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Epic: We still get a buzz from platform exclusives

We've "really treasured" Microsoft partnership, says exec producer

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Shanks5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

The Gears of War franchise will eventually find it's way to the PS3/PS4, no doubt about that. 3rd party exclusives are soon to be gone, it's just a matter of time.

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Zir05562d ago

I agree, this will be the last generation when they will happen. Gears 1,2 and 3 won't ever come to playstation since MS publishes them, but where ever the franchise goes next generation you can bet it will be, unless Epic loves MS marketing too much to give it up.

The same thing will happen to games like Agent and the core Metal Gear franchise too.

FailOverHero5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

Metal Gear is already coming to 360, at this point it is more wishful thinking that gears will go ps3 than it is metal gear coming to 360 esp since it is published by Konami not SONY

lodossrage5562d ago

Just look at the Mass Effect series and Ninja Gaiden Sigma

And the publishing notion doesn't mean anything. Just look how Tecmo got around it. Ninja Gaiden 2 was MS Published. Yet all Tecmo had to do was update the code, add extra weapons,playable characters, online, levels, update the graphics a bit, and finally rename it. Next thing you knew, Ninja Gaiden 2 was on the ps3 in the form of Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma

And sure, they MIGHT love MS advertising. But sometimes the revenue given from that isn't enough. With all the advertising MS gave Mass effect, the series still found its way to the ps3.

And Epic already told us THEY own the Gears IP. Not MS. So anything can change with that. It's their call

Active Reload5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

Sony isn't going to throw any cash at these guys the way MS will. Besides, Sony said it themselves that you guys weren't getting Gears.

khan_saab5562d ago

the core metal gear franchise will not come to xbox because sony pitched in on the tab for developing that game a lot and that secured the exclusive of that game for that console in a way. it would be "politically" damaging for Konami to publish it on Xbox

humbleopinion5562d ago

@ lodossrage
Wait, are you actually saying that both Ratchet and Resistance series will find their way to the Xbox since "the publishing notion doesn't mean anything"?

I wouldn't make any assumptions on any exclusive game losing exclusivity since we don't know what the deal is. What happens with future games is irrelevant since IPs can always be sold to another publisher.

leeger5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

@humbleopinion
You see the difference with regards to Resistance and Ratchet and Clank and many other exclusive franchises of Sony is that Sony don't just publish those games they actually own the ip, meaning they can ask any developer to a create a game under that ip, look at the ratchet, Resistance, GOW games on the psp, they were developed by different developers as oppose to Insomniac and Santa Monica, while Sony can sell those ip's to other publishers like what they did to Crash Bandicoot, but as of the moment those games are not going anywhere outside sony .
EDIT: Oops I guess Sony never owned the Crash Bandicoot IP, which made me think, did SOny ever sold one of it's ip to another publisher?

Lucreto5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

@leeger

Sony didn't own the ip for Crash Bandicoot they published it. It was owned by Universal interactive studios which was then bought by Activision.

Edit: As far as I know Sony never sold an IP.

lodossrage5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

You need to learn the difference between OWNING AN IP and PUBLISHING ONE.

Sony OWNS THE IPS Resistance and Rachet and Clank.

So yeah, AGAIN, publishing rights means NOTHING. OWNERSHIP of the IP is what matters. And EPIC owns the GEARS OF WAR IP, not Microsoft

The ONLY way you'll see Resistance or Rachet and Clank on the 360 is if Sony SELLS the IPS

Inside_out5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

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Bulletstorm should of been exclusive on 360. Why they went with EA is beyond me, especially with EA advertising Crysis, Deadspace and Bulletstorm and recently Battlefield all at the same time...big mistake. The PS3 fan base is all wrong for great games like this and the die hards spend all their time trashing anything that is not exclusive to PS3.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

ON TOPIC: Gears Of War is easily the best new ORIGINAL franchise this gen. It's not a Indiana Jones rip off or world war 2 COD wannabe war game.

Gears 4 will be on a new console...you will see why this week when Epic demo's Unreal 4. If M$ is first with the new machines...more exclusive title's will be developed AGAIN on the lead platform...Gears 3 sure is real pretty on 360...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Mass Effect is made by Bioware who was bought by EA AFTER the game was released on 360...it was never exclusive and was suppose to be a trilogy. The demographic for a mature, advance RPG like Mass Effect is on 360, everybody knows that. The sales will reflect that when part 3 makes it's appearance.

Gears and M$ have been perfect together and Gears has sold 12++ million as a result BUT Epic is a third party dev so anything is possible....you know, like Insomniacs next game...O_o

lodossrage5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

you're "personal opinion" doesn't count as fact.

You saying such and such a franchise is a waste on another console just because YOU don't like it is fanboyism.

Secondly, unless you just started gaming THIS generation, you'd know there is nothing original about gears. The plot isn't original nor is the gameplay. Heck, in fact, the cover system gameplay was in ps2 games last gen even. Winback and .killswitch ring any bells?

And even you saying "it's the best" is your own opinion, not fact.

And it makes no difference if Mass Effect went multiplatform after EA bought out Bioware or not. The bottom line is that if ms OWNED the IP, which they don't, EA buying them wouldn't have effected console exclusivity. So AGAIN, like I previously stated twice already, PUBLISHING means nothing. OWNING the IP is what matters. If SONY or MICROSOFT don't OWN the IPS, the developers are free to do whatever they so choose

And yeah Insomniac's next game IS multiplatform. Same way Bungie's next game IS multiplatform. So again, what's your point?

captain-obvious5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

Epic and Sony sure are getting closer
i mean its obvious since we saw them at that NGP event

but i still dont think gears is going to the PS3
but still you might never know
i might be wrong and gears do end up on the PS3

we may never know
only time well tell

TheFreak5562d ago

lol Cez of rage got owned by lodossrage

HolyOrangeCows5562d ago

"The PS3 fan base is all wrong for great games like this and the die hards spend all their time trashing anything that is not exclusive to PS3"
Are you seriously that emotionally involved in the internet fanboy wars? Do you REALLY believe that N4G's community reflects all Ps3 gamers?

"Gears Of War is easily the best new ORIGINAL franchise this gen. It's not a Indiana Jones rip off or world war 2 COD wannabe war game"
You obviously started playing games this gen if you believe Gears is original. And LOL @ you talking like Killzone started this gen (and calling it a "COD wannabe"). You are one lost fanboy.

No Way5562d ago

Mass Effect went to the PS3 because EA purchased BioWare..

No Way5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

You can't say Gears isn't original cause other games had similar concepts..
You could pick and game now a days, and find an older game that is similar.
Rather they be similar in artwork, story, concepts, etc..

No Way5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

Anyway, go Gears.. Woooo! lol

lodossrage5561d ago (Edited 5561d ago )

"@lodossrage -
You can't say Gears isn't original cause other games had similar concepts..
You could pick and game now a days, and find an older game that is similar.
Rather they be similar in artwork, story, concepts, etc.."

Oh really, if other games have similar concepts and gameplay then you tell me, just what makes Gears of war original. You my friend just pretty much DEFINED what it means to NOT be original. So what you're saying makes no sense. You need to look at your dictionary and find the meaning of the word original

Now true enough, not many things are original these days. But that's exactly the point I'm making to start with.

Secondly, as I'll state YET AGAIN, EA BUYING Bioware would NOT HAVE CHANGED COSOLE EXCLUSIVITY if MS had OWNED the IP. Buying Bioware would have NO impact on Mass Effect being exclusive IF MICROSOFT OWNED THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

It's not a hard concept to understand ppl. Look at it this way, notice how Bungie is now a multiplatform company. They made Halo. Ok, now even though they made Halo, they CAN'T bring to to any other consoles. Why you ask? Because MS OWNS THE IP. Understand yet? Even if someone buys Bungie, guess what, same rule applies. They WON'T be able to make any other Halo game without MS approval on the matter. Why? Simple and AGAIN. Because THEY OWN THE IP.

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BLACKBOIJONES5562d ago

We do not need gears on the ps3 because the ps3 has better games than gears.I bought a 360 for playing gears, if u want to play gears u can do what i did.

It feels good to b back after my 30 day ban >:)

Pootangpie5562d ago

to slap some sense into you

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guigsy5562d ago

Shame all you fanboys are missing out on all these great games in the name of console loyalty.

Optical_Matrix5562d ago

When you focus on one platform, its nice to see how far you can push it without worrying about another platforms limitations in other area's be it PS3 or 360. So, I can understand why devs like platform exclusives. Gives them a chance to really show what they can do.

Kran5562d ago

Epic + Sony partnership anyone? :)

The Meerkat5562d ago

I want Epic to force MS to make the 720 with specs that Epic want. Just like they did with the 360.

512mb was needed 5 1/2 years ago, but now we need 2gb.

MS could promise Epic they will give them the specs they want in exchange for continued exclusives.

vishant1015556d ago

we need 8 tbh so the consoles do not fall behind pcs as fast

B1663r5562d ago

There is already a Sony+Epic partnership... Way way back in 2007 Epic was having trouble getting their game engine to work on the PS3, and Sony lent Epic a number of engineers so that the PS3 could have some games.

That is why games built on Unreal now look almost as good as the XBox version...

But I am pretty sure Gears will be a 360 exclusive forever...

ChristianGamer5562d ago

Thanx for helping xbox reach over 2 times the install base of the original console.
Looking forward to future Epic titles of the third person variety. Maybe an adventure game with less meaty protagonists and more acrobatics

macky3015562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

I think you can thank RROD a bit more.
kekekeke,...

FailOverHero5562d ago

Except microsoft give you a new 360 for RROD, they don't count that as consoles shipped. SONY on the other hand force you to either repair for a price or buy a new one if it is out of 1 year warranty.
Unless of course you're saying 360 is still at 25 million sold and is regularly beating PS3 in the software sales department. You mean to tell me EA makes more money off of 360 even with less consoles?? It is either or...make your pick

White-Sharingan5562d ago (Edited 5562d ago )

@FailOverHero- Not everyone replaces their console for free with MS. Most people lose their receipts or their warranty has been expired. I know a couple of people who has bought over 3 Xbox 360 consoles because it has RROD on them. The fact of the matter is, RROD has helped them a little bit with their sales. Another example would be me, I sold my damaged 360 as "working" on GameStop and bought a new one ;)....twice (thank goodness my elite hasn't died)

Oh and about the sales, people who buy a PS3 can have different tastes than those who buy a 360 (I would also say the Wii, but that's a bigger difference). Most people who bought a PS3 are for the amazing exclusives it offers, while those who bought a 360 are for third party games (I mean seriously, MS has barely any first party games, wtf). It could also be the fact that developers are lazy asses and most games tend to look a bit better on 360 than on PS3, so the games don't sell as well as on 360 because of them not being committed to all consoles equally.

Edit: And to be clear, not all third party titles sell better on 360. The most recent example would be Marvel vs Capcom 3, which is selling at a faster rate on PS3 :)

B1663r5562d ago

@White-Sharingan,

Max never asked me for a receipt, they just replaced it no questions asked.

And still to this day, if you call Max he will give you a new xbox if its manufacture date is less than three years out, no questions asked.

gcolley5562d ago

are you guys still arguing about RROD??? get over it already.why am i even commenting on fanboy crap

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Bathyj5562d ago

Of course they do. I dont care what anyone sez, exclusives are the best games.

maverick405562d ago

I agree. In terms of quality there are is no comparrisson.

Lawliet5562d ago

Well I kinda have to agree, but saying exclusives are THE best is just pure subjective. You can find MORE quality games in exclusivity, that is how I would put it as fact.. Multiplat can be just as good as exclusives, however you can't find many unless you only own a platform or Xbox360(no fanboy duh can't deny the exclusivity is getting drought!), that's when you realize multiplats is so precious lol.

PandaJenkins5562d ago

Personally I don't think exclusives = higher quality. I don't care if a PS3 exclusive enhances more graphical power it all comes down to the story, gameplay and such. The things that actually make the game worth playing. I think my goty for ever year this gen has been multi-platform purely because I have overall liked those games for what they did as a game.

FailOverHero5562d ago

Yep. I mean Afrika blew me away. Too Human as well. And White Knight Chronicles was simply teh best.

flyingmunky5562d ago

Take your sarcasm elsewhere please. I thoroughly enjoyed White Knight Chronicles and put over 500 hours into it.

I'm sorry but you need to start playing the games you like and stop using metacritic to make your decisions for you.

PandaJenkins5562d ago

And I liked Too Human. It was aimed at hack'n'slash loot fans. I swear everyone expected something different -_-.

Firstkn1ghT5562d ago

LOL! Name one exclusive that's going to match Battlefield 3 or Skyrim?

Lawliet5562d ago

I'll put my money on Resistance3 , Gears3 , Uncharted3 to shit on Battlefield3 anyday! I love Oblivion so I'll leave that game alone..

White-Sharingan5562d ago

Uncharted 2 says hi :)
MGS4 says hi :)
Demons Souls says hi :)
Uncharted 3 will say hi :)

that's not to say Skyrim won't be amazing, IT WILL BE, the same level of epicness as the ones mentioned above (not better or worse)

maverick405562d ago

you have seen 2 or 3 screen shots of each game and you think they can't be beat?.....grow up.

Aloren5562d ago

Well, actually those who can't help but to masturbate whenever they hear "exclusive" are the ones who need to grow up. You should judge a game on its own merit, not on the size of the "exclusive" written on the box.

Look at KZ3. Is it good ? yeah, sure it is, it's great. But that doesn't change the fact that ME2 and Dead Space 2 scored better, and Bulletstorm, MvsC3, or Fight Night Champion scored just as good.

Most great games are not exclusive.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio22d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing22d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit22d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing22d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay24d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn225d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn224d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown25d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay24d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay24d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac24d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger25d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300025d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde25d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde24d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7526d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_24d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.