 360/PS3 ports. 3rd Party developers haven't liked working with Nintendo for years.

I really don't think Nintendo is going to see the success they saw with the Wii. With this new console, they are really just finally joining current the HD gen and gamers already have established friend lists and game librarys - I don't see the incentive to switch over to Nintendo for a couple years to use a poor online infrastructure, only to have to switch again when the Sony and Microsoft systems arrive.

50Terabytespersec5519d ago

NO No No new consoles yet. please!!!
Id rather have a new console in 3 years.

AND If so give Us 1 120GB SSD drive
(500MB persec ReaWrite)(prices should fall by then
2GB VRAM GDDR 6/7
1GB System RAM
HDMI 1.4 and 4k TV ready!
and 64 SPU' Cell
24X Bluray drive (100MB persec)
Sell it for 249.00
Done!!! Deal!
This is Bliss !!!!!!
Nintendo, Sega, Apple, Sony, Microsoft,
Bring it !!!

eagle215519d ago

what I can't understand is how some of you couldn't see this coming. Every 5 years Nintendo announces/brings out a new console. Sony released PS3 6 years after ps2 regardless of 10 year plan. MS...lol...this is already the longest the've ever gone.

theonlylolking5519d ago

The 10 year plan is a plan to keep supporting the console.

Godmars2905519d ago (Edited 5519d ago )

Am I the only one who feels like this gen never really started? That it was nothing more then a semi-stagnant pause for what will hopefully be a more substantive console cycle. One genuinely focused on gaming, not just only online graphics and FPS.

Blackcanary5519d ago

I think ur right i don't think we have truly seen what this Gen has to offer yet.

I do want Nintendo to bring out a real next gen console but at the same time i'm not ready to have to say good bye to the PS3 and cash out on a new console that could be very expansive not yet anyway.

If it happened in 2015 i would be fine by that. But not anytime sooner imho.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi5519d ago

Feels like it. With all the ps4 rumors and DICE's ramblings it's hard not to feel that the new generation would start soon. But it still feels too soon. For goodness sakes FFv13 still hasnt released and it was announced before ps3 even launched. I expect Sony MS and (especially) Nintendo might reveal something new early next year. E3 is way too soon.

stephmhishot5519d ago (Edited 5519d ago )

It all depends on if Nintendo can strike gold again, by introducing something new to the masses. The Wii dominated sales wise this generation because of the motion gaming aspect, if the Wii2 is just better graphics with the Wii+ controller, I don't think it will force Sony or MS to react. Nintendo's target audience now is almost strictly the casual gamer, and they already have a Wii that they can waggle with. Will better graphics really get them to buy a new system?

As for the "hardcore", many were already burnt on the Wii's paltry third party offerings and weak online play. Unless Nintendo can improve upon those two aspects, I think most gamers will be happy waiting for the next gen systems from Sony and MS.

Having better graphics right now is probably more of a curse than a blessing anyway. All you hear is developers talking about how expensive it is to make games on the PS3 and 360 and how long it takes. Do you really think they want to tackle new tech right now?

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot27d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle27d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7726d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay27d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn228d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn227d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown28d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay27d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay27d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac27d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger28d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300028d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde28d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde27d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer35d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde33d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy34d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12533d ago (Edited 33d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.