preordered 8)

While it doesn't look as good as GT5 does, it still looks more fun. And that's what's important here.

Then again, once you've played one -- You've played them all.

A racing game is a racing game is a racing game.
A FPS is a FPS is a FPS.
A fighting game is a fighting game is a fighting game.

All 3 of those genres show little innovation with each new release. And there are plenty of new releases in each. Unfortunately.

I bought Burnout Paradise for the PSN when it first hit the network. It still plays as good as all the other racers out there, and it looks as good as 90% of the same racers out there.

You can buy 1 racing game, 1 FPS, 1 fighting game, 1 sports game at the start of a consoles life and never buy another one that gen and you won't miss out on anything but DLC and maybe, maybe, maybe some slight graphic enhancements.

Best graphics in a racing game so far. Add that to the amazing cockpit view + realistic head movement = win win

Gran Turismo and Forza for console ftw! Im sorry, 30fps shift 2 VS 60fps competition. You just cant have 30fps sim.

That cockpit does not look anywhere near as good as GT5's premium's.

That shaking is giving me a headache kinda like that movie cloverfield.

I'm not impressed with much in terms of racing this gen. Graphics have been really raised racently, and it wasn't by the "two kings" (GT and Forza) in racing. Shift 2 and the upcoming Project Cars are now DOMINATING racing games graphically, GT5 and Forza 4/H do not even compare. But physics and gameplay-wise, most everything's been "off" aside from a select few. My short list would be.

#1 GT5. It's still rocking everybody in terms of gameplay and variety. It's got every kind of 4 wheeled racing almost from Karts to F1 and everything in between. GT needs to step it up graphically now though. Forza is the LEAST of their worries there.

#2 Motorstorm Pacific Rift. Just the #1 most fun and intense arcade/off-road racer ever made or ever will be made. SOOOOOO much variety compared to the bare bones (but great) first game, and a way better racing game than the 3rd game which was more like Split-Second than MotorStorm in THIS Motorstorm Fan's opinion.

#3 F1 Championship Edition. This PS3 exclusive launch game is imho still the best F1 game this gen in terms of the racing.

#4 FerrariChallenge/SuperCar Challenge. Alot of people havn't heard about these, they got VERY little attention. They sucked because not alot of cars, but it's a fact that System 3 put into these PS3 exclusives (they were on Wii too, but they weren't as advanced) the most advanced, realistic physics to ever be in a console racer. The same physics they put into their PC sim. Good graphics for the time too. Very under-rated.

#5 Shift 2. This is only here because I think graphically, it's a sneak peek at the next level in racing sim graphics. Project Cars is improving on that. But Shift 2 has HORRIBLE physics and I disliked playing it. If Project Cars can get the physics more in line than Shift 2, and have enough of a garage to have the variety in the racing while keeping the online field fairly even like GT5 does, it will truly be the next level of racing sims, and something may actually pull me away from GT5, which nothing has based on gameplay.

Also: WipeOut HD- awesome game, awesome value, it's expansion makes it an even better value, top notch quality.