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PS3 Hackers vs Sony, The Common Misconceptions

A brief article outlining the common misconceptions behind recent discoveries and events surrounding the PlayStation network.

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MWong5551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

Very interesting read and cleared up a few bits of information put out in the last few days. I had a hard time believing the 3rd parties banning other users article.

happyface5551d ago

I hacked my ps3 but I haven't tried any of the hacks like the 3rd party control one so I dont know if they're bs or not

most hackers dont want to mess with other ps3 users, they just want free games!

KingDustero5551d ago

I posted the day the article came out that all of it was BS. The hackers were just trying to scare people. There was no proof in the article at all and it was just all theory.

A good amount of people are too gullible these days. I can't blame them though. Almost anything can be possible in theory now of days. It just doesn't mean it is right now.

Gothdom5551d ago

Everyone needs to read this.

CaptainMarvelQ85551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

Very informative
thank god about the banning legitimate users bit,i was afraid this'll have a very bad effect on Sony
Let hackers ban themselves

Christopher5551d ago

Kind of a very basic overview and doesn't even go into mentioning that Sony has IDS/IPS implemented to detect "spoofed" data, which is a huge hurdle for anyone to overcome when trying to bypass PSN security.

It does address the important fact that while people say they can do something in theory, it doesn't mean they have the necessary information to do as such. In this case, they still haven't broken the security protocols that Sony utilizes.

Furthermore, the strange thing here is that hackers are claiming this as something they can do with the PS3, yet the exact same thing could be said of Xbox 360 bans. The way that they ban consoles are exactly the same in theory, meaning it's on the end of the network that allows you to connect online. If this was something so easy to do, we would have already have seen this happen on the 360.

Essentially, this is just idiot hackers - I really wouldn't call them that in the first place - trying to put more bad press on the PS3. Hackers hate what Sony is doing, which is fighting them for modifying Sony IP and preventing the installation of illegal software, and we've seen more worthless news on "Hackers ruin the lives of everyone who doesn't hack on the PS3" just to keep drumming up bad press for the PS3 and make it seem like you should never log onto the PSN again.

It's childish, IMHO.

forcefullpower5551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

You are quite right the people that are screaming from the roof tops about what sony is doing is not the Modders than want to run Homebrew but the people that want to pirate games and play them online.

As most modders stay on 3.41 to run there homebrew. Why do you think you have not seen a 3.56 yet. Homebrewers have no interst in using the latest firmware.

beavis4play5551d ago

you seem quite reasonable in your post - so, i have an honest question for you - why would someone interested in homebrew buy a ps3 to run it? it's very accessible to run homebrew on a pc - so, why are these legit modders so hellbent on using the ps3 for it?

madpuppy5551d ago

@beavis4play, I think that the ability to have access to the Cell processor at a bargain price is one of the main reasons that Modders and organizations purchased the PS3. The ability to learn about the cell and, for the Navy, to create a cell Beowulf cluster supercomputer on the cheap.

Biggest5551d ago

I don't think that the Navy needs to hack their PS3s to make them run as clusters. So it still doesn't explain why a hacker would need it.

Christopher5551d ago

Re: Navy

They don't care about FW or anything PSN related. They've never updated their PS3s beyond what they originally received. They run OtherOS in a cluster farm environment.

This is the same for other supercomputing processes with the PS3.

The #1 use of PS3 in a cluster farm is for the extremely high level and fast processing of video/audio data. They're able to record a stream of video/audio data in real time, process various algorithms -- such as thermal image analysis and building/environment shape analysis -- against it, and then store the data for use later on (or in real time).

madpuppy5551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

So, I got disagrees because I said the Navy uses PS3's as a supercomputer cluster?

http://scitech.blogs.cnn.co...

And I am really getting sick and tired of people using the word "hacker" like it is a bad thing.

It really shows how stupid the media is and how easily they can demonize a word they mis-defined.

A hacker is a computer programmer...thats it, nothing more and nothing less.

the proper word for a bad guy hacker is a "cracker"...sheesh, doesn't anybody want to use the right word rather than being as ignorant as
Uwe Boll as well as other pathetic movie directors and writers that lack a clue!?!?

Mahr5550d ago (Edited 5550d ago )

"As most modders stay on 3.41 to run there homebrew."

Untrue. Most people in the modding community are on 3.55.

"Why do you think you have not seen a 3.56 yet. Homebrewers have no interst in using the latest firmware."

Again, untrue. We have seen 3.56 custom firmware. Unfortunately, unlike 3.55 firmware, there is currently no way to toggle between custom and official firmware at will, so installing it on the PS3 is a point-of-no-return move. It'll take time for a stable release to come about, if ever.

"why would someone interested in homebrew buy a ps3 to run it?"

No one buys a PS3 to run Homebrew; they put Homebrew on the PS3 because it vastly increases the system's functionality.

"it's very accessible to run homebrew on a pc"

Let me give you an example: PS3 Homebrew very greatly expands the range of PS1, PS2, and PS3 games -- legitimate, legally-purchased copies of them -- that I can play on a PS3.

"so, why are these legit modders so hellbent on using the ps3 for it?"

Because although we theoretically *could* use a PC to run those same games, the copies of them would certainly *not* fall into the category of 'legitimate and legally-obtained'.

That is therefore a suboptimal alternative.

beavis4play5550d ago

madpuppy - no hostility intended - but where i come from - a computer programmer is a computer programmer........and nothing more.

as far as the word "hacker" and what it connotes? ask 1000 people on the street- and hackers won't come off in a favorable light.
also - how you can propose such an outlandish story as to why people "hack" the ps3 is beyond me.

madpuppy5550d ago

beavis4play, just because you have decided to smugly step in line with the ignorance of Hollywood and News media does't lessen the value of my statements.
Big Media has created this disconnect with the true definition of the word "hacker", just because you never heard the word in a good light makes you either not very understanding of early and present "Computer programmer" subcultures or just too young to have ever heard the word in it's proper good light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

A hacker can be anyone who truly enjoys programming, for example people like Steve Wozniak and Bill gates are and were hackers.

matter of fact the creation of the Web can be attributed to hackers, as well a the free software movement. The large community of enthusiast programmers that have created Linux and the many free and OSS software that people use today.

as for the PS3 statements, people who like to tinker with their PS3 have that right, the only time that it is not right is when it is done with the intention to access unauthorized networks (PSN,XBL) or to be able to play copyrighted software illegally. other than that
you and I have the right to buy a PS3 and take it apart, smash it to pieces or cannibalize the parts to make something else.

Personally, I have no interest in doing any of those things, but, when the PS4 eventually comes out I would Love to convert one of my PS3's into a media center PC. I have no desire to pirate or Illegally download games but, I would like to extend it's use to a true media PC and Bluray player when I am done gaming with it.

Christopher5550d ago

***Let me give you an example: PS3 Homebrew very greatly expands the range of PS1, PS2, and PS3 games -- legitimate, legally-purchased copies of them -- that I can play on a PS3. ***

The problem is that those emulators are the exact same ones running on PCs, which aren't legal as it is. They're not just software emulators that allow you to pop in a PS2 game disc and play it on any PS3.

Mahr5550d ago (Edited 5550d ago )

"The problem is that those emulators are the exact same ones running on PCs"

I am not referring to emulators; even with Homebrew, something like PCSX2 is never going to run on a console.

I am referring to the PS3's basic backwards compatibility and game playing functions -- which you or anyone else can do *already*, albeit with rather unnecessary limitations (region locks, lack of English language settings, et cetera).

"They're not just software emulators that allow you to pop in a PS2 game disc and play it on any PS3"

Well, obviously. PS2 BC is only available on fats. In that regard, slims are a lost cause no matter what. Of course, there are still those obnoxious PS1 and PS3 restrictions that are present no matter which model one owns.

For instance, on an unmodded slim or fat, I would not be able to take a legitimate, legally-imported copy of Tales of Vesperia PS3 and patch it with a fan translation so that I can understand the story as I play it. This is not civilized.

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Da One5551d ago

very informative must read for all

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted5d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy855d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele4d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk4d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay4d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon1015d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit4d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg4d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon1014d ago (Edited 4d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz1494d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_18d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle17d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit17d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog18d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog18d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad18d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_18d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage18d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda17d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong44d ago

looks god awful on the base systems