jus admit it the ps3 is more powerful than the 360

how is framerate a problem? looks like my eyes are not as tuned as all of yours. havent had problems with the ps3 in that region. maybe there are some but i cant really see them =(.... im so last gen right ? hihi

stfu wimpdaddy and go ply gaylo 3

well this is really bad, i changed it right after i read it, someone should write a mail to Sony, that they should better work on a new firmware, that doesn't interfere with games that much...

Lay off the roids homo.. Making your brain small.. The 360 is the most unreliable system out there.. Its has what a 35% failure rate.. And i know because mine use to break on me all the time..

Back on subject.. I dont have any framerate issues that i notice or bother me too much.. None in madden 08 or anything like that.. People like to make big deals about nada.. So many people say halo 3 has framerate issues but do you actually notice it or care???? No i dont

RFOM doesnt have ANY lag, R6 has no lag (looks horrible though), most Ps3 games run a lot smoother then Ps3 games.

Bioshock for example would need this. Gears even stutters.

Ps3 games run pretty solidly.

Believe me, I'd be the 1st to come out and say it if I did. My ps3 games ar esurprisingly steady. All of them. Even Skate. As a matter of fact, I'm more impressed with how stable everything runs and how smooth they are this gen. I only own and will own the ps3, though. I say this cause it's the only system worth its salt. Long liove the Blu-ray and Ps3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Resistance.
Haze
Lair
Uncharted
Ratchet & Clank
Motorstorm
Ninja Gaiden
Heavenly Sword
Oblivion
THe Darkness
All 2k developed sports games.

Have no framerate issues.

All EA games however, Do.

Most of these titles are HD as well. Unlike any game ever made for the 360.

Stop self owning yourself bots.

I'm on my 4th 360, so...

?

can you please repair my 360? It keeps scratching my disk.. it makes really loud noises.. It keeps freezing up on me every time i try to play a game.. Please help.. lol freaking homo..

...is that we even have framerate issues. I was really hoping they were going to be a thing of the past. Furthermore, it annoys me how console gaming has become more PC like. That is, to get the best out of your console you have to buy a true 1080p display to see the games in full-res.

Obviously thats a problem inherent with HD gaming as there are so many standards of HD displays, e.g. 720p, 1080i, 1080p. Even then you have to check to see what the native resolution of the HDTV is.

@Wil4hire: F**k I hate it when fanboys reply. I wish you and the rest of your type would do me and all the other real gamers a favor and just shut your mouth.

okay..LOL

the ps3 wasnt built for developers...developers hate it,its a freakin headache,its designed by stubborn people....seriously ps3 games dont run smooth,they never well...also 640p is high def,its still 1180/640,last i checked thats an amazing resolution....if you played halo3,youd know how great lookin and smooth the game is...also gears of war looks,far,far better than ratchet...on a side note,when does the delayed orange box come out for the ps3? im playing half life2 ep. 2 on my 360 and its freakin looks amazing as all hell...it runs like butter too...ill bet any of you that the ps3 version is going to be choppy as hell...wake up you dumbasses and buy a 360 already, dont wait till mass effect comes out...

Can't wait until the Beta stage is over, that will be the time that I start kicking some ass.

lollololoololoollolollool

I haven't gotten any multi-platform titles, though Guitar Hero 3 is coming up. I don't really believe this, especially since even the R&C Demo, which obviously pushes the system a lot harder than EA's titles, doesn't have framerate issues, even with my upscalers for BD/DVD/PS1/PS2 turned on.

have any bubbl3s?

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Don't think I'll be doing any of the nonsense that the article eluded to - my games play just to my liking "as is" on my PS3's.

Next.....

put some effort into it,and the results are 1080p at 60 fps.create the right engine,optimize your code,know what you are doing.eventually all the ps3 games will hit max resolution and speed.

ps3 does exactly what sony said it can do from E3 2005.it just takes time and effort.but some devs don't have the time and resources.and what you get is bad frames.but the resolution is still high.but sony is showing the way early in the game.

heavenly sword achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

f1 achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

lair achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

GT5 achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

uncharted achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

ratchet achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

motorstorm achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

warhawk achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

killzone achieves what the target suggests
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

all these "SONY" games are delivering what sony said the system can do.and it's only the first year.only fanboys say otherwise.look up any previous video of these games and they play like the target video suggests they will play like and look like.with great resolution and framerates.

and to those fanboys that say otherwise,all that i showed above look like "GAMES" to me.

mag lev.......................

I think your seriously deluding yourself.

640p is not hd. Yes it higher then sd but thats all.

Gears of war stutters. UT3 on ps3 doesn't, and its a better looking game.

R&C Does not stutter, but has alot going on.
Sega rally revo does not stutter and looks sweet.

On the subject of the ps3 not being built for gaming. It actually very similar to the 360. Minus the spu's of course.

But the spu's are a source of great power.

I think the 360's games do run and look sweet. I wasn't overly impressed with halo3. And i'm not the only one.

But i've got to say this, the most advanced game coming out is uncharted drakes fortune. Wipes the floor with anything out or due out in quite a few months and that includes call of duty 4.

kaz was right, ps3 is a computer, cuz only computers are required to optimize their systems to enjoy better fps. LOL

Work! and infact for a console like that game Gears of war became
Gears of War+glitches of war=Lames of war! and oh your so called Great game Halo 3 is running on 640p and you morons think its still a great game and think its better that way what a joke! and you guys still give it a ten!.

i dont have any framerate problems on my PS3, so why would you need to do this?

Skate runs smooth as butter after these fixes.

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I think this is by far the most disturbing sentence on the thread. Very, very disturbing indeed.

the only one that looks like a troll,whiner,complainer,poser, lier,etc.....

IS YOU!

you said that your girlfriend/fiance/whatever bought you the ps3.

then you said you and her went in on it together in buying ps3.

then you supposedly sold it for halo3 and a 360.

now...........either you're lying scum for saying you have a ps3 when you cleary don't have one.because no one who supposedly acts like he loves playing games as a hobby acts like you.

or you're a low life scum who sells gifts his girlfriend gets for him.no "real man" would sell gifts his girl gets for him.

so are you a lying scum or low life scum?

see,we fans of sony products are just here celebrating the fact that ps3 is delivering on sony's gameplay promise.(see videos above).no one is talking about 360 or cares about 360 in this thread.just framerates.

i would bet that these three games will deliver on sony's promise of good resolutions,framerates and gameplay just like above:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

against old video of white knight story
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

amazing how sony's games are looking like the target videos seen earlier.

mag lev........................... ....

tried it didn't work

Here I am thinking that it's PS3tards constantely posting in 360 articles just to be lying d!ckheads.. But you guys are just as guilty and TheMART you started this whole thing.. Then as usual it digress's into PS3 people making up sh!t and using that lame stupid old RROD crap(never had a problem) and all their NO games run at 720p which is also a bold face lie.. The only thing missing from this thread is someone listing PS3 games.. oh wait.. already was TWICE! Laaamme!

This has nothing to do with the 360 so the word MS and 360 shouldn't even be mentioned in these comments.

subtract bubbles from ppl like the Mart and bladestar and even pimpdaddy.

Then when u look at the comments u limit what u see 2 ppl with over one bubble. We are almost there on pimpdaddy! This dude asked me to help him get bubbles b4! What a loser

I havnt had to read anything nasim has ever said because he has only one bubble!

framerate issues are the issue of the dev.(EA?) anyone who believes this is an idiot. how did this get approved.

"Improve your PS3 framerates"

never thought id seen them four words on such powerful console....

haha..somebody was lied to.

PLAY R3TARD3D, I had a chuckle.

Wonder what HOME and other upgrades/updates that Sony will have to release to keep up with the 360 will do to the PS3's processing power. Sure PS3 can handle most *simple* games at a high FPS rate but most of its more complex games are downgraded. Multi platform ports have to be held back to allow PS3 to match the 360 version or often needs much more time to develope.

Imagine what those same games would be like if the 360 had a handi capp and devs worked on the 360 version longer. People may say PS3 is more powerful but its memory use and the resourses being used up just to match the 360's functions and features will show the PS3's true capabilities soon. ATI has said PS3 will bottle neck in the future and the 256/ram "available for games" is aleady been mention to be a problem.

Sorry had to do it!, too many people in the 360 threads bashing when no one has provoked anybody.

and that's why Martijn doesn't lose any bubbles.

Anyways on topic:
I haven't had any framerate issues.

UP Up DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT SQUARE X. that might help aswell

HAHA Whats next for this beautiful wounded beast

well. i'm a ps3 fan but i'll have to admit that Skate has some framerate issues if you play the career mode with all the traffic going on over HDMI on 720p.

after these fixes my framerate was stable and i had no drops in the career mode with all the traffic going on.

you can perform tricks 100% smooth now, trust me.

sadly it only takes effect if you play over HDMI :-(

i was really pissed about the framerate drops in Skate cause i skated 15 years and all i ever wanted is a game like this.

now after these fixes i can play the game like i want to - thank you SafeRat for posting this.

game on.

I think a firmware fix to disable upscalers when playing PS3 games would allow these issues to be a thing of the past and maybe reviewers won't have problems. I was reading this and figured it makes a lot of sense, why have PS2 and DVD upscalers and Media Servers active for Blu-ray or PS3 games?

I've hardly, if ever, have a frame rate drop, but it would be nice to have these disabled by default anyway for devs who do encounter this.

Wow how pathetic.

PLAY B3YOND......after you turn off 3V3RYTHING!

Wow how pathetic.

JUMP IN...RROD JUMP IN...RROD JUMP IN...RROD JUMP IN...SCRATCH

JUMP IN...640p JUMP IN...JAG JUMP IN...LAG JUMP IN...8on8.....

signed,
Jack Flash

This was fun watching all the oldies realign for a mini battle. If only it meant something...

Do you guys hope to have Sony or Microsoft send you a nice check for protecting their products? They are big enough to protect themselves. Both consoles have advantages and disadvantages, but... why should YOU guys give a damn about it? You get what you want from it, you win. You bash the other console, you don't win a single thing, in fact... you lose :

- Credibility
- Dignity
- Time

What's the point, really? Is that because both consoles have such few good games that you had time to go through them and that the only thing left to do is talk sh*t about the product you didn't buy? If it's not the case, if both consoles are worth your time... why don't you spend it playing them instead of bashing them?

The console you choose should only be a matter of tastes, not "which console has the biggest baddest hardware", which one has "60fps/1080p/Time Traveling Devices/Milkshake Machine/Hi-Def Porn/Cure for Cancer/BiggestStudios/RedRings OfDeath/GreasyDiarhea/BestPubl icRelations". If you don't have enough money to buy two consoles, you don't have to try so hard to convince yourself that the other console has so many flaws that you don't actually need it and that it is just not good at all, just make your choices according to your tastes : there are sacrifices to be made... even in the entertainment business. You don't get a single freaking penny or not even an ounce of respect (you should've noticed by now, right?) in bashing the other console.

Both Consoles have their share of Triple-A titles, no matter on what they are running, just accept it.

I don't have anything against those making bets on the industry, I'm guilty here. But damn it... I'm not an Xbox guy and I can't deny that both Bioshock, Gears of War and Portal made me crap myself just because of the sheer pressure of their quality. I can tell you too that I'll get a PS3 in April just in time for MGS4 : I got the game I wanted, I won the console war my way, end of the line.

This is not even for fun... console zealots, not matter which side they are on, are nothing but insatisfied morons that just can't get over the fact that their choices aren't everybody's. You're games aren't better than someone else's, you like them better : that's the difference.

Are you going to teabag my Hotdog just because you prefer Hamburgers? Same industry, different tastes.

Jump Beyond... for Christ's Sake.

Here is the steps to optimize your ps3's power withought having to do all of these things:

Step1: Take out the EA game inside of your console
Step2: Put in a different game made by a respectable company
Step3: Enjoy

If the framerate issues ever happen again, plz start at step one.

I'm a bit skeptical about these tips...

i remember hearing framerate drops and tears for HS a few weeks b4 it was released. I didnt see it

guess im blind

and yea

i wont be needing these tips

Only a moron would post such BS. How to fix framerate issues, what a douche bag. He should fix his stupidity.

I know something, I know how to fix dumb idiots, Have them JUMP down
Niagara Falls.

I love PS3DO fanboys who keep trying to make a case of how great their system is. Too bad no buddy else thinks it's great. How are those sales coming along by the way. So go ahead and keep telling the mirror how great your system is. Can someone help me out here with a simple math problem....360 sells ~450K units this month, PS3 sells ~100K this month so who is doing better...Hmm.... Let me guess next year will be better for the PS3. Just be happy if Sony get's to next year. Sony, your games suck (How are Heavenly Sword and Lair selling these days..), your system sucks (~100K a month ouch!), and you are losing so much money on each console sell.(Two price drops so far and an additional SKU thats not backwards compatible) Keep up the good work SONY!

the only framerate issues i have experienced on the ps3 was in lair when you are on the ground killing troops, but that was about it.

get some fresh air or something?

the guys that say these fixes don't work are fools.

they work perfect. every single game runs smooth now. i played the Stuntman Ignition demo and it was horrible before but now it runs totally fine.

so please, stop saying it won't work because it works, at least for me a 100%.

p.s. it only works if you play over HDMI

It's really too bad that the PS3 has to be tweaked to get better frame rates. The whole reason I bought a console because all I had to do was pop in a game and play and not worry about it. If I want to tweak something for better frame rates I might as well stick to my PC.

Once again bro.. Lay off the roids man... I think bill gates bangs your mom or he must be banging you dude.. You need to chill out..

Im glad sony put the blu ray in the ps3.. I love it so much i hate watching anything in stantard def.. I love blu ray and high def.. I also thought the $600 price tag was a bargin. Thats cheap as hell homo for everything your getting.. people pay 600 bucks for a freaking phone.. If you want to complain, complain about paying fee's to play games online or having to buy batteries for your damn controller every week. Or when your 360 breaks down, having to return it for a new one every other month..

Im not poor like you I actually work and make a living.. 600 bucks is expensive for little kids like you.. You need to stop taking steroids all day and jerking off to bill gates and get yo self a job fool.

Warhawk beats any game in online for consoles right now... By the way they fixed the stats about a month ago.. This game has no lag what so all.. And i never get disconnected.. Once again get a job and stop spending all your money on steroids and bill gate pictures so you can upgrade from dial up to DSL..

Heavenly sword.. Beats hmmmmmmmmm i forgot 360 has no action adventure games like this.

You are seriously one of the dumbest person i have seen on this site.. Next to themart... Both of you probably never played the ps3 in your life.. Ps3 has its greatness and so does the 360.. But i think ps3 is the better system by far.

Hi, since I read your PS3 Skate review about bad framerates, please try my solution by changing some settings in XMB Settings Menu. It works for ALL games! Sinse I dont have time to pinpoint which setting is the real cause of bad frames, your TECH guys can find it out yourself, so when Im playing PS3 games I just disable most suspectable settings, probably most caused by settings: Media Server, DVD Upscaler, BD 1080p 24Hz output, Audio output HDMI, Screensaver, Notification messages.
I tried all games, but just a sample will be Skate or Genji, you will notice the smoothness, solid, responsive animations when using the correct settings.

I am using XMB fw 1.93, hdmi 720p, optical digital out 5.1 dts

XMB Settings Menu:
Game settings: PS/PS2 Upscaler=OFF, PS/PS2 Smoothing=OFF

BD/DVD Settings: Cinema Conversion=Video, DVD Upscaler=OFF, BD 1080p 24 Hz output=OFF, BD/DVD Audio output format= BITSTREAM

Music settings: Crossfade playback=OFF, Audio cd output=44.1/88/192KHz, Bitmapping=OFF

System settings: Notification messages=DO NOT DISPLAY

Display settings: Screensaver=OFF

Sound setting: Audio output=OPTICAL Digital out 5.1/dts or analog

Security settings: ALL OFF

Network settings: Media server connection=DISABLE (probably 1 of the main cause the problem, since it scans continu with WiFi)

Ok, you can post your results in an article on gamesspot, GAMEON

sell crap ps3 buy 360 = fix

sell crap ps3 buy 360 = fix

That's pretty bad that you have to disable all those features and change all those settings just to make the ps3 run better..... never had a single issue with my 360 and all my settings are on default.

"That's pretty bad that you have to disable all" = bla bla bla.

Oh, calm down now, ps3 is like a computer havent you ever disabled few things on your PC to make games run faster? Its not hard to do the same on a ps3, take it like a extra feature. I tried it out and it really works for ALL games.

usually, when Bladestar and TheMART start talking, all I hear is the sound of squittly sh*t coming out of a diseased ass.

I think Sony should set this settings as default in the next firmware update so all the xbots stop crying. For every with brain it's not a problem to change the settings, but it looks like it's too much for the xbots lol

everybody on this site minus a few "meus" winney ass fuvkers crying and bi7ching,, what the fuvk do yo gain by saying yours i better, fuvking GROW up
/end rant

fuvking bi7hces

Wow, good find. Hope Sony responds soon and releases a firmware that does it all and helps the framerate.
Great find.

Wow, when Xbots get desparate they get really sad. Clinging to anything they can like a toilet paper ball clinging to a hair on my arse.

To be honest I've never noticed a framerate issue with any of my games or demos. I haven't played everything but if this helps. hey good for it. Its just one more little thing Sony can iron out with an update since PSN is an ever improving entity not a pompous fat git, sitting smug on its throne, complacent in its alledged superiority. If this is a real issue I'm sure people are already looking into it.

You know what. I think we should all just join Xbox kings and SPAM THE FUK OUT OF IT. When people complain we'll say we're here because of Mart. Slightly off topic I know but its stories like this that get over 100 comments that make me think of sh*t like that. Oh and look who was first to comment today.

The ps3s framerate wont change when you have those things on. This is false information provided to mislead. Either delete this or clearify your mistake please. This definitly doesnt deserve the degrees it has.

As for mart im sorry to resort to this but you are just a tard with no brain. Everyone subtract bubbles from him so we never see him again.

ps3 fan guys should play own way and xbots fun guys should play they game own way don't disable any think just keep playing i'ts COOL!!!!

This DOES improve framerates, I noticed much more responsive experiences in the Genji demo, Fight Night Round 3 and in Heavenly Sword. I can't believe some of the ignorance in this comments section, that you would lie to YOURSELVES and live in complete denial. "DIS ARTICLE IS DA FAYK, DELEET IT SOZ I DON HAV TO READ IT PLZ." Newsflash kids: our precious PS3s are NOT perfect. They have proven time and time to again to have framerate issues, and this article merely suggests a method for overcoming this problem. But no, you kids don't want to know, you'd rather live in this bizarre fanboy fantasy world where your console is perfect and godly, with no qualms. It's like all these kiddies have their fingers in their ears. I have no problem admitting that the PS3 has problems, and if you keep your mouth shut, all that will do is allow the problems to continue unaddressed.

There is absolutely no improvement at all. who is buying this crap?

Is a fad and a joke, PS3 fanbabies need to get over it, the CPU is not even optimised for gaming, its primary purpose is for multi work loads not gaming.

Also the GPU is 1yr behind in technology and features of the 360 GPU and on top of that there is a problem with bottleneck on the memory XDR and DDR??? WTF??

try blinking quickly

Sniddles great argument mate, finally. some people are so stuborn about a console that when there is any small things come up they loose sleep over it. even though, there was a mistake being made by the devs they stilld defend it and as sixaxis so supidly mentioned they call it "extra features" but in reality its doing the opposite. "extra unfeatures or something". thats what people buy cosnoles for, not having to do sh*t and enjoy their game. instead of defending it as an owner show ur pSSd off as i am doing so they go around and change the options when u put a disk ina utomatically not manually

Im not going to bother doing this as I dont see any framerate problems on the PS3 games that I own.

Plus I dont think PS3 owners should have to do this. Performance should be top notch all the time.

turn off your ps3=120fps @1080P with 4D

Havent noticed framerate issues but how lame is this, why should this has to be done in the first place? Sony should update the console to make these changes so their off while playing a game if it improves the consoles framerate and the way it runs.

wanna play titles with better frame rate? turn off all that great stuff and play gimped looking games!

My favorite generation. So many incredible games at the perfect time in my life.

Some of the updates might be due to stability reasons. However, some might be for Blu-ray compatibility. Some people still use this for their physical media player.

Updating it to make it harder to log into every time

ps3 was and is still my favourite console ever.

sure the download was .. horrendously slow and installing things took forever, but damn.

listening to music, watching videos and looking at pics was so easy back then.

That generation is leaps and bound better than current generation in terms of games. We had so many new IPs.

Pssr2 for the PS3