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Kevin Butler Failed Killzone 3

GamingUnion.net: No one will doubt the success of Sony's VP of many titles, Kevin Butler, because as a marketing icon he is just about everything gamers can resonate with. He can do anything, has an answer for just about everything, manages to swing in gaming lingo while at the same time showcasing whatever title he's trying to drum up excitement for. Just about every single commercial he's in is memorable simply because he is in it. KB is a star, but I have to wonder just how effective his methods are. Sure I remember every commercial he's in, and there's not a single time that he hasn't made me laugh, but what was the last game that he marketed that I purchased? Killzone 3 perhaps, but I had already made up my mind to buy that title before the predictable Butler ad was even aired.

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ShawnCollier5516d ago

I did enjoy his GT5 ad, I have to admit.

IcarusOne5516d ago (Edited 5516d ago )

I don't enjoy KB that much. Personally, he represents everything I dislike about the PS3 community - pretentious, arrogant, snotty. The GT5 ad is a perfect example. I already knew I was going to get the game because I have mad respect for Polyphony Digital. Then KB shows up, bragging about how HE's the real reason that the game is so awesome. I realize this is all tongue in cheek and supposed to be quasi-ironic, but as someone who frequents n4g and sees the rampant elitism from the Sony camp on a daily basis, seeing it in their ads is a little hard to take.

Really, what those ads boil down to is this: it's not our developers that are awesome, it's not even our games that are awesome. It's just us, Sony, and everything we do, that is awesome. And to me, that's a very disrespectful attitude.

And if MS ran the same type of campaign, I would feel the same way. The whole tone is very uninviting. From my perspective, it's never smart to make people who are undecided about your product feel like idiots, which is what KB does. Advertising is supposed to not just create brand awareness, but brand INTEREST and CURIOSITY. KB ads are only for people who already own and love their PS3. Or more accurately, people who love Sony.

Anyone else who happens to be watching can just go fuck themselves. Because honestly, anyone who's anyone already knows... Sony's teh bestest.

Bereaver5516d ago

The problem with your statement is the reason behind their "pretentious, arrogant and snotty" behavior.

Unless you weren't around the year before or a year after the PS3 was let loose.

Then you're forgiven because you didn't see the trash floating around.

espiritu6045516d ago

its just a commercial. They try to make KB have a witty funny script. Nothing about being arrogant or snotty if its funny and witty.

We have two options

KB

or

the creepy baby that floats

TheComedian5516d ago (Edited 5516d ago )

Well I do understand that you are fed up with fanboys as a whole but don't you think you being a little rough?I can also comprehent why don't you like his tone but remember that he really is not the person he seems to be in the commercials and just puts up a very good (and admittedly humorous) act.That's what Kevin Butler is-a very good actor.As for the general nature of the act coming out somewhat arrogant (which I also find it is) well...think of it from a company's perspective,you have to make your potentional costumer feel like he becomes "superior" with his purchase and comes over to the "winners" side.Preposterous,I know,but it is a commercial strategy used millions of times before and almost always works.

GarandShooter5516d ago

'Really, what those ads boil down to is this: it's not our developers that are awesome, it's not even our games that are awesome. It's just us, Sony, and everything we do, that is awesome. And to me, that's a very disrespectful attitude.'

Yeah, I can see it in these lines from the ads:

With a stick...a stick...

I mean it gets the job done, but come on...

I'll file that under 'not an issue'...

Seriously, you see what you want to see. Your disdain is clouding, or more accurately, forming your judgement.

And the PS3 community, the whole community you've had problems with? Or are you condemning the entire community based on the actions of the PS3 fanboys here? You know, with a less than random, insignificant sample from N4G. That's not prejudicial at all.

Krimson-Rage5516d ago

You must have met a lot of 'Sony fans' to make such a pretentious, snotty and arrogant generalisation.

Rainstorm815516d ago

People complain bout the KB character yet overlook his speech about gaming at E3.

That wasnt "pretentious, arrogant, or snotty"

Besides its a fictional character!!!

Active Reload5516d ago

I love Kevin Butler! He's the only PS3 fanboy I like, lol. I even follow him on twitter...

spunnups5516d ago

KB and arrogant/snotty are polar opposites. He is simply a comedic spokesperson that even my GF thinks is hilarious. If you cant find the comedic value in Kevin Butlers ads, your sense of humor is horrific and I hope our lives never ever cross paths.

lee_ten5515d ago

this article is a failure.

'oh, sony doesn't advertise their games enough!!!111 that's why they're not selling!!11'

*sony brings in kb*

'oh, kb failed killzone 3!'

wow, no satisfying people, i swear.

snipes1015515d ago

I'll start by saying that before you bash me, read my whole comment please.

For all the people attacking Icarus, they fail to consider human nature. IN MY EXPERIENCE, I have seen far more people on the PS3 side of the fence act just as Icarus described, pretentious, arrogant and snotty. They call all xbox fans a bunch of children (which would be making a generalization, something you guys have just condemned him for), they trash every exclusive it has in favor of those on PS3 and they scream about graphics all day long. When you encounter enough people like that, you WILL start to make generalizations.

Now, for all of you civil playstation 3 fans out there, why don't you condemn your console's fanboys and make more of an effort to engage in actual dialog. With, y'know, an adult and level headed expression of opinion.

For the record, 1)I'm not entirely in agreement with what Icarus has said, I am merely saying that I can see where he's coming from (something few of you have tried to do it would seem) and 2) I am not saying xbox fans and fanboys can't be just as bad, I'm just focusing on the topic at hand.

Dee_915515d ago

@IcarusOne
atleast he doesent do it subliminally like some others

Fat Bastard5515d ago (Edited 5515d ago )

@ Snipes & Icarus

You're mixing up PS3 fanboys with fanboys in general. Fanboys praise their exclusives, bash the opponents exlusives, and brag about what their system has to offer. This isn't just in the Sony camp, it's also in the Microsoft camp. Kevin Butler commercials portray KB as an alpha male- he is confident, funny, and the center of attention. People like confidence, and all of my 360 only friends enjoy those commercials. They are funny and arrogant and enjoyable to watch. If you're advertising a game, you want to make it look as good as possible, which is exactly what these commercials do.

snipes1015515d ago

@Fat Bastard

I think you misunderstood what I was getting at, so I'll quote myself:
"2) I am not saying xbox fans and fanboys can't be just as bad, I'm just focusing on the topic at hand."

The issue was PS3 fanboys, so I focused on them. In my time spent here on N4G, I myself have seen far more PS3 fanboys bashing on Xbox software, hardware and other services than the other way around. So while I am addressing fanboys, I'm addressing a certain kind (PS3) that I have had certain experiences with.

DaTruth5515d ago (Edited 5515d ago )

He said community, as in, everyone who owns a PS3. Others stated that it was in fact PS3 fanboys and not the community at large that were the culprits and other fanboys of pretty much anything act identically!

The only difference between now and the 2007 360 fanboy rampage(since you joined in 2009, you missed that) is that 90% of those 360 fanboys went out and bought PS3's when it was revealed that the PS3 is indeed the better gaming machine and now they troll the forums as PS3 fanboys whilst the other 10% pretend to be PC fanboys just to 1 up the PS3 fanboys cause they couldn't beat them or join them!

The moral of the story is: Whether PS3, 360 or PC fanboys, fanboys are just douches and the PS3 douches of today were the 360 douches of yesterday!

rob60215515d ago (Edited 5515d ago )

Wow IcarusOne, Way to go generalizing the 'PS3 community.' PS3 is quite a good time, maybe if you'd let yourself enjoy it a little bit you might not have such harsh opinions about people - that are supposedly very different from you.

Marketing is something that is controversial in itself, you could pick apart just about any form of it if you wanted to. We would be better off without it, but as it is - their competitors do it so they have to as well. If anything MS spends a lot more on marketing and deserves worse criticism. But going after a 'community' is pretty pathetic.

IcarusOne5515d ago (Edited 5515d ago )

How much MS spends on marketing has nothing to do with what type of marketing they're doing. And like I said, I'm not bashing Sony here, I'm unimpressed at the direction the KB campaign has taken their brand.

Also, as far as the "community vs fanboy" debate - I meant the n4g community which I thought would be self-explanatory, seeing as how I'm posting on n4g. I will make this sweeping generalization with a little more specificity and even more confidence:

The ps3 COMMUNITY of FANBOYS on n4g is wildly prejudiced, pretentious, and generally ignorant.

Are all fanboys? Sure. Hell, I'm an xbot. But at least I can admit it. On top of that, I can admit it's a personal preference based on opinion and life experience, unlike the rest of you who seem to believe the PS3 and Sony itself were ordained by a higher technological power and to choose anything else is literal blasphemy and something to be scorned and hated. Honestly, how insecure with the rest of your lives are you?

And if you cared at all to check my comment history, there have been plenty of times I've had praise for Sony, the PS3 and it's exclusives. I've even defended it from my own kind. But again, unlike most of you, I can give credit when and where credit is due. But most of you would rather die than ever admit MS has done anything right. Ever.

Because you don't love games. You love a corporation. And that's just pathetic.

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RedDead5516d ago (Edited 5516d ago )

I actually prefare the older ones..they're so fu**ed up it's not even funny

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I like a few of the KB ones but half of them don't hit me.

Bereaver, it would be better if fanboys just didn't exist. The 360 ones back then ran rampant...but it is just as bad now except for the Ps3 because it is better now whereas the 360 was better back in 06,07 by alot. It doesn't really matter does it though? They're all the same no matter what the fanboy it is.

ChristianGamer5516d ago

GT5 ad was definately my favourite. That laugh just floored me lol

NotSoSilentBob5516d ago

Turn your speakers up and prepare to die of laughter.

http://www.youtuberepeat.co...

NotSoSilentBob5516d ago

Turn your speakers up and be ready to die of laughter.

http://www.youtuberepeat.co...

chidori6665516d ago

Kevin Butler isn't really funny to me anymore. His type of humor hasnt expanded in this days..

cool cole5515d ago

NO, YOUR HUMOR HASN'T EXPANDED!

TBM5515d ago

I don't need advertising to tell me what games to buy I've been gaming since the early 80s. Im 37 now and I consider myself a knowledgeable gamer.

TBM5515d ago

well according to this random disagreer i'm not a knowledgable gamer who's been gaming since the early 80s, and im not 37 yrs old.

i'd like you to prove me wrong if you can.

honestly the few people on this site who are so clueless make me hahahaha.

TBM5515d ago (Edited 5515d ago )

i would love for those who disagree to tell me otherwise. please tell me im not 37 or that i havent been gaming since the early 80s please, or that i know nothing about what games to buy for myself.

if you can't back it up then your just a w*nker imo.

RioKing5515d ago

I agree with you dude. You and I, we're not sheep...simple as that.

JUDALATION5515d ago

Killzone 3 Failed Killzone 3...the game lacks any fun whatsoever... Unlike killzone 2 did. everything from the huge maps to the lack of weapons and terrible class system as compared to killzone 2. The soldier class was awesome in kz2, and you used that class to level up and upgrade and choose your class... that was awesome!
Killzone 3 is like a cute girl that likes to tease you all night... no thanks i like girls that put out... and Killzone 3 does not!

otherZinc5515d ago

If Killzone 3 was as good as SONY thought it would be, Kevin Butler would be a legend.

Jazz41085515d ago

In my honest opinion gg failed kz3.

RioKing5515d ago

Wow, that game doesn't sell like a "certain" other FPS did and people start blaming a tv ad for that? Did I just read that right? How about the people that didn't buy it are to blame? Or how about it sold enough to not blame anyone? Lets just blame god while we're at it!!! Grow up, you immature pricks.

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fozzness5516d ago

I guess I can see where you're coming from... although... I mean... it's kevin butler!!! ;A;

mephman5516d ago (Edited 5516d ago )

Kevin Butler was great, but he's starting to lose his appeal a bit I think. His last few ads have been kinda meh.

Hardedge5516d ago

Especially the MLB one...

-Alpha5516d ago (Edited 5516d ago )

My problem with KB is that he gets more airtime than the games being advertised, and that shouldn't happen.

Also, some games deserve serious, uninterrupted adverts, yet KB has stunted the mood of games like God of War.

These ads shouldn't be for fans, they should be for the general public/target audience of the product. I hope inFamous 2 gets a sick ad with House of the Rising Sun playing over it as opposed to a KB ad. IMO it sets the mood and hypes the game better.

moparful995516d ago

@alpha male I was talking to someone the other day who only occasionally plays games and he referenced the MLB show and he loved it.. Laughed out loud right there... Everyone on here is overly exposed to it so we are kind of numb to it but the average joe schmoe isn't... Its memorable and funny to them.. Puts them at ease about buying the game.. The kevin butler ads are brilliant and its hard to see that from our perspective because we know all about these products loooong b4 the kevin butler ads appear on tv...

showtimefolks5516d ago

but i think he is spot on with gt5 and mlb but with KZ3 he could have done better

but he is just a character there are writers and stuff

also as sony has said KB isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

think about this sony had the same PR firm for ps1 and ps2 so this gen about 2-3 years in they finally made the switch to a new one so don't expect them to make another switch and why would they bring this guy to E3 if he was not in PS brand future

E3 cost a lot of money and they put him on for 10 minutes and those 10 were the best 10 minutes of whole E3

soljah5516d ago

personally i don't remember seeing that many ads for kz3 on tv. saw tons of ads for homefront and crysis 2.
Sony just needs to get out more ads for it top 1st party games

Hardedge5516d ago

I don't watch KB ads for the games! xD

WildArmed5516d ago

I am ashamed of myself, but it's true.
I already know about the game waaay before the KB ad hits.

I watch the ads for the humor

Hardedge5516d ago

Indeed, the humour is what I like about them.

-Alpha5516d ago (Edited 5516d ago )

But that's not good for the general audience IMO. The people the ads should be directed at are people who DON'T know about the game.

KB is more of a mascot for the forum/internet fans than he is a good advertiser for the general public. I wish more games got independent ads, they would be more effective I think.

moparful995516d ago

You can't learn enough information about ANYTHING in a 30 second tv ad.. You have to grab the audiences attention and "plant that seed".. They will seek knowledge on their own.. Being memorable and funny is faaaarrrr more valuable then an informative commercial.. Why do you think companies pay milions of dollars to have a 30 second commerical that is all humor? We as human beings are moved by humor and it resonates with us, trust me they know what they are doing....

DrHouse5516d ago

Kevin Butler is a pretty talented guy. I dont own a ps3 but there's no denying Sony made a good choice to employ him to market their games.

palaeomerus5516d ago

You mean Jerry Lambert? Because that's the actor's real name.

He used to do Geico commercials as the CEO that was answering letters and traveling around the country with the Gecko.

Kevin Butler is just a made up character.

jrbeerman115516d ago (Edited 5516d ago )

love how facts get disagrees...

"kevin butler is real to me dammit!"

NiKK_4195515d ago

yea, he's actually been in a LOT of commercials and tv shows, like a bunch of holiday inn commercials, everybody loves raymond and a lot more, but i just never noticed him before the kevin butler ads

Throwaway20205516d ago

I really don't get this guy. These ads aren't meant for him. He clearly isn't the kind of customer who finds out about a game from a KB ad. That's who these ads are aimed and they're good at it. Also no amount of KZ3 marketing was ever going to take a substantial share of sales from the monster that was COD:BLOPS(I assume this is what he meant when saying they had the same demographic),so there goes his founding example. This article really shouldn't make it to the front page but it will, sigh.
P.S. I was under the impression that KZ3 sold quite decently, considering it is an FPS(heavily saturated market) and also a console exclusive(smaller market than multi-plats), or am I wrong?

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted13d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8513d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele13d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk12d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay12d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10113d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit12d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg12d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10112d ago (Edited 12d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14913d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_26d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle26d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit26d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog26d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog26d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad26d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_26d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage26d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda26d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong52d ago

looks god awful on the base systems