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Zune vs. iPod specification smackdown

The new Zunes are official so let's get to it: a spec-by-spec scrap between Redmond's new Zunes and Cupertino's formidable iPod foe. Unfortunately, Microsoft failed to mention the all important battery performance of their new gear in addition to a few other minor details. Microsoft fans will tell you that's due to an iPhone-like surprise close to the November launch while haters will jump to the conclusion that this is a definite sign of trouble. Still even without that morsel, there's plenty of data to masticate for comparison. The Zune 80GB certainly holds its own when pitted against the 80GB iPod classic on a specification table. That's not the case, however, with the iPod touch as long as you're willing to sacrifice the bytes for the touch's bigger display and heftier price tag. It's a tougher call on the flash-based Zune vs. the iPod nano -- just how important is WiFi to you on a 1.8-inch display? None of this, of course, accounts for the oh so important user experience or the ecosystems supporting their respective players. As such, I'll reserve final judgment until I have the new Zunes in-hand. Until then you'd best dig in fanboys, that November release is a long way off. The tables that follow will provide the fuel to fight the flame wars for the weeks to come.
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CRIMS0N_W0LF6781d ago

Anything from Apple > Anything from Microsoft.

Ignorant Fanboy6781d ago

You must be an English teacher or something.

I actually like my Zune the best, over my ipod nano and Mini. The software is no-headache straight forward. I hate itunes, zunes software is much better.

And having a radio built in adds a little bit to the size, but its still small enough to look cool, and the bigger screen is great for movies. I hve transformers on mine.

marinelife96781d ago

You're the first person I've heard in real life or e-life that owns a Zune. Congratulations!

BIadestarX6781d ago

buy... it must be easy to be a Microsoft hater... Don't you guys find it a little strange that no matter what's released as long as it comes from Microsoft you hate it? Everything they do is garbage in your eyes... it's also interesting how you forget that real people actually work there... you seem to believe that Microsoft (bill gates) works on all the products and therefore everything sucks. This is why I hate Sony fanboys and idiots like CRIMS0N_W0LF, Bill Gates, etc. I don't like Sony but it would be very ignorant of me to believe that every product from Sony must suck because it comes from Sony... just because I had bad experience with the PS1 (replaced 2 times), PS2 (drive errors.. replace 3 times).. digital camera... etc. Different people work on different projects...
Kind of sick how some of you really make a company like if it was 1 person.. and you develop a hate.... and then make insulting comments like, "Now go suck Bill Gates D1CK Shall you? and rid us of your stupidity." just because someone does not share the same hate or have a preference to another product... this is a patern I noticed with most Sony fanboys and linux nerds wanna be. Let people decide the product they want.. and the opinion they have based on their experience...

"You're the first person I've heard in real life or e-life that owns a Zune. Congratulations!" question... did you know that Zune is the 2-3rd in terms of marketshares after the ipod and came out less than 1 year ago? what does that tell us about you? I think you should be the one being congratulated...

"Software of Zune is Microsoft thus having bugs and errors 100%." ohh look.. you have an opinion.. you expect people to respect it.. yet you don't respect the right that others have to pick what they want.
Question b!tch (I will talk to you based on the same level of respect you give others)... "Software of Zune is Microsoft thus having bugs and errors 100%." do you own a Zune? how would you know this? I own 2 Ipod, a motorola, and 1 Zune... what you say is bull... what bugs? can you describe them? Though the Zune is not perfect like.. it does not let you record FM radio.. and should have more uses for the wireless capabilities.. bit does offer a lot more featurse than the Ipod.. and the pay a fee and eat all you want option makes it my choice when it comes to music... I use my Ipod video for movies I can download off itunes (prison break!)... too bad when it comes to movies the itunes is better.. because the zune has a bigger and better screen... also FM is integrated in the Zune...
@#$(& anti-microsoft haters... the only reason why they hate this is just because it has the microsoft logo.. regarless of the number of people that worked hard to make it or how great the product is... the same hate they have for the xbox 360... they have 0 credibility and should be hated with passion... seriously. as much as the talibans.. lol.. well maybe not that much.

Kholinar6781d ago (Edited 6781d ago )

I agree that people jump on this too quickly. Though the original zune was a marketing nightmare, it did have some good features. It's hard though. There were a lot of other players with as many features (like iriver, etc.). Competing with Apple requires an approach that's more than just addition of features.

"question... did you know that Zune is the 2-3rd in terms of marketshares after the ipod and came out less than 1 year ago? what does that tell us about you? I think you should be the one being congratulated..."

Got any current numbers? The only ones I've found were either hd based or showed the zune's #3 (shipped) numbers in a .3% lead over creative, which is statistically within the margin of error. Anyway, regardless of placing they're not doing anything to threaten even a percent of apple's (over 80%) marketshare and larger mindshare. I'd love to think that the zune 2 will do better. Some competition might help apple improve even more.

What seems a little unsettling is ms's choice to just ignore everything about it's competition.

Btw... it is easy to be a microsoft hater, but that's only microsoft's fault. Apple asks for discontent on occasion, but microsoft's been making a business of it for almost 20 years.

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riksweeney6781d ago

Does the Zune has Gapless Playback?

No? Oh well, looks like I'll stick to my ageing iRiver with Rockbox...

FordGTGuy6780d ago (Edited 6780d ago )

Lossless Audio in the specs dumbass.

Lossless Audio = Gapless Playback. get over it.

ShadoWulf6780d ago

That doesn't mean gapless playback. And no, it does not. That's one of the only things Zune owners have asked to have and Microsoft hasn't delivered.

riksweeney6779d ago

Congratulations, you're officially a moron

JosefTor6781d ago

I actually can't believe that bladestar is getting disagrees. It is weird that people are so against certain companies. I can see people not liking a product line but it is rediculous that it carries over to the whole brand. Take me for instance... I'm not too big a fan of the PS3 but I love their cameras, cell phones, and walkmans.

Both Microsoft and Apple both have their flaws and both overcharge and have set some bad precedents at some point. I don't think Ipod are flawless (I own a nano)... I personally know people on their 4th Ipod because their other Ipods broke.

Sorry but I just hate generalized comments that are useless. It is good that Zune 2 has come out. We should all hope the Zune, the Zen, and whatever other listening device is able to make a dent on Apple's marketshare. We need competition so that prices are driven down.
-Joe

n4gTurnsU_WickedGay6781d ago

the hdd space is the only compliant i have about my zune. i like the software, i download a lot of music so paying a monthly fee instead of per album saves me lots of money. also if you don't download a ton of tunes you can pay per song or album if you want, the monthly fee is optional.

the zune has a bigger screen, no annoying wheel, and there is no conversion so uploading is faster.

i will defiantly consider buying one of these new zunes.

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Top Racers Need Top Gear – Introducing the Forza Horizon 6 Limited Edition Controller and Headset

Omar writes: "With the Horizon Festival coming to breathtaking Japan, you’ll need the essential gear to prove you’ve got what it takes to become a Horizon Legend as you cruise, drift and explore an open world full of spectacular driving experiences. That’s why we’re happy to announce the newest Limited Edition Xbox Wireless Controller and Wireless Headset collection, featuring inspired designs from Forza Horizon 6. The bright cyan and lime colorways celebrate the Horizon Festival’s recognition of iconic cars and hit music, with special features that are sure to impress any collector."

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EasySMX D05 review

You can get Hall effect controllers slightly cheaper, but you'd struggle to find as feature-rich a package without some heavy, heavy sales.

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"It's Just So Lame" - RTGI Modder Thinks DLSS 5 Is Impressive But Shares AI Slop Sentiment

Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.

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CrimsonWing6932d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger32d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard32d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer32d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee32d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger32d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33632d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee32d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k432d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33632d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher32d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3432d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger32d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!