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Intel: PC gaming isn't dying, it's changing

Contrary to what a good percentage of the gaming public may believe, PC gaming isn't dying -- it's changing. At least, that's what Intel's Javier Martinez said during the company's semi-annual LANFEST held at its Folsom, California, headquarters. If the turnout at LANFEST is any indication, there's no reason to think otherwise.

plb5512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

Marvel vs capcom isn't on PC? And yes PC gaming is changing and is getting worse IMO. I preferred the PC games years ago when PC games were actually designed with PC's in mind unlike today (mostly).

SactoGamer5512d ago

They were still playing it regardless.

just_looken5512d ago

agree 100% the old days was pc then port 2 console and all the exclusive devs we had nowadays its consoles b4 pc and alot of crapy ports.

imvix5512d ago

@Intel

It may not be dieing however i refuse to buy another upgrade until i see games actually taking advantage of hardware. No point upgrading to play console ports, which play very well on 4-5yr old hardware.

Theonetheonly5512d ago

this becomes a hot topic every console cycle. for the next 3 years or so the pc will get all of the titles that want to innovate graphically.

this is the natural ebb and flow of the gaming tides. when the original xbox wasnt powerful enough to make impressive stuff anymore the pc market came ALIVE more-so it caught fire, then after pc had its time the next round of consoles came out now that we are once again at a performance gap and any comparison of power between consoles and pcs is laughable you will see the pc community and market start back up as it will be the only place to get the bleeding edge graphics that everyone wants.

i remember when halflife 2 was ported to the og xbox yes it could run it but not the at the graphical fidelity it was designed for.

kevnb5512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

how can people just ignore all the pc exclusives? And games made by companies who still have a passion for the pc?
In the old days you had nintendo and sega, two companies who had very little third party support compared to today and almost none from north america. Then sony came around and had everyone making games for them, games started to go multiplat more often even then. Then microsoft came into the console market, and made most big budget titles go multiplatform.
Now its a matter of preference, and of course every platform has exclusives and perks, but Im afraid none can really match the pc.

Now Ill admit, pc exclusives dont have appeal to everyone... especially not kids and pre-teens. And oh yeah, in the old days you didnt have to upgrade every year to keep gaming, that started around 2004 and died around 2007 with crysis.

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DeadlyFire5512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

May have been the trend of the past plb. Most games today in this generation that are solid titles are made separately for PC, PS3, X360. Some are ported. As always you know some developer is going to do this. The ones that are not ports though are still amazing.

2011 we have Crysis 2, BattleField 3, RAGE, ES 5, GW 2, SW: TOR, RO 2, Witcher 2, DNF, Dues Ex: HR, and some others. All solidly built for the PC platform. Mac platform is even getting some love.

Time of old PC ports is changing.

One thing people always forget about PC games. The backbone of a PC multiplayer game community is the consumer. They feed the servers and keep a game alive for up to a decade or more if they choose to do so. You will never see that with a console game. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo or whoever developed the game decides when to kill server support.

SactoGamer5512d ago

Even if it does recover, there is no way it'll regain its former swagger.

RememberThe3575512d ago

I agree. I think it's just that the consoles have become so important in terms of sales that publishers have to allocate more resources there. Piracy has to have a huge effect there as well.

kevnb5512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

I dont know what swagger you mean? Todays mmo is yesterdays fps. You cant just ignore whats happening. the whole upgrade every year to achieve crazy ass graphics was only a short lived fad. PC gaming has gone back to the way I remember it as a child, unique experiences not made for kids.

Arnon5512d ago

I'm confused on this as well. The PC market is still the largest, most profitable gaming market, so I'm not sure what the PC has lost.

The only thing I find annoying is everything people have already stated (i.e. console ports).

hassi945512d ago

Only retards actually think it's dying. Stop it with these articles and comments from developers etc. - we get it's not dying - that's enough.

Neko_Mega5512d ago

That big PC with the fans is like over $14,000 dollars.

Anyways I think PC gaming is going downhill, games are cheaper to get people to buy and not for good reasons like some people think. Plus it is a pain to have to upgrade your computer to keep playing everything on a high setting.

Battlefield 3 is going to blow for PC users that don't have Windows 7, seeing how DX11 is only for Windows 7 and that right there kills it.

imvix5512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

PC gaming sales are on the increase yet you say its going downhill.

Console gaming sales on the other hand have taken a nose dive do you feel that is doing well?

@below

Have you not seen the sales from Steam alone last year:

http://fadellc.com/Press.ht...

Steam was estimated near a billion usd, which is a lot of sales for a digital platform, add in the rest of the DD services, MMOs and retail and PC is actually very healthy. Better then any console anyways.

Neko_Mega5512d ago

I haven't see any sales that show PC going anywhere with sales.

Must be that no one cares or the sales for them aren't that good.

KeiserSosay47885512d ago

@ Neko

STEAM says hi...
I think Digital distribution is the future. Sure, less people are going out to buy games on PC...but I think its because they aren't going out at all; they are staying in the cave and buying online

Substance1015512d ago

@Neko

Even when a DD platform like Steam makes 1 billion usd sales. Due to factors like:

No packaging
No Distribution
No Damages
No returns
No advertisement

Selling a digital copy on Steam results in much higher profit then selling a game on retail. Hence for a Developer even if a console game sells @ 60usd, they only end up seeing a very small amount from that sale. Also since the game is sold on retail it takes 2-3 months before the Developer even sees a penny.

On DD on the other hand cash return is instant. Since DD has much more margin and PC sales mostly are DD now. When Steam has sold a billion to make the same amount of net profit from console sales. The console version would have to sell atleast 2billion to compare in net profit to Steam 1billion.

Sitris5512d ago

You just said better than any console, even though in the very link you posted it states that ps3 had over 7 times the sales than steam. Huh? It seems very 'healthy' to me, as well as 360 right behind it. Add in PC retail sales and it still below every single console sales. So what was your point again? And btw I am a huge pc fan playing shogun 2, crysis 2 and dragon age 2 all on my pc right now. I just hate when people try and justify the changing market of pc, it has changed, and to be honest, not for the better.

imvix5512d ago

@Sitris

Where does it say PS3 software sales 7 times that of Steam?

That would put PS3 software sales at 7billion usd. I read the entire article i wonder where you are pulling that figure from.

Lastly Its not just Steam thats PC gaming. Add in the MMO market. Wow alone revenues at 1billion usd a year.

Rainstorm815512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

"Better than any console.."

Lolz..Yea right...

One thing i give devs though, they are starting to pay PC more attention now that consoles are starting to age but once the next gen of consoles begin, It starts all over...

@imvix
World Software in 2010 Revenue (USD, Millions) Units (Millions)
Playstation 3 (Retail) $7,293 147
Xbox 360 (Retail) $7,242 150
Wii (Retail) $6,830 186
PC (Retail) $5,000 n/a
Steam (PC DD) $910 85
Playstation 2 (Retail) $756 19
Downloadable Content X360 / PS3 $300 n/a
Non-Steam Digital Download PC $250 n/a
Xbox Live Arcade (DD) $135 17
Playstation Network (DD) $90 10
WiiWare & Virtual Console (DD) $86 12

Do you read the stuff you post?? +bubs sitris

As i re-read it this is Vgchartz data as well, so its anyone's guess how reliable the info is..but off this data alone PC falls short of all 3 consoles....again in this data

@disagreers
7,293 * 1,000,000 = 7,293,000,000 = 360 or Ps3 has 7 times steam's software sales, its simple math....

cooperdnizzle5512d ago

I would like to see where you are getting this crap? Console gaming is in a nose drive? With the Wii Ps3 360 and not to mention ps2 that still sales very well to this day. I think you are just making stuff up to say it.

Console gaming is not die, anyone ho thinks that is crazy. Steam was estimated a a billion dollars, that's good i love pc gaming, but Grand theft auto 4 made over 200 million dollars in the fist month... And that is one game alone. Not to mention hardware sales, and countless other games! You my friend are in denial!

Ranshak5512d ago

@Rainstorm

When we consider DD sales are more profitable. it goes a bit like this:

PC
Retail 5,000 million usd
Steam 910 Million usd
otherDD 250 Million usd
Total 6160 million usd

MMO market is still unaccounted, which itself is huge.

PS3

Retail sales 7,293 million usd
DD 90 million usd
Total 7,384 million usd

Now notice how PC sales alot more DD then PS3. Which means that part of PC sales are much more profitable then PS3. Also MMO sales are still not considered in the equation. Once that goes through i would think PC is easily ahead of the PS3 or any console for that matter.

Rainstorm815512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

@ranshak

With MMOs added yes it is possible, but my entire statement is based off of the info in the article imvix posted...and a reply to imvix that PS3 and 360 has 7 times the sales of steam. Using that link as proof of PC dominance over consoles is plain and simply wrong.

To question consoles' profitability is ridiculous, thats why most of the major PC devs started making games on consoles.Before this gen the PC ports to console were either non-existent or very horribly done. Now for most games consoles are the main focus, then port to PC

But im glad you PC guys are seeing a resurgance of PC focused games, now that this gen of consoles are late in their life cycles.

Ranshak5512d ago

@rainstorm

i think you need to reread Imvix's initial post, he clearly mentioned Steam, Retail and MMOs. Not just Steam.

"Steam was estimated near a billion usd, which is a lot of sales for a digital platform, add in the rest of the DD services, MMOs and retail and PC is actually very healthy."

Rainstorm815512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

So completely ignore the statement i replied to at 4.1.5, or the other claims in the initial comment (like" Console gaming sales on the other hand have taken a nose dive") , or the fact no MMO financial data was given this entire conversation including in the link....SMH...Assuming the facts is soooo much better /S

Sales figures isnt even my thing, but if you claim something have proof that backs your claim, not refutes it.

Maybe you should re-read my comments, but really whats the point, cant have a gaming conversation on the net without butthurt fans spamming the disagree button without any addition to the conversation.

At least you reply, kudos to that Ranshak

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just_looken5512d ago (Edited 5512d ago )

fyi pc devs half to make the software with the current windows os's so bf3 has to be win vista/7 compatible not xp because ms has stopped supporting that os. So people on vista can play bf3 as far as xp up to the devs sense its not a supported/current os.

Neko_Mega5512d ago

I was talking about supporting DX11 which is Windows 7 only.

I know games support XP, Vista and 7.

Substance1015512d ago

@Neko

I think you been reading too much into Microsofts marketing.

Sure they advertised Windows 7 has DX 11 as an advantage. However Windows vista supports DX 11 as well, it came as a patch in service pack 2 i think.

Neko_Mega5512d ago

Nope didn't read anything from Microsoft, just a site for Battlefield 3.

If it is on Vista then I guess they didn't get the info right for Battlefield 3.

jp335512d ago

I have Vista x64 Home Premium and a GeForce GTX 460. I have been playing Dragon Age 2 on very high setting so I can tell you that DX11 is compatible with Vista not just WIN.7.

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kevnb5512d ago

i think its time to upgrade to windows 7 now anyway, gamer or not.

Godmars2905512d ago

Gaming in general is changing. Becoming shallow and focused on multiplayer, online, so companies can charge more money after you've bought the game.

hoops5511d ago

Amen brother. Could not have said it better. Bubbles

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