Is this a fair or even relevant comparison? The Epic demo is ostensibly running on hardware that nobody owns.

They miss the point. As someone who did PC gaming for a decade before switching over completely to PS3, the key advantage consoles have is ease of use – no install problems, graphics card compatibility issues, etc

And also the fact that while PC graphics are still superior, PS3 graphics are “good enough” for immersion. You couldn’t say that 7 years ago for PC versus PS2 for instance, PS2 and even xbox graphics were not just weaker, the amount of jaggies and low resolution was awful compared to 2004-era PC rigs. Might change with BF3 and other 2011-12 games as the PC may again offer graphics and features way beyond PS3

PS1,2,3,4(don't matter) v PC is like Mark Zuckerberg v Chuck Norris

However, it's nice to see that the PS3 can hold its own against the new Epic Engine.

Edit: Disagree all you want. At the end of the year, GoTY is going to come down between PC and PS3. Mark my words.

Dumb comparison, no facial comparison to GOW3 or MGS4(3years old), compared to a more than a year old game and compared to an incomplete game that is still 9 months away.

@Chromer

Thank you...another example of the lows N4G will go to approve these senseless articles. The PS3 cannot hope to compete with a next gen engine...and that's a PS3 supporter telling you this. FFS quit the whack articles already!!

the PS3 actually gives it a fight

Getting the obvious out of the way: the Epic Engine looks better.

BUT, you have to admit, considering Epic are calling this NEXT GENERATION graphics... The PS3 holds up!

It's something not entirely impossible to do with a lot of spit and polish, the DX11 is always going to look better, but this isn't a leap say from PS2 to PS3.

The new Epic Engine reminds me of Metro 2033.

I dont get it....

Why? Why????

Why are you comparing a PC render to a PS3 render????????????????

It's not fair!!!!

*cuddles with my ps3* its okay..its okay..daddy's got you

What a fun article!

Over £1000 worth of GPU vs a £250 PS3

I game probably 60% on console and 40% PC - and I prefer the look of many PS3 games. If we're talking solely about graphics it isn't about about overall resolution, or even about texture resolution in most cases - it's about art direction.

I think the best looking game I have seen is Uncharted 2, before that it was probably Gears 2. Killzone 3 looks great, but no doubt a PC FPS would whip it - but does that detract from the fun of the game? I know a PC could churn out a higher res, more detailed version of God of War 3 - but the fact is there is no comparison right now on the PC to that particular game.

I find it pretty amazing that a console that costs less than a single top end GPU can hold it's own so well. In many ways this is a sad reflection on PC exclusives, and a sign that most PC games are being built with consoles in mind.

don't see the point of this comparison.
obviously epics NEW engine looks better. derp.

let's see a 360 comparison.

..which claimed the Ps3 cant do DX10 or HDR/AA together.

And now they compare DX11 to Ps3 games.

What big fat joke this corrupt media is!!!

I have to say if that's the PC's best graphics, then for £250, the PS3 certainly gives it a run for its money.

We've never had a generation where consoles came closer to matching the graphics of a PC.

In the name of fairness, I would like to see that UE4(?) engine demo running on PS3, just to see how it could cope.

Whoa...Heavy rain looks like shit in this comparsion.

Well that was a bit of a worthless comparsion. Why compare pc grapics to console. Thats DX11 tech right there. That will not be seen on console this generation and the next gen could be as much as three years away.

PC gamers will have the benitfit of this way before any console gamer. Compare xbox to ps3 not pc to ps3 thats just unfair tbh. This is not what having Gears of war on your xbox brings you im afraid.

epic likes to toot their horn about their AMAZING engine, but most of the time their games look nothing like they were supposed to utilizing the specific engine. so epic should just take their engine and shove it. when they make an actual game that looks better than a ps3 exclusive while running that engine. then they can praise it all they want but until then, they just need to shut up

Soooo my question is how will the engine works for the xbox 360. The processing power works good for CPU with video cards more memory etc. For people who has sparring money will it be a "Must buy" or lets just keep comparing games so people can get the point.

Heavy Rain looks washed out and lifeless and it always has looked washed out and lifeless. The tech demo is far more impressive than anything scene this gen.

Fanboys need to hush up and sit down.

You know all things considered I assumed the PS3 would look much worse considering that it is running on technology from 2005. If higher fidelity means production time and costs will go up even more, I'm actually pretty happy where we are at in the graphics department.

Comments are made like if a 360 fan had posted those comparison just to flamebait. Guys, it's a nextgen engine, it's supposed to be more powerful than the PS3 and 360. 3way-sli nvidia cards are surely more powerful than the home consoles we got right now. I'm just glad to see the advancement in graphic.

The only thing that's stopping us from getting graphics like that is material and manufacturing cost. Video cards were already much more advance when the 360 and PS3 came out, but the price would have been very high to add it to the build of a home console. So we can see all we want, but were ain't gonna get this at a reasonable price for at least 1-2 years AT least!

but again, very impressive engine. can't wait to try this out in a couple of years.

Honestly, it's not that big a difference. Considering a new system to run the little difference would probably cost 400 or more and I already can get close with what I already have I'd say no thanks. It's not enough of a difference for me to invest in. Maybe devs should try to reach the best of whats already out (PS3) before they say they need a new system. Do they need a new system to finally reach PS3 graphics?

PS3 not looking that bad and Nathan looking a lot like Frank Lampard in that pic.

All I can say is why the hell are they looking at 'next gen" when they haven't even come close to maxing out "this gen".. on consoles OR PC! :/

Typical PC developer in pocket of card manufacturers... "come on lets all spend £400 quid on a new card.. Yaaaaaaay"... NOT!!

>_<

Look at the last comparison pic, the guys jacket looks like it's made out of cardboard whereas Drake is wearing an actual cloth look shirt.

I can do without another generation of plastic looking characters. I rather Crytek's, Frostbite 2, or the Rage engine.

The fact that the PS3 are running games beyond its years proves that it's a powerhouse console. I'm sure PS3 can handle the New Unreal Engine just fine..I dunno about the other console though.. :)

What a living jackass the auther of this article is... Jesus!!!. Any fool with a degree I see gets hired to write wet sh*t....

This idiot is comparing a clearly PC (a powerful one at that) driven demo to compare to the PS3... really. I am sure if any of the 1st and 2nd party developers for Sony was to run their engines on a PC it would be on par or surpass Epic's offering.

Oh wow was that really running on TRI SLI 580? I thought when they said "next gen" they meant the 500 series Nvidia GPU's. Apparently they are just completely skipping that and moving on to the newest ones. Seriously, who spends $1500 on GPU's? I spent $500 and thought that was crazy.

WOW THESE IDIOTS DONT EVEN REALIZE THEIR JUST COMPLIMENTING THE PS3 AND ITS EXCLUSIVES!

Comparing a tech demo to a real game? How pathetic. Not one game will even come close to looking that from Epic on the 360. Look at the current Epic games now and compare them to their tech demo. Sober up dummy!

LOL WUT???
A brand new, cutting edge PC tech demo versus an antiquated 5 year old console?!
AHAHAHAHA

I feel like total f*cker tonight because of all my negative comments on N4G but seriously..this article..sight..

Sorry but those games are not even close.. They look great which is not a surprise because of the power behind PS3 but still. Those screens about what the games can look in the future are just mind blowing! All the lighting and all.. <3

Pointless... Yeah, the PS3 games still look incredible. But those new Unreal shots look much, much better. Those reflections in the puddles on the street, the facial textures, no aliasing to be found...

We're years away from this being playable but I can't wait for the trailer to come so we can see it in action.

I don't know why people are obsessed with comparing, makes no since. However, the ps3 still looks good. Epic is just predicting what the next gen console graphics would look like running on UE3, not 4. More likely this is probably a new ip for the next xbox.

Could be just a tech demo,Remember when they showed a tech demo footage in 2004/2005 on the UE3 with strange gothic buildings, and beast. Turned out to be gears of war.

To people that disagree with the information on these links are complete fools to think they know more then ibm who clearly did all the grunt work on the designed & others that have lots experience spent programming on the cell architecture.

http://www.alphaworks.ibm.c...

http://www.blachford.info/c...

PlayStation 3 - Physics Effects SDK DifInfo:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

PS3 Physics demo:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

UNCHARTED 2 Mastering The Cell:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also People said the same crap about PS2 that it exceeded it's limits then came along god of war 2,tekken 5,gran turismo 4 ect..& proved people wrong so expect the same result with PS3 before it's all said & done.

And the computer that will run that and make it look that good will probably be around the $299 mark also.;)

@bowlingotter...2006's resistance fall of man,2007's uncharted,2008's metal gear solid 4,2009's uncharted 2,2010's god of war 3,2011's killzone 3 ect...the games speak for themselves & haters continue to hate & PS3's userbase continues to grow!

there we go again, they are not comparing the system vs the engine they are comparing game that are coming out on 2011 and game that already came out like killzone 3. who create this post should've name it Unreal engine vs Ps3 exclusive engines that would've been better because they are comparing their own engine like the one that uncharted 3 is using vs the tech demo, stop being a fan boy and ignorant. also the pc always going to have the best graphics for any game because they can run the engine to the fullest.

prove me wrong

LOL! This is next gen muscle. No console can match it.

Wow PS3 Have Next Gen Graphics

i seriously cant believe some of you think the PS3 'holds its own' here lol.

a few things:

1. all of those PS3 screens are from pre-rendered cutscenes. the Uncharted shot is a higher resolution model thats used for cutscenes.

2. all of those 'screens' are reduced from native size to like 400x300, making them look more detailed than in their full resolution. keep them in their native resolutions though and you will see all the aliasing, low res textures, and low res geometry on the PS3 screens, whereas the PC Unreal ones will look just as good as they do in the downsized pics, only theyll be probably 4x the size of the PS3 screens natively.

3. heavy rain is like one big cutscene. when theres little to no player interacttion, all the processing is dedicated to making it look good because everythings scripted. same with uncharted. the tech demo for unreal is what theyre saying graphics will be like in real time.

4. these are carefully selected PS3 screens vs just any old shots from the tech demo. when you see these PS3 games in motion, they look vastly different than they do in picture perfect promo shots with 16xMSAA applied and extra post processing effects.

the PS3 is no more powerful graphically than the 360, and BOTH of the current gen consoles cant hold a candle to this unreal tech demo. why? because this tech demo is literally a generation or 2 ahead of these consoles. itd be running on multiple top of the line GPUs with probably 8+gb of RAM. artistically you might think 'yeah the PS3/360 can hang with it', but technically theres not a hope in hell they can. there would be more polygons in that guys nose in the tech demo than in an entire scene in Killzone 3/Gears of War 3/Heavy Rain/Uncharted 3.

Ohohohoohoh!

Cliffy B must need to go powder his little nose! The next gen started when Sony SAID it would.

hahah!

If you're actually considering the effects being rendered like the bokeh depth of field, the PS3 images cannot compete, aside from that last Nathan Drake CGI shot.

PS3 fanboys are getting overly defensive, because even games like Crysis cannot truly compete with the effects being rendered in this tech demo.

This not next gen graphics at all

Just see the difference between Final Fantasy VII tech demo and real exlusive ps3 games it just next levels

Im sorry Im not Impress at all with those screen's (hit the disagree I dont care) those pic's are a little bit further along than PS3..that's kind of weak..& PS3 is not even at it's peak yet..Im sorry to me that's not next-gen..if that is that's kind of sad..this gen is the mold of what's to come..& that's not what's to come...

unreal smokes ps3 engines. Not even close.

im pretty sure a 4 year 8800 ultra could render that in 720p, but in not in dx11. but it still look as good with lower fps.

when you set up sli graphics cards or xfire all it does it improves the framerates and not the graphics.

?? nah im sorry the best game this gen with the unreal engine to me is GEARS PERIOD! & Batman Arkam Ayslum...nothing more...and if GG went multi-spread with their engine it will be way better with game's...everything look's shiny & plastic & stiff with their engine just my opinion...

I'm sorry but this article, why? They're comparing brand new tech to older tech... sounds nonsensical and asinine to me.

Yeah, right. Comparing prerendered not ingame shit from Sony is FAIR. Some of HR screens are real, but the Uncharted one is definitely NOT ingame, people, are you blind?

wow comparing pc screenies to ps3 ones, how unfair can it get, lol now try comparing 360 graphics to this lot for even worse graphics than ps3

lol why put heavy rain? one of the crappiest graphics.....

put up gow3,uc anything else...but the screens up there both ps and the other thing w/e it is-even though theyre detailed- they still dont like anything "real"

wow , nice :) , but what console that have epic engine ?.. and what is the game they comapared with ? ..

ps3 is very old but still have the best graphic games , look at uncharted 2-3 , heavy rain , god of war 3 , mgs 4 . the last gaurdian , Final fantasy versus , AGENT...etc
just imagin these games on the pc with this engine :D and i mentioned AGENT even though we didn't see anything from it because rockstar is making it and w eall know rockstar , they are one of the best developers and we all know it's going to be a beast , they are working on it for along time ago...

if they are comparing this engine to the ps3 just to low it then why don't you compare halo or any xbox360 game and see what would happen....

Can I also make comparisons to somehow elevate my console of choice?

Yeah its just insane to compare, it was real-time only achievable on PC.

GTX 580 - 1581Gflop/s SP and roughly 515Gflops DP
GTX 580 Tri SLi - 4743Gflop/s SP and roughly 1545Gflops DP
PS3 - 218Gflops SP and roughly 75Gflops DP
360 - 115Gflops SP and guessing 57.6Gflops DP

All these are theoretical peak performance.
Scaling will not be perfect in the real world in SLi, although Nvidia claims on certain synthetic benchmarks result are correct.

WTF is this? Really? WOW!!

Disney doesn't exactly have the best rep when it comes to partaking in gaming. They've built studios just to shut em down, not to mention just how much of an over the shoulder nuisance they are. If Epic wants to see Unreal Engine be dismantled and lose its hold on the industry then by all means. Also say goodbye to Fortnite because they will definitely kill it off with all the horrible decisions they'll force onto Epic.

I'll take worst ideas ever conceived for 500, Alex!

I wouldn’t want them to start injecting their agendas and politics in an already charged / filled environment . If they had a track record of offering quality over politics it wouldn’t have bothered me much . But knowing they could buy any big dev out of the blue is kinda scary .

Nah. Might as well as throw other big corporations while we’re at it. Why not Apple? Why not Netflix? Why not ATT?

The implications of this would be earth shattering for the games industry.

UE5 has replaced pretty much all engines at this point and even custom in house engines have largely disappeared in favour of UE5 imagine if Disney come in and pull a Unity move to change per download and that's just scratching the surface

I want to see a day where Disney no longer exists.

Uhm...no ,they should not

My Spidey sense is tingling.

Have you seen how badly they've messed up all the IPs they own? I don't think they need to buy anymore.

I don’t care about Fortnite but I don’t want Disney neat any more video game companies

I do not support this acquisition. Disney has already tried running a gaming division and they shut down Disney Interactive in 2016. Nothing good will come from them buying Epic games as much of the industry relies on Epic games as they are now.

Disney buys up Epic they will just shut them down after a while. Disney shut down LucasArts their motto is just license the character out and have someone like say EA make a game around lets say Mickey Mouse. Epic is better off on their own.