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IGN - Contrarian Corner: Killzone 3

IGN - I like Killzone 3. I admire the risky controls that threaten player skill with strange momentum and weight. I like the story, a civilization fighting against itself because one of its branches has suddenly mutated and become unsympathetic. I like the bleakness of the ending, a war game that closes in a moral blackbox. If, as the 19th Century Prussian soldier Carl van Clausewitz said, war is diplomacy by other means, how can we ever really hope to be diplomatic knowing that all sides in a conflict have their willing fleets ready to drop bombs when rational exchange fails? In Killzone 3, I get the feeling that we fight because we're better at it than talking. As the writer A.C. Grayling reminds us, even in the most righteous of wars, the hardest part is having to face up to what you've done in name of the diplomatic cause. Even when it was the right thing to do it can still feel absolutely wrong .

cochise3135537d ago

This is by far the best PS move games so far. I hope Socom 4's controllers are as good. This game must be played with the sharpshooter to get the full effect.

Kingscorpion19815537d ago

I'm having a lot of fun with Socom 4 multiplayer beta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

DrRichtofen5537d ago

^ do you know if you can use the move in the beta?

darkdoom30005537d ago

Yeah, it was confirmed on the blog.

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+ Jeremy Dunham on March 16th, 2011 at 12:27 pm said:

if you already have PlayStation Move, our beta is compatible with it — and the Sharp Shooter and 3D, in fact. Get in early if you can (we’re doing Twitter and Facebook giveaways all week to let you in early)"

http://blog.us.playstation....

ddurand15537d ago

not true, but id love to try it.

BattleAxe5537d ago (Edited 5537d ago )

Move is a gimmick just like the Wiimote and Kinect. I use the Dual Shock 3 for the full effect. So in effect I'll be laying the smack down on yo ass when I see you online if you are using that...thing.

fooltheman5537d ago

...you should open your mind...
a core gamer should like more genres than one and especially be open to more control schemes

cochise3135537d ago

That's what you think. My k/d ratio was 28 and 7.

Pixel_Pusher5537d ago (Edited 5537d ago )

God damn I hate IGN all they do is pit one group of gamers against the other while they sit back and reap all the ad revenue.

here's a good example of them doing exactly that
Mass Effect 2 is Better than Uncharted
http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

IGN gets permaban

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RandomDude6555537d ago

"The interactive language is a sloggish incarnation of the weight of war, a first person shooter with wobbly movement, an ungainly aim, and a nasty recoil system that makes shooting a process of guesswork and intuition. It's a total contrast to the greased-lightning aim of Call of Duty"
Ummmm.........lol. No, that was Killzone 2. This one removed most of that.

"The Helghast, feeling betrayed by their former brothers and sisters on earth, decide they're superhuman powers make them the future of the species and so they invade."

lol......did this guy even play the game? Superhuman huh? God IGN sucks.

HeavenlySnipes5537d ago

Superhuman?

They're all fucking human ROFL

And I'm glad that KZ3 has recoil. The fucking betas didn't and it got me worried that the game would turn into COD.

darkdoom30005537d ago (Edited 5537d ago )

KZ3 removed KZ2's input lag. The heavy feel stays intact.

EDIT: Speaking of recoil. Move vibrating when shooting... produces actual recoil. It's a cool effect.

RandomDude6555537d ago (Edited 5537d ago )

Yeah, move is great with it. I think they definately reduced bullet spread as well. I guess "superhuman" means more technologically advanced.

shadow27975537d ago (Edited 5537d ago )

Oh gosh, IGN isn't the one being ignorant here. Not that it's common knowledge, but Visari preached that their mutations made them stronger. It made them superhuman (or rather "extra-human"). Now, granted, they didn't have powers like this guy said, but they did consider themselves better than human and the future of the species. He got that part right.

If you want to read more about it, go here:
http://www.killzone.com/kz/...

It's in the Helghast Era>"The Rise of Visari" and "The Birth of the Helghast".

HeavenlySnipes5537d ago

Just know, the backstory is awesome, you guys here should read it. Maybe they should do a prequel on the first extra-solar war.

Anyway, they are just mutated enough to withstand the high gravity and harsh atmosphere. Not exactly superhuman, but they are mutated.

NeloAnjelo5534d ago (Edited 5534d ago )

The story of Killzone remains one of the best on shooters. The back story and its continuation is very deep, interesting and rich.

It's a shame that many actually don't know much about the Helghast except what they've seen in the games. They ruled Vekta (where they lived) and Helghan. Vekta being rich in vegetation, while Helghan was a wasteland, but filled with minerals and other resources. They were kicked off Vekta, which they tried to claim back in the first killzone. Yes they are "the enemy who are evil". However the backstory puts a lot of things into perspective.

The weighty controls, recoil and aiming mechanic mentioned in this article were more prevalent in Killzone 2. I wish it wasn't removed. I'm glad IGN did this article, as the views expressed and similar to mine, of which is in the minority.

piroh535d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic535d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23535d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1535d ago (Edited 535d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger525d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1101d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1101d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1101d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1100d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491100d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381101d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1101d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1101d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381101d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1101d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761101d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1100d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301101d ago (Edited 1101d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1100d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1101d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1101d ago (Edited 1101d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1100d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1100d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

DSOGaming writes: "While Sony does not plan to release Killzone 3 on the PC, Yahfz shared a video that gives us a glimpse at what such a PC version could look like."

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bouzebbal1851d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1852d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1852d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1852d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1852d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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Vegamyster1851d ago

jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1851d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1851d ago (Edited 1851d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1852d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1852d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1851d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1851d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1852d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1851d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1851d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1851d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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