I just want to respond to KingME:

You think it's hypocritical for PS3 fans to criticize Kinect for not having any hardcore games after 6 months because "they waited 4 years for GT5 and 3 Years for GOW3"? Really? So I guess Resistance Fall of Man wasn't a hardcore PS3 game on day one. And then there's the multitude of other core games for PS3 that came out prior to 2010 when GOW3 and GT5 came out.

@callahan What?

One thing Kingme said was 100% correct is, that if Kinect was a Sony baby you guys would love it and defend it to the end.

Way to go KingMe, bring up Move when no one was talking about Move, who's trolling now?

I'm making points in response to a comment, you're rambling on about god knows what. Kinect is capable of more, but if you use it for the things mentioned above it might as well not exist because any camera and mic can do headtracking, leaning and voice commands. If you find these facts so annoying, I must be doing something right.

Nice try though, I dare you to pick out trolling in that comment. In fact, I'd say you're the one trolling here simply because you couldn't have a logical rebuttal, you brought up a completely unrelated product and, as such, I have reported you for trolling.

i agree with king me too!

i remember when the ps3 launched and it was marketed mostly as a blu ray player..

good thing sony doesnt have your mentality, pirate.. im happy for a thing called "marketing change" you know kinda like what sony did with "it only does everything"..

i cant wait for a kinect and controler games. all i want is simple things like reach out to open a door, give a voice cammand etc..

edit...

ill pick out that troll comment

"Kinect is capable of more, but if you use it for the things mentioned above it might as well not exist because any camera and mic can do headtracking, leaning and voice commands. If you find these facts so annoying, I must be doing something right."

lmfao! trying to sound humble with the "kinect can do more" then ruin it with the rest of your comment. i mean really? any camera can do head tracking in 360 and ps3 games now? any? and voice comand? where the hell have i been?!!!

edit @gaden

figures you ppl have the memory span of a fish..

"i remember when the ps3 launched and it was marketed mostly as a blu ray player.. "

Lol what?

gaden is right the 360 crowd marketed as only a blu ray player. Im pretty sure i remember sony saying it was a all in one home entertainment unit.

You guys hear and remember what you want just like everyone else.

and king me you didn't even really argue his point. you just brought up something else entirely while really avoiding answering his question out right. Is he right? can a normal camera do head tracking with the right SW.. I think yes can it do leaning i think yes and a mic pick up voice commands i think yes. So you really didn't disprove anything he said you went around it trying to discredit him.

the thing was sold as you are the controller if the only HC games that come out require a controller from the get basically then i agree that it is kinda stupid to move forward with that as your catch line. When you never were able to product it for the HC.

Fallouts - GT5 on PS3 can do headtracking with the PS Eye, enough for leaning and what not anyway.

There's a game on Dreamcast called "Seaman" which was built around voice commands, see also "Hey You! Pikachu!" on N64. SOCOM single player on PS2 allowed you to issue commands to your squad both as a menu and with voice commands. And, you can even try EndWar on 360.

Remember, this is all software, not hardware. As long as you have a camera and a mic, you can impliment these via software.

Kinect can do these, don't get me wrong, but it's a bit of a waste if that's all it is used for because it can do more, but it's implimentation that is the issue.

So, you know, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

"But the whole thing has been marketed as "You are the controller"."

That's not the whole truth. It has always been about hands free and eventually hybrid gaming. Last E3 Sony took the no buttons jab and people ran with it.

"what most people fail to realize is that Kinect does not have to be the primary controller when playing a game,

hint: you can still hold (and use) a controller while standing in front of a Kinect."

In other word, Playstation Move. Go buy Playstation Move.

I agree with Kingme Also, Pirate Thom is always trolling. Especially Kinect articles.

Troll, Hater, whatever.

candystop - That's a direct quote from Microsoft and they even have an ad called "You are the controller".

So, a bit of time has passed and STILL not a single meaningful response to my comment.

It's easy to call someone a troll, it's harder to find a reasoning, eh?

"Fallouts - GT5 on PS3 can do headtracking with the PS Eye, enough for leaning and what not anyway.

There's a game on Dreamcast called "Seaman" which was built around voice commands, see also "Hey You! Pikachu!" on N64. SOCOM single player on PS2 allowed you to issue commands to your squad both as a menu and with voice commands. And, you can even try EndWar on 360.

Remember, this is all software, not hardware. As long as you have a camera and a mic, you can impliment these via software.

Kinect can do these, don't get me wrong, but it's a bit of a waste if that's all it is used for because it can do more, but it's implimentation that is the issue.

So, you know, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this."

@Pirate Thom:
It's not all about software. Think of Kinect like it's consoles. Every generation they get stronger and more capable of handling software that wasn't possible years ago because of limitations. Other devices could do the same thing but now with Kinect it just does it all ten times better. Really it's up to developers to create software that takes full advantage of the device. Hopefully we see some stuff that takes advantage of it soon but until then I wouldn't worry.

@ Pirate
Once again, for like the 10th time, MS said FROM THE VERY BEGINNING that they would have 3 different types of game. They said they would have traditional (controller), Hybrid (controller and Kinect), and Kinect only (you are the controller) games. Here you go

http://electronictheatre.co...

This article is from 2009, before it was even Kinect. It was still Natal. Now when they do have hybrid games is that going to change the “you are the controller” games? Nope. Will you and everyone else please stop with that truly PATHETIC argument? Please? They have said FROM THE VERY BEGINNING that they would have all 3 types of games, so please just stop with that same old, very annoying argument. You and everyone else who say it are dead wrong. Just stop, there are plenty of other ways you can bash it, but the “but, but ,but they said you are the controller” argument doesn’t work and never has.