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Understanding ownership - We Should Stand Against PS3 Hacking

When we buy a house on a plot of land, we don’t own the mineral rights even if we ‘own’ the land.

A local coal mine does not have to seek out the permission of the numerous owners of all the different columns of rock they are tunnelling through, nor can the ‘owner’ of the surface tunnel sell the coal or oil that might be there, unless they have a separate right to do so.

Even with the surface ownership, we cannot do what we like.

Almost all countries have some sort of building/planning control, and that is a good thing. Maybe it is annoying to us, but it also stops our neighbours doing things we might hate. In effect we have a licence to use the land a certain way from the country in which it sits, but we call it ‘ownership’.

Buying a PlayStation 3 (for example), also does not give me unrestricted ownership of it.

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Nineball21125576d ago

That's a good analogy about the land ownership.

I believe that we DO in fact own the hardware but we license and do NOT own the software.

GrieverSoul5575d ago (Edited 5575d ago )

The land ownership nailed it!
I have a house with lots of space. If I want to build a skyscrapper there, city hall wont let me! Why?! Its my land! I bought it!! This thing is, that land is mine but I cant do whatever I want with because there are rules. I signed those when I made the ownership deal.

Thats it! Im going to make a rap video, ask for donations and sue the government! That will show people! If I win, dont let the shadow of my skyscrapper blocking your house sun light bother you okay?! /s

shooterexpert5575d ago

Hackers do own the software though.

Hacked ps3s are running custom firmware no ?

Firmware made by the hackers not altered versions of sony software.

zag5575d ago

But the CFW is orginal firmware modded.

Also CFW will be using a copyrighted key of Sony's to sign it so it will work.

For it to be completely custom CFW would have to completely replace the whole OS and not use any of Sony's OS in any form.

So it can't play PS games it can't use the hyper-visor, in other words it can't work or look the same at all.

Because if it did then it'd be using pantents that Sony own for the PS OS.

So CFW isn't the hackers own OS at all.

MrBeatdown5575d ago

Custom firmware is just Sony's firmware with a few alterations, to my understanding. They don't start from scratch.

Makes me wonder why that in itself isn't considered piracy.

GrieverSoul5575d ago

You got it wrong as other members said.
OFW is Official FirmWare made by SONY. CFW is the Customized FirmWare made from the OFW.

I said many times in N4G that if hackers want to be good guys in this one, I want them to make a new OS for the PS3. One that would give benefits to the console. But no! They want emulators and run custom programs OVER SONY OS! SONY OS is an intelectual propperty. You buy a movie and the first thing it appears on screen after popping the disc is a copy disclaimer. You bought the product but are subject to conditions from the provider. I dont know whats so hard to understand about this.

Octo15576d ago

Good read but you'll still get these morons that will say it's stupid and one sided.

FantasyStar5575d ago

That went over my head. What is the analogy here?

Titanz5575d ago (Edited 5575d ago )

Wii suffers the worst, yet we hardly see any articles concerning the topic.

PlayerX5575d ago

Because this is a Ps3 only site lol.

Biggest5575d ago

Because PS3 owners care more than Wii owners and 360 owners.

badz1495575d ago

when Wii hackers start stealing Nintendo's code and use it to run the Wii unmodded, then will the same issue be raised! but it's not only about the PS3 on here, there were numerous stories about R4 cards for the DS and banned 360 console in the past. it's just that this is recent and a lawsuit is currently taking place in court!

Mahr5575d ago

"when Wii hackers start stealing Nintendo's code and use it to run the Wii"

Modders have been using the Wii's encryption keys (literally the exact kind of keys geohot released) to sign custom Wii applications for *years*.

Sony even posted the Wii private keys on the internet when they put all their evidence against Hotz online. It was hilarious.

rockleex5575d ago

If that is true, then it basically shows that Nintendo either doesn't care enough about it... or doesn't think they can do anything about it in court.

Sony knows they can do something about it because its clearly against the law.

Even if winning the case doesn't stop PS3 hacking from escalating, it will at least allow Sony to then go after more hackers who are using Sony's copyrighted information without Sony's consent.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot33d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle33d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7733d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer42d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde40d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy40d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12540d ago (Edited 40d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

Why did Sony push Shuhei Yoshida out of his role leading PlayStation's first-party games? He'd overseen some huge successes. Well, apparently, he didn't listen.

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Relientk7741d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga41d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199241d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga40d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman40d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger40d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box41d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion40d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7241d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7541d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit41d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14941d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7741d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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