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Xbox 360's Upcoming "Disc Format" Overhyped

"On March 29th, Major Nelson revealed Microsoft's upcoming beta to test out an all new "disc format" for the Xbox 360. Ever since the announcement, the internet has gone wild with numerous speculations and rumors. Today, Nick speaks on this topic and explain why this new "disc format" is being overhyped."

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Nick2120045510d ago

It is definitely not a bad thing to see Microsoft expand the limits of the disc space for the Xbox 360, but if 1gb is the actual increase, I personally do not see this being too substantial.

Istanbull5510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

Seriously, what is 1GB gonna do? I'm enjoying 50GB's of space on my blurays.

I'm glad Sony took the decision to add Bluray in the PS3 as far back as 2005!

Remember how the first Xboxes didn't even had HDMI?

CrazyOrange5510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

i didn't get what you mean by enjoying 50gb ?? whats enjoyable about it?

it doesn't really make difference to you but to the developers...

Wikkid6665510d ago

So the mighty PS3 is so great because of BluRay... ask any PC gamer if his rig has BluRay used for gaming.

Funny how the one big difference between the PS3 and the 360 is probably the biggest thing holding the PS3 back from sales.

For anyone that thinks BluRay is the future you are just kidding yourself.

ThanatosDMC5510d ago

You can fap to it, i guess? LOL! Imagine someone looking at a disk and doing that... hahaha!

iamgoatman5510d ago

@Istanbull

And yet most exclusives don't even use half of that space, that's not to say the extra capacity is a bad thing, but what you're "enjoying" there is a lot of empty space.

evrfighter5510d ago

Wait a minute I'm lost. Where on n4g was this being hyped?

Ya thought so.

Tarasque5510d ago

@militant07

Did you just say "it doesn't really make difference to you but to the developers... "

Lets see i get to experience the best in audio and video quality in movies, that is unmatched in any other disc format.

If it makes a difference for Dev's for the extra space then i reap the rewards from them benefiting from it.

LunaticBrandon5510d ago

50GB of uncompressed audio and video in multiple languages.

Solidus187-SCMilk5510d ago

no one cares about the disk update that much. Its just a little more space on a disk.

AAACE55510d ago

@Istanbull... Very few Bluray games use more than a 25 Gb disc! So how are you enjoying 50 Gb's?

1 Gb of space won't help a lot, but could give MS a little room to last another year or two until their next console comes out. If it is another GB, I imagine it will all be devoted to graphics.

*Personal note* Is it me, or is the guy in the video the type of person you would like to beat up for no reason? Seems like a winey b*tch!

ComboBreaker5510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

"For anyone that thinks BluRay is the future you are just kidding yourself."

Wikkid666 is right. BluRay is not the future. HD-DVD is the future.

Anyway, sad to see all those hype for the 360's upcoming format suddenly turn to, "wah? we didn't hype it up" when it's found out that it's only a 1 GB increase."

Rageaholic5510d ago

@Wikkid666

blu-ray is great for the ps3 because it allows developers to put more assets in a single game...

as for the pc they are pretty much all manditory FULL installs hence blu-ray is not needed.

as for xbox developers are forced to either create a game to fit on one disk or put on multidisk.... its the xbox arcade to blame and the lack hd space on the early xbox's....

its funny how xbox fans will bash hd install but now you can see it is very beneficial.

gamingdroid5509d ago

I never once been playing a game and then thought:

- ghee I wish my Xbox 360 had more space on the disc.
- the changing of disc is such a hassle. I wish all games were on only one disc.

This game would be soooo much better with those changes!

Point being, no one gives two sh!ts. On top of that, if it really was an issue, just install the disc. You have to do that on PS3 (mandatory) anyhow!

Now, you can enjoy blu-ray and enjoy free online gaming and those are valid reasons. However, blu-ray has never been on top of my list, and I only own 2 blu-ray movies (that I still haven't watched and still in it's sealed wrapper). I don't own Blu-Ray drive on my PC and likely never will. I do own HD-DVD (and I got a few free movies on the deal that most are in the wrapper still) for $20 because I was curious.

I use Netflix! Digital download for the win!

Kurt Russell5509d ago

Lol, disk space nerds.

What are you going to argue over next? The clickyness of controller buttons?

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plb5510d ago

1gb can go a ways if done right. I mean just look at what devs are working with now.

darthv725510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

It wasn't MS that was "hyping" this new format. They simply said we need testers for a new updated format. It was the speculation of the interwebz that has made this thing bigger than it has to be.

MS could have quietly released newer games on these increased discs and the only ones that would cry foul would be the pirates cause they wouldnt be able to release gears 3 to the web.

For MS to announce it shows they wanted to get a grand perspective from users to see how these new discs are handled from old to new systems. Nothing like this needed to be hyped to the moon.

You all can blame yourselves about hyping things. Not MS.

NoobJobz5510d ago

You sir, are correct. There was no mention of a huge uprgrade to the disc format. That was speculation for people on the internet. So to be dissapointed with something that MS never said was going to be a huge difference would be silly.

Emilio_Estevez5510d ago

An extra 1gb is a large percent compared to what was already available. Don't think in size, but in percent being added. I think it holds 8.5, so that's like a 12% increase. Seems substantial to me.

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rabidpancakeburglar5510d ago

So overhyped that this is the first I've heard of it

NYC_Gamer5510d ago

big waste of time in my opinion

Godmars2905510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

Only if it doesn't stop dual disc titles that would have been dual disc in the first place.

Edit@JsonHenry:
It doesn't matter weather or not you or others have a problem with swapping disc, but that disc space has an effect on a game's quality and limits. This has the potential to improve the quality of games on the 360, but only so far as those games stay on one disc.

JsonHenry5510d ago

I never complained about dual discs on the older consoles. I have no idea why swapping discs or having to install part of a disc is so taboo now days.

Aloren5509d ago

Why would those games need to stay on one disc to improve the quality ? if you get an extra GB per disc, being on two disks won't suddenly cancel the effect of the upgrade. The gaming experience won't be ruined cause you spend 5 minutes installing a game when you get it, or 30 secs to swap a disc a few hours in.

Convas5510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

Obvious fanboy is obvious.

We've KNOWN this wasn't Blu-ray. You're talking specifically about the story Blaze put up on THIS SITE when the Disc Update was first announced.

Anyone with a brain could see that it had nothing to do with Blu-Ray, nothing remotely CLOSE to Blu-ray is mention in the official announcement from Major Nelson. And then you go proposing that this is MS trying to bring hype to the 360.

Are you an idiot? Updating a disc format is trying to bring hype? I suppose providing devs with a better Dev Kit is also trying to bring hype.

Gosh. Never in my life have I seen people bashing a company trying to make improvements to it's products.

Edit: You may want to go back and look at that press statement then. Official Hype and unofficial hype are two different things buddy.

MS has not hyped up this preview in any way, and the only place I've seen "Over-hype" is on this site on Blaze's aforementioned Preview Announcement Submission.

We do NOT know what the disc update really even is, also, and yes bro, you asked if we thought "... or do you think this is something Microsoft is bringing to bring hype back to the console?"

You should watch the ending of your vid over again.

Nick2120045510d ago

How's it going Clizzz. In no way did I bash Microsoft for improving the Xbox 360. I am glad that they are doing this. I am just bringing up the fact that this is not the groundbreaking enhancement that it is being hyped up to be.

Nicosia5510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

The only person hyped about it is you. Funny thing is that your overhyping your importance in this matter.

darthv725510d ago

and who's fault is that? Certainly not MS. Blame yourself for getting wrapped up into it to the point where you had to post this vid.

Everyone else will just quietly wait for the official release and subsequent titles to follow.

Solidus187-SCMilk5510d ago

keep that garbage off of N4G please.

Fallouts5510d ago (Edited 5510d ago )

i dont get it either clizzz. its as if everyone on n4g only wants sony in the game, i put up both middle fingers to that shit.

nick do you have a credible source link stating how ms is over hyping it? i mean i havnt heard much of the thing other then the usual "blogs" posted here on n4g.

tmanmushroom5510d ago

Even though its 1gb, it'll allow for larger games until a new *cough*system*cough*

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio12d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing12d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit12d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing12d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay14d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn215d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn214d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown14d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay14d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay14d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac14d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger14d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300014d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde14d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde14d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7516d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_13d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.