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A Question of Morality: Console Hacking

PixlBit takes a critical eye to the current Sony GeoHot debacle and asks an important question: is console hacking immoral?

awiseman5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

Immoral? lol no, Console hacking has yeilded many great products. Would I do it? No but there's no denying the benefits

And props to the writer for pointing out that Pirating and Haking are 2 entirely different things.

yewles15588d ago

"Console hacking has yeilded many great products."

And not a single one that isn't already available on PC to begin with.

LeonVesper5587d ago (Edited 5587d ago )

It's not immoral to have the CFW. Morality comes into question the moment you use the backup utility for games that doesn't exist on a blu-ray disk that is sitting in your living room, bedroom, man(woman?) cave, et all.

Personally, I have nothing against hackers. I mean, if some hackers are intelligent enough to actually have a serious conversation with Sony with ways to talk about potential official firmware updates such as new software emulation to bring back the backwards compatibility, or talk to developers with existing code to modify existing games (Fallout, Call of Duty, Dragon Age, etc.), I would be delighted to see new innovations for the PS3 from the hacking and modding community. (Granted I still have my original 2007 20GB sitting next to my Slim 120GB.)

But, who am I kidding, the majority who do the CFW don't know two ways from Sunday how the code works. Just follow the instructions and hope your favorite hacker/modder is brewing up some FW that sates your instant gratification, without any appreciation towards the code and time involved to even make the CFW. Script Kiddies.

Cajun Chicken5588d ago

It is, if said console has market. Take the Dreamcast, great hacking community now, because it's no longer commercial. Hacking in the middle of a marketable lifespan is a ridiculous thing to do. Even if it is your own. Passing the instructions so further people can do what you do is also pretty damn illegal. If you do something with your console, shut up and don't give the secret recipe.

Games have a far bigger budget on consoles and a lot more to make up than that of a handheld. The effects of one hack and that change of sales can shut down multiple developers or cause them to struggle to put the money into expanding or developing new IP.

Case in point 1: Youtube; Someone uploads video of playing Super Mario Allstars rom on a emulator on a hacked PS3. Nintendo complain to Sony to act on this affecting sales of the Wii Mario Anniversary package and want to protect their IP on their systems. Thereby attempting to sue Sony.

Case in point 2: Copied game published by industry giant Activision or EA. Activison or EA inquire strongly about the state of sales over players on PS3. Sony is in positioned to be sued or lose support entirely. This has already actually ruined the monopoly of online games due to hacking and Sony has had to act on it fast.

Case in point 3: People buy PS3, nobody buys Playstation exlusives which developers are under the umbrella of Sony Computer Entertainment. Uncharted 3 comes out, doesn't get as many sales as sequel due to piracy and a great world wide leading developer such as Naughty Dog is forced to close.

Just think about the people being paid at the end of the day instead of having stuff you know very well you can do on what you're surfing N4G on right now.

Face it hacking supporters, your not going to be doing word processing or databases on the PS3 if it was allowed to be hacked. What on Earth would you be doing with it outside of that and further gaming?

Apotheosize5588d ago

I do believe you should be able to do what you want with things you own, but the moment you start affecting other people with the things you do is the moment you lose that right.

MWong5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

I gotta agree.

The problem with hacking that I have is the question where do your civil liberties begin and mine end? I buy games to enjoy certain experiences and have fun with my friends playing FPS's. However, if you hacking the game to give yourself "GOD Mode" or unlimited bullets ruining the game how is that right?

They unlocked hidden content in MvC3, while I don't support DLC, because most of it is already on the disc just locked or incomplete. I buy some of it because I like what is being offered. If developers see that their DLC is getting unlocked on one console why would they keep on supporting that console? The thing is most people see what they want and don't look at the entire picture.

earbus5587d ago

Well alot of ps2 are hacked but i guess that no longer matters it sold alot it sony should leave it hacked to make money selling consoles.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted44d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8544d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele43d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk43d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay43d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10144d ago (Edited 44d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit43d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg43d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10143d ago (Edited 43d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14944d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_57d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle57d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker57d ago (Edited 57d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit57d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog57d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_57d ago (Edited 57d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog57d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad57d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_57d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage57d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda57d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong83d ago

looks god awful on the base systems