they're no more powerful than they were in KZ2. good choice for the current map but on a bigger one it probably won't be as useful

THE RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH AND THE SHOTGUN RANGE IS TOO DAMN FAR!

Shotgun rain <3

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they are effective-according to this-for up to 70 metres or 75 yards depending on the model, so tht seems fine.

Thats like saying "is the sun to hot". Shotguns are powerful as hell in real life.

Shotguns are powerfull and in real life they can hit from a pretty far distance in games is another story..

It's not too powerful it just has too much range. You shouldn't be able to 1 shot someone from 20 feet away from the hip.

A little bit...but not as powerful as the one in Uncharted 2.....Run, Gun, Dead :/

The funny thing about the shotgun in Killzone3 is that it is actually harder to use from a 'point blank' range rather than say from 15 yards out.

Shotty is over powered, far to much range on that thing. I hit someone miles away with it yesterday. so are snipers with camo and silenced weapon. This is a horribly balanced game, that's becoming clear as people get to grips with it. Worse balance than MW2

1 )take a weapon

2 )aim at an ennemy

3 )Shoot

4 )get the kill

5 ) ??????

6 )PROFIT

nothing to report this weapon works fine ...

GG casulized the whole game!

Weapon damage like COD and BC movement???

How can any proper gamer take that crap seriously?

A sniper with an AR, no spawngrenades, 8vs8 matches in a tactical shoter, non existend recoil - exactly what COD kids love, cheap kills all the way!!!

yes it is over powered

Yes the shotgun is overpower is distance

Well i just shot someone in a corridor from about 5 feet away dead on aim n they didnt die :S

I don't understand people who cite real life information on firearms and try and argue that they should be reflected that way in video games. Yes, a bit of realism is impressive; however, balance is infinitely more important.
It's like early MAG all over again with the LMGs. People arguing for the LMGs to stay the same because in real life they do, indeed, have decent range, have a high firing rate, are relatively accurate. The problem is when a single weapon can perform just as well if not better in multiple areas that other weapons are pretty much MADE for.
If an SMG user and a Shotgun user get into a fight at mid range, the Shotgun user should be the first to drop given they both fired at the same time.

Sniper plus his third secondary weapon. It's like a silenced machine gun pistol. Plus radar jammer and cloak. The bastard is like a ghost and is to over powered for multi player.

If you don't think so you're in denial.

playing the KZ beta and having fun.

and everytime I say how the shotties are way over powered in terms of range and hit detection, the DAs add up... surely those are using the shotties.

also I the hit detection needs to be fixed.. the standard eng. primary also... I have gotten so many killz and wasnt even pointing directly at the target (and no one else was around)

I just think the health in the game is to low in general, I preferred the old health bar instead of this regenerating health shit.

It was good having more health before because if somebody was shooting you in the back it would give you that chance to react, now it doesnt. and non regen health also stopped camping because if you were hurt youd have to seek out a medic which added team play.

lesson learnt, slow movement + low health do not mix, you cant get yourself out of sticky situations.

The shotgun is fine the way it is, its just the current map has alot of close quarters fighting, the larger maps will open the game up and shotguns wont be so map friendly?

it's not that they are too powerful there isn't enough spread.But they will fix this on the first day patch

Using a shot gun is almost like the melee kills. If you are not close enough it can't do enough damage to kill you. This is made worse by the fact that people have armor and long range weapons and the fact that if you get to close they can melee you.

While playing the beta several times I have killed people trying to run up to me with the shotgun as fast as they can. Most of the time they either end up with a knife in the eye or dead before they even reach me.The shotgun is powerful but only if your sneaky enough to get close.

Nope.
Shotguns are close range weapons.
Only way to get any good is to practice aiming.
Aiming in the head is an instant kill no matter how to define it.
Chest shots usually take 2 bullets to kill.
That's fair to me.
Perhaps other players like Sandy Ravage are a good shot with the shotgun.

yess. in the beta ive been getting killed with one shot all the way across the bridge in frozen dam.... why?

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.

Beautiful. Might try it out then. Is the emulator capable of 3D? Playing this in 3D with the Move gun controller was amazing when it came out. I was surprised they got it to run so well in 3D, too, after Resistance 3's 3D had such a low frame rate. I can still play it on my PS3, but if this runs better, I'm down.

Controversial opinion here, but this is my favorite campaign in the series.

FPS, the way it's meant to be played, with a mouse and keyboard of course 😁I have the ISO, easy to get, now to set it up and see.