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Is banning hackers the right solution?

The Sony against hackers war is very much alive and we have left to be wondering who is really winning it at this point. Last week Sony announced in their forums that they would start banning hackers from their Playstation Network but this week we have learned that hackers have developed a way to un-ban themselves and what is worst, they could use information from legitimate users to get them banned.

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LordMarius5548d ago

Why is this even a question?

"we have learned that hackers have developed a way to un-ban themselves and what is worst, they could use information from legitimate users to get them banned."

And that was proven false

Dante1125548d ago (Edited 5548d ago )

*Nintendo bans hackers*

"Oh well..."

*Microsoft bans hackers*

"Oh well..."

*Sony bans hackers*

~spits out Mountain Dew~ "...Wait, WHAT?!?! WHY? Was that necessary?"

Edit: Kickarss, that unban/ban thing was proven to just be a theory a hacker had in the very first article on it. That's why psxscene and ps3hax took it down.

http://streetskaterfu.blogs...

ChristianGamer5547d ago

Actually Microsoft bans hackers and the world turns against them and calls them greedy and people want to sue and everybody on the internet is on their side. Remember that lil debacle? Yeah so can it with the sony conspiracies

NewMonday5547d ago

If I remember correctly, MS was accused of using the ban to increase hardware sales just before the release of MW2. The fuss wasn't about their right to ban, which was fair game.

FailOverHero5547d ago (Edited 5547d ago )

Exactly, they were ACCUSED. It was a huge debate. But when Sony does it nobody is allowed to accuse them or debate and we somehow forget about MS banning debacle and claim that when they do it nobody says a thing. Just look at the comment above, completly neglects that when ms does it, it was a massive scandal. PS3 fanboys like to forget facts that do not support their conspiracy theory agenda
Microsoft were banning PIRATES, which is a GREAT thing and STILL they were gunned at! That's like crying foul when speed cops set up speed traps!

NewMonday5547d ago

Im getting confused, are we talking about pirates or hackers now?

ComboBreaker5547d ago (Edited 5547d ago )

Is it? Come on! Give me an answer here!

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kickarss5548d ago

We don't question the fact that Sony should do whatever is necessary to protect themselves and their game developers, we are just saying that if done incorrectly, it could cause more harm than good. Please read the whole article and not just the intro

beavis4play5547d ago (Edited 5547d ago )

i did read your story and several things jumped out that i'd like to bring up for a response. i'm just curious -
1. do you really believe that hackers can easily spoof legit accounts? from all of the info i've read it seems to be VERY difficult/if not impossible. it seems hackers would say this (even though they can't actually do it) as an attempt to make sony hesitate or stop the bans entirely. if someone is banned,i'm SURE they'll cry about doing nothing wrong.....hackers/pirates are an amusing bunch: they talk tough sitting alone with their equipment but when they're exposed and punished? they squeal like little babies.
2.in the article you said this: "Sony may well have a list of "suspect" consoles, but arbitrarily suspending PSN access without a proof of sustained usage would be an over-reaction. As a knock-on effect, it would obviously stop these people spending money in the PlayStation Store." - i disagree with this statement. most ps3 owners are decent people who want to play legally bought games and movies...go online....etc....etc. i don't care if it's short-term or sustained usage - bans have to occur. if they have proof - ban the console. and as far as sony gathering info? i'm sure the majority of legit users feel as i: they can moniter my account all they want. they can look at ANY info i have on my ps3. since i have NOTHING to hide - it means nothing to me. only the people who are doing something illegal/improper would be worried. and these people being banned are the ones who would NOT be buying things off of psn - they're the ones who would be working on STEALING off of psn. you don't even consider this in you article.

just some thoughts i had.

kickarss5547d ago

beavis:
Your points are very valid. Let me respond to this:
1 - At this point nobody knows if spoofing accounts is possible or not. However, Sony already sent official statements threatening people to ban them from the PSN, yet I am still waiting on a massive ban, and people with hacked consoles are still playing online. What leads me to think either Sony has all the information they need and are just waiting to have legal proof that your console is hacked and you have been on PSN to actually have a massive ban (which is a good thing!), or they can't really track hackers because hacked consoles can pose as legit users. This is why the spoofing argument was used in this article.
2 - I think you misunderstood what I wanted to say here. I was just mentioning that if Sony bans legitimate users in error, the trust that those legitimate users had on Sony and PSN will be gone and ultimately Sony will be hurt by this, since legitimate users will no longer be willing to spend money on Sony and PSN products.

beavis4play5547d ago

thanks for the reply!
i can only go by articles i read online - and i've been reading about people being banned from psn. sony could try and take the high road and announce (a few days before) that the massive banhammer is about to drop and give those who are doing the illegal stuff a chance to stop. however - when it comes down to it - the bottom line for me is to ban them however possible. i think all of this crap that hackers are doing is unnecessary as far as having an enjoyable experience with the system.
to those who say otherwise? i'd ask them why they don't develop their own hardware to manipulate instead of leeching off someone elses ability.
as far as #2 - i can see what you're saying. someone being punished for something that they didn't do is NEVER a good thing. in a way - those legit users should be just as (if not more) angry at the hackers - they're the ones who've created this mess. hopefully sony gets it straightened out and under control.

Silly gameAr5548d ago (Edited 5548d ago )

Haven't we been through this? That hacker baning/unbanning thing was bull. A hacker and his wishful thinking.

On a positive note, some friends tell me MW2 is a lot better online since the bans. I don't play it, but I'm happy for them because that's all they play.

Let's ask them if banning was the right move.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted4d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy853d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele3d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk3d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay3d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon1014d ago (Edited 4d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit3d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg3d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon1013d ago (Edited 3d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz1493d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_17d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle16d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit16d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog17d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog16d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad17d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_17d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage17d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda16d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong42d ago

looks god awful on the base systems