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Socom 4 Beta Impressions

Socom if you don’t know already, is a long running third person shooter made by Zipper Interactive. This is Zipper’s second game for the Playstation 3 after MAG. While Socom is still what you expect it to be it seems Zipper has decided to incorporate some elements from MAG in order to push the series forward.

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Nawabi5528d ago

i ain't expecting much from socom 4 sadly :(

Orange5528d ago

the beta has been a lot of fun. i suck, but still enjoy it. the 2 maps are getting old, but they're great maps.

chidori6665528d ago

SOCOM 4 will have it's share of players, but it certainly won't be a success, that's for sure...

DirtyLary5528d ago

BS assumption. The self proclaimed hardcore that cry for a copy/paste S2 remake are going to buy this day one. We know it, they know it, Zipper knows it.

BattleAxe5528d ago (Edited 5528d ago )

The guts of this franchise have been ripped out and thrown in the garbage can. Zipper clearly doesn't want to listen to their community. They've decided to cater to the CoD players out there which is a bad choice, because when the next big shooter comes out, all those people who bought Socom 4 will never look back. Its either that or the CoD players will keep playing Black Ops, crysis 2, Killzone 3 and Homefront, and the true fans of Socom that have been alienated will go back to Confrontation(unfortunately) because it resembles the PS2 Socoms more than Socom 4 does.

Side note, theres a petition over at the playstation blog for a Socom 2 HD remake:

http://share.blog.us.playst...

Panthers5528d ago

Unfortunately Socom Confrontation is all we have now. Still the gunplay and camera is MUCH better than Socom 4.

BattleAxe, I feel you are the only other true socom fan on this site lol. +bubs

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xAlmostPro5528d ago (Edited 5528d ago )

They done what infinity ward done with mw2 and made the game "noob friendly"..

they removed so many things that made socom what it was, and don't say "classic mode" because even classic mode is still missing things like "lean" etc.

not only that but i joined a game today(after playing for about 3hours the day before) to give it another chance and the 1st game i go in my team is spawn trapped went 0-10 in like 1 minute flat.. honestly since when was this kind of thing an issue in socom :(

the games not what it was anymore thats for sure, granted people will buy the game and enjoy it, however i won't be one of them.

They've also used alot of design features from MAG but with better graphics which also makes it seem like they put less effort into it, kind of how medal of honour looks extremely like bfbc2 lol..

Ohwells, happens and this is my opinion of course :) i know others feel differently but hey

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Winning5528d ago

The campaign sounds beast. Hopefully it delivers.

Assassin Nawabi5528d ago

wow reading through this beta impressions... gotta say i am impressed :p

crzyjackbauer5528d ago (Edited 5528d ago )

yeah i dont think anybody has ever bought a socom game for the campaing

RankFTW5528d ago (Edited 5528d ago )

I had a few rounds on the beta the other night and it was quite fun but not as fun as some other games that have come out in the last month. I will no doubt pick it up anyway to play through the single player.

Uncensored595528d ago

dude i love socom..beta this is not socom...im sorry

Panthers5528d ago

No it is not. Wish they would have named it something else, then made a REAL socom game.

BakedGoods5528d ago

What's so different about it? Seriously, I'm wondering. I enjoyed the beta but didn't really play the other games.

Is it faster/more action-y that original SOCOMs? Whats the deal?

xAlmostPro5528d ago

It's completely noob friendly now..

Secondaries such as pistols have been removed and instead been replaced with 2 primary weapons..

you cant 'lean' anymore

they've dropped gametypes socom was known for like extraction..

socom was well known for it's clan support, there's still some in the game but there's no more clan lobbies (where your clan could sit and wait for another clan to join etc)

so many things..

Slant6 did an awful job with confrontation yet it's far closer to a real socom game than socom4 is

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Petition Launched for Socom 2

Socom fans speak out on Change.org with a petition to bring back Socom II Remastered to PlayStation 4. Will it even make a difference?

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s2Celerity4065d ago

Greatest game to ever exist, this would sell consoles for sure.

urgentfury4065d ago

I agree it would sell some consoles but I am not sure the numbers will be staggering enough. I do however think that the franchise should be revived and brought back to its roots.

Crimzon4065d ago

I can't speak of the roots of the franchise since I never played SOCOM 1 or 2, but was the last game on PS3 really that bad? I saw a lot of the fans of the older games speak poorly of it back when it launched, but as someone new to the franchise I thought SOCOM 4 was incredibly fun and enjoyable to play. I was really disappointed when Sony shut down the servers for that game.

I was really impressed with that game on a technical level as well. The gameplay was enjoyable enough, but the levels being so large, with complex geometry and so much foliage while letting 32 players run around with no lag was very impressive at the time, especially since the graphics were actually really good in my opinion.

It was frustrating to see Sony shut down Zipper Interactive. I guess their games weren't for everyone but I really liked MAG and SOCOM 4. Same goes for Sony Liverpool and Wipeout HD. Sad to see great developers like that gone and Sony use the money to fund rubbish like The Order instead.

Commodore4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

To Crimzon:

SOCOM 4 (We don't even consider it a SOCOM game) was so terrible, it was amazing that the game even got made with the amount of misdirection Zipper went with. Every previous SOCOM was based on 1 life, no respawn. That gave it the thrill and intensity that no other game has ever done to this day. It was a cluster **** of every current game at the time. Call of Duty and Uncharted mainly. Wall hugging? No thank you.

SOCOM 2 would still have it's core base but people today who can't handle waiting 5 minutes for the next round when they die. They do something stupid like rushing into a room and not working together as a team....and then they die.

morganfell4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

Compared to the other SOCOMs, SOCOM 4 was bad because the MP was completely different from previous titles and what people wanted was the gameplay they had previously enjoyed.

Confrontation turned out to be good but you wouldn't know it from some people. Persons that liked SOCOM 2 didn't like Confrontation because they played it for the first month or so then quit. It took 6 months and over 600MB of patches but eventually Confrontation had a really good SOCOM II vibe. Those that stuck it out or else came back to the game after that 6th month were pleasantly surprised.

The main thing missing from COnfrontation, and SOCOM III for that matter was the Breach mode as itr was never the same after II and it was my favorite game mode. Playing SOCOM II and Breach on Sujo or Sandstorm was a blast. But it was winning Breach mode as a SEAL on Enowapi that took the most skill.

Sujo: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sandstorm: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

2014 Gameplay for Fish Hook, SOCOM II: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

BattleAxe4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

It will never happen. I'm not sure why people keep kicking this dead horse. The Playstation Blog already had a petition with something like the second highest votes out of all the petitions on Playstation.Blog Share, and Sony didn't do anything about it back then. H-Hour is what everyone should be concentrating on right about now. Socom 2 was awesome, but it's time to stop living in the past, and start moving on with your lives.

Helix4065d ago

you all do realize HHOUR is coming out by Sofstudios

www.sofstudios.com

morganfell4065d ago

Yes, but despite the pedigree H Hour isn't SOCOM. If you look at the most recent vids it is quite apparent.

BattleAxe4064d ago

^^^

Well at this stage of H-Hour's development, what do you expect? And unless you've been playing the alpha, how can you talk about pedigree? Zipper was a well funded studio, whereas SOF Studios is just getting started.

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Bigpappy4065d ago

Being a huge Ghost fan, I have always had an interest in playing the early Socom games. It was this and GOW that always caught my interest. Not big on Uncharted and Bloodborne or D'Souls (not saying those are bad games).

lilbrat234065d ago

I remember never sleeping playing this game on the PSP I wish they would also release a Vita version of this game. The online was epic.

ZombieKiller4065d ago

I would buy this again in a flash. I've been waiting for another really good Socom game. Where camping is legitimate instead of running around like a chicken without a head.

Sorry A.D.D. world, but camping IS A STRATEGY.

harbie4065d ago

Damn can't agree 1million times lol ;)>. Never before have truer words been spoken. SOCOM II is the greatest game of all time.

You can still play it today via Xlink, come join us, until SOCOM II HD finally comes out! :)

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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s2Celerity4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

We can do better than this people, let's get it started! http://imgur.com/w2yBsrg

NO_FEAR4065d ago

This was the all time best game on any console at it's launch. It was a pivotal moment in console gaming history. Millions of fans enjoyed it and it formed bonds of friendships that survive to this day. It spurred the competitive gaming scene. A great game will always be a great game. This timeless remaster would be enjoyed again by old fans and new alike.

s2Celerity4065d ago

Still playing multiplayer on LAN through a PC application that connects ps2 ip's together. Cant believe it's been almost 12 years

harbie4065d ago

Xlink is the app if anyone is interested in playing SOCOM 2

HELVEG264065d ago

Yup Sony should bring back a Classic SOCOM, its still sorely missed by thousands even after all these years. There is a lot of money to be made for them if they get it right. This game sold consoles!! Always a deciding factor in the past when choosing between a PS or XBOX.

s2Celerity4065d ago

No doubt in my mind this would sell consoles. It's the most addictive experience out for almost a decade now.

OUROSMAG4065d ago

Wasn't the studio behind SOCOM shut down?

s2Celerity4065d ago

Sony still owns the rights and has given it to another studio before as well. Anything could happen

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Broadening your Audience - It Can be the Death of you

Ever wondered how the third iteration of video game series always end of worse than the second part? Kyle Flanagan explains how the concept of broadening your audience can make your games worse.

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MasterCornholio4392d ago (Edited 4392d ago )

Imagine if they made Dark Souls for casuals?

The franchise would never be the same after that.

Mutant-Spud4392d ago

Yeah and we casuals still wouldn't want to play it!

DCfan4392d ago

MGS is unfortunately going that route.

DCfan4392d ago

Everything about MGSV screams 'westernization'.
Its not like the game is not popular enough.
And did you forget Kojima's talk about westernizing MGO?

DanielGearSolid4392d ago

Personally, the game still feels like good ol' MGS, but with better controls, to me...

I don't think they're trying to "broaden their audience" per say... I feel like it's more taking elements from Western games that can fundamentally improve their game... But, thats just me

jeremyj29134391d ago

That's what Capcom tried doing last gen and look at them now.

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SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4 and MAG servers shutting down in January 2014

Original-Gamer.com: "Sony has decided to shutdown the servers for SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4, and MAG in January 2014. SOCOM 4 and MAG were developed by Zipper Interactive while SOCOM Confrontation was developed by Slant Six Games."

Abash4686d ago

Very sad to hear, hopefully Sony continues SOCOM and MAG on PS4

BiggCMan4686d ago

MAG is not even too old yet, this doesn't make any sense. It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans, even one of my friends recently got back into it. Hell even Confrontation has a pretty decent sized dedicated player base, I think only 4 is pretty deserted.

This really makes no sense, the games aren't old. They better be making new games in the future at least.

HammadTheBeast4686d ago

Come on now, MAG's pretty old, their new console is coming out, and there's only about 5000 individual players coming on every month, if that.

It's run its course, a fantastic game while it lasted. Hopefully, we can get a few massive battles in before the servers close, knowing the community, I expect it.

Also, a lot of MAG is on Dust 514 now, which isn't amazing, but is still alright.

kwyjibo4686d ago

It makes sense.

MAG is no longer selling, so Sony is making no money from it. In fact, it's costing them money to keep it alive.

Maybe with PS4 pay-for-online and microtransactions (read: ongoing support), you'll get a better service.

decrypt4686d ago (Edited 4686d ago )

@HammadTheBeast

"Come on now, MAG's pretty old"

No it isnt, you want really old check out:

Warcraft 3, Starcraft 1, Counter strike. Then tell me why those games are still running?

Sony closing servers to older games is just a tactic to force users on board their next console.

Its the nature of console gaming, too controlled with console gamers having little to no rights at all. Hell if Sony closes PS3 online services after PS4 launch there is nothing console gamers can do about it.

JAMurida4686d ago

MAG is barely alive now these days. Domination is only playable early AM hours (CST) when the JP players get on and that only last a few hours. Only thing going on is Sabo or Suppression.

Lucky to get an Interdiction or Acquisition going.

Utalkin2me4686d ago

Kind of ironic i recently put mag back in and got all the updates and restored all my skill points. And OMG i could not kill anybody for nothing, it was quite weird. I used to be beast at that game and i went negative for a few games before finally i quit. Felt like i was doing worse for the team then helping.

It wasn't very populated then, but hate to hear that.

BattleAxe4686d ago (Edited 4686d ago )

H-Hour is the new Socom. You can still support the development studio by way of Paypal, and you still get access to all of the Kickstarter rewards, but only until the end of the month.

http://sofstudios.com/index...

H-Hour is set to come out on PS4 and PC.

Corpser4686d ago

@all

MAG was released in 2010, just 3 years ago! You're telling me I should expect online servers to be around for just 3 years?

GasTankKiller4686d ago (Edited 4686d ago )

"It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans."

You only see one side of this. Sony sees the stats of how many players are playing on average. No reason to waste server power for a handle full of people. Yes that handle full could be a few thousand but still.

From what I remember during MAGs development. Zipper was given a blank check and setup a server farm for MAG.

No reason to let all those servers go to waste. They will most likely use them for the PS4.

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GameCents4686d ago (Edited 4686d ago )

Where's the outrage? They effectively saying that you've been renting MAG all this time. Online only games shouldn't have their servers shut so soon.

HammadTheBeast4686d ago

There's about 200 people on at any time now.... and most from the free demo.

Corpser4686d ago

^^

So? You're perfectly fine an online-only game that people are still playing will be shut down

JAMurida4686d ago

#Corpser

Yes there is a community, but a very small one. It's the same case with White Knight Chronicles 1/2. Both MAG and WKC I've played heavy enough to say they had a very small community that most likely didn't warrant Sony paying the money to keep the servers going for any longer. It sucks, but it happens when it's a case like this.

If anything, I'm more surprised that MAG is being shutdown much later than WKC was. IMO, it should of been the other way around.

Sitdown4686d ago (Edited 4686d ago )

Haha, some have no clue of exactly what you just did there. Or am I reading too much into it?

No_Limit4686d ago

In other news, the 2007 X360 online only game, Shadowrun, is still playable on its online server. This show where the priority is for both companies when it comes to online gaming.

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Corpser4686d ago

MAG community is far from dead, why?

And no wonder GameStop has been selling the game used for $0.99. It's an online-only game too

fr0sty4686d ago

It's a shame, I enjoy playing MAG more than just about any other shooter out there. I know many do not agree, as it does have some very obvious flaws, but it's a gem of a game beneath them.

MidnytRain4686d ago

Whoa, a dollar?? Are you serious?

Gridloc4686d ago

That's the only problem I have with digital downloads and multiplayer only games. If they shut the servers down your screwed...

Ray1864686d ago

If it has a lan option you can always use x-link.

fr0sty4686d ago (Edited 4686d ago )

I would hope such a service would work for a game like MAG, enough of the community (that is already dwindling) would need to know about that capability, and actually be bothered to want to try using it in order for it to work. I think it's just going to kill the community enough to make the game unplayable, as MAG relies on very large matches.

SIRHC134686d ago

H-Hour. We need you. Deliver the tactical third person shooter goods that we deserve!

MoonConquistador4686d ago

And in a run up to a sequel they should be giving this game away free on PS+ at least, or just make it a free to play game. Its a game I always wanted to platinum but there are never enough people on for domination games etc

Great game though

MidnytRain4686d ago

I do think Sony is expecting PlanetSide 2 to fill the massive shooter niche.

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