I dont think there are any PC fanboys here so they'll be no boasting.

Mark Rein is saying they ran out of RAM,lets face it the Developers can use the XBOX360 RAM better than the PS3 RAM and UNREAL is going to be the perfect example. Gabe Newell stated the same exact thing about the PS3 hardware,and that is why he picked the 360 over the PS3 when it came to ORANGE BOX.I would not be suprised if HALF LIFE 2 ran or looked like Shlt on the PS3 because of the RAM.

Content for this game will be unlimited. A couple maps is no biggie. No doubt as someone else said it will be the ones with 64 players since PS3 doesn't support it anyway.

And HA. Way to spin the title. Why not call it UT3 looks great, 6 axis is fantastic. Oh no, we cant have that can we.

didnt they say u can make ur own maps on the ps3 version?...if that was true, the way i see it u can have as many maps as u want, a feature not included in the 360 version they said, but i guess the PC version wins overall...but still make u own maps if u feel there arent enough

@BADBOYEK4
i didnt know thats ow they made it...thats stupid, i thought the ps3 had an integrated map editor, EPIC is just money hungry...hey if u have a friend who has the game then ur lucky then i guess...but thats still pretty gay, they shouldve at least put a map editor in the ps3 version...

"But look at GG with KillZone 2. Is this an unavoidable problem with the technical limitations of the console, or the knowledge of the developers?"

Well, you want to tell me, that KZ2 (models, envir., textures) look better than UT3? I do not mention the stupid AI right now. I could bet that the AI in KZ2 will be as stupid as in RfoaM = less cpu-power needed.
It would be nice to know how much disc space for UT3 (ps3) was needed? 25gigs? lol

Its funny how the entire article is shaved down to how the ps3 will have a few less maps.

First of all I build Computers and I know exactly what i am talking about and Resources = Ram. I am not a Fanboy, I have 2 Gaming PCs, 360 Elite, PS3 and a 20 gig 360 in my household.

seriously, lol at Dpa and the Sony haters. This article is more about hands-on report @ TGS.

"The next map we loaded up was the destroyed city level that we've detailed for you before and the level played just as well as it had in the past. The massive Darkwalker was still the focus of the level and wreaked an insane amount of havoc each and every time it was piloted. There was a bit of a bug in which the framerate would drop substantially when the screen filled with its primary mode of fire (a massive fiery laser). Mark Rein was on-hand to explain that it was indeed a bug and not a performance issue. His favorite line of the night was, "If there were no bugs we'd have shipped by now!"

oh, and good news for content down the road

"Rein even told us that there were plans to allow for players to release mods for sale on the Playstation Network and that the most popular mods and maps would be compiled and sold in an updated Unreal Tournament 3 package later down the line. We'll have much more on Unreal Tournament 3 as its holiday release date draws closer."

See how misleading the title is? I'm surprised its approved so fast, but I guess the current headline will get more views.

PS3 has an "Epic" game coming in November! Uncharted: Drakes's Fortune, Ratchet and Clank: Future Toools of Destruction, and Unreal Tournament 3 are killer apps that will keep PS3 safe this Holiday. Many people would rather play these three games paired with the Assassins Creed's, Call of Duty 4's, and Rock Bands (which is wireless for PS3). On top of Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Eye of Judgement, Singstar (first reviews are 9+), Lair and Haze. This is the best Christmas line-up for Sony's first year ever, they might not win, but they will be damn safe! Also people buy consoles for the immediate spring titles as well. They think out what will give me the most killer apps in 2008!. Everyone knows the heat Sony has coming early 2008. Epic fans who may be looking for a PS3 this fall will buy it with Unreal Tournament! These top 3 titles are all action packed, fast paced, and system sellers!

"He said that there would be a couple of maps that would be left out of the PS3 version simply because the system didn't have the resources to produce a smooth gameplay experience."

Personally, I always thought when developers are back on MAPS/CONTENT, when they have Blu-Ray at their disposal, seems kind of ODD?

That just re-enforce my belief, the PS3 have many Weaknesses and Limitations. Fanboys flame about having more content because of "EXTRA SPACE" but here is one case where the PS3 just couldn't "cut the mustard" regardless of it's Blu-Ray medium.

After all PC will by far outshine anything on a console in like 2 years. Console will never be able to keep up, well quite frankly, they are not "SCALABLE". Your a fool to think that if a Console game that looks awesome was done with the same amount of time and support on a PC, that the Console would win every time.

Consoles have will always have CPU, RAM, GPU limitation. It's not just about having Gigs of space, it all have to work together.

Maan what is there to disagree about? Show yourself? lol

Im surprised that they couldnt pull it off. But i suppose PCs have like 2GB ram as standard these days whereas 360/PS3 have 500.

the problem with pc games atm wasn't like this in the Past is that most good games are getting made for next gen consoles these days buy the devs that made pc games e.e epic/bioware/2k games /this started when Microsoft got into the games industry so pc may look slighly better thanc next gen console but better and mroe games are gettign released for consoles exp on the xbox 360 and some multi platform games also e.g assassins crred which is now delayed for pc mass effect contender for goty

Why on earth is anyone flaming in this thread? This is a fact, they're removed some maps from THE DISC. What will they do? Download content! I'd bet because it's on the PC, they'll also be free to download. Everyone shut up and stop being so bloody fanboyish. This is a non event story, and it doesn't say anything bad about either console realistically. The maps aren't on the disc, they'll be on the respective marketplaces. Thread over.

They said those two would be just as smooth, now both will be cut-off.

PC's allows more freedom to games developers certainly but the real payout for developers is on console. Large distribution bases and no need to consider multiple configurations are attractive propositions for companies who want real paydays. If true stats were harvested related to of PC gamers who own a particular game AND actually play it at full specs I would be very surprised it if broke 15%.

Consoles may have limitations but the console games market frequently outperforms the PC games market. Why? Because console users bases are static spec, and streamlined experience.

PC gaming will never die but console gaming evolves substantially with each generation, enjoy increasing lengthy lifespans (people Do not want to find their PC obsolete before it gets switched on), and they are simply far cooler than playing games on PC's.

Anyway the PC vs Console debate will never end so let it continue.

Don't worry about the number of maps.
Even if offical map is less than PC version, PS3 version support user mod, right ?
Then vast numbers of user created maps will come out.

We feel your pain. It's hard to wait longer. We know. We have been thru that. ...............

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Now it's your time

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its a multiplatform game, this makes pc superior to ps3 in what way? we have games that make this one look like chicken sh#t, whats the point of making it seem as if pc is better cause of that?

If this game arrives on the 360 a year or two from now, imagine how many maps will have to be cut then? They might as well call it a demo, seeing as so many key features won't be "ported" from the original version.

you say that now but what are you going to say if the 360 has the same exact content as the PC. oh I know!! WELL EPIC IS BIASED TOWARDS SONY IN FAVOR OF MS.

People, don't forget that Epic was responsible for the Memory architecture of the xbox 360. They specifically asked for this to make gears and I remember them bragging about how they made microsoft spent 1 Billion doing this.

Also, don't forget that epic already mentioned that xbox 360 owners wouldnt be missing any content.. if content does not fit they would simply put it on xbox live as free download... after all these are multiplayer maps... which means you must have access to the internet to play them.

Last though... Maps do not take a lot of space.. anyone making maps on the PC knows this. a map is only a few megabytes... map files only contain information about map settings, spawn locations, assets locations, dimensions, etc. What really take space is new textures, assets, etc. This is how games like Mass Effect and others are able to make huge games into a single dvd9 using only ingame assets while other need huge amount of data and have to use multiple disks due to the CGI.

I do think that the PC will get more larger maps to support a lots more players ala COD4. It's easy for developers to tell people MINIMUM Memory requirement 1GB something you can't do with consoles. I love my xbox 360 and PS3 owners love the PS3 but let's face it.. the upgradable nature of the PC makes it very easy for developers to give PC games the edge over console games. If anyone want the ultimate experience over this game (concidering that Epic is primarity a PC developers) you will get the PC version... ofcourse if you have the hardware to support it.

Do I smell those maps mysteriously coming to PSN later on in form of $9.99 Map Packs and Epic saying that they "fix" the maps so now they work...

This is going to be a great game

EPIC did not mention nothing about it being a space issue...but gamers are smelling maps on PSN. While there will be money made somehow on there, its a no-brainer.

With Blu-Ray being so big, space-wise, I don't think this is "we can't fit them on a disk issue".

"He said that there would be a couple of maps that would be left out of the PS3 version simply because the system didn't have the " RESOURCES TO PRODUCE A SMOOTH GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE."

With that said, it is something about the PS3's architecture...some type of limitation and I know it's not space. Oh yeah Snukadaman #15.3 comment is soo true.

is this an online game only or is there a single player campaign

well pc dose not use blue ray, so what dose that mean now?

don't quite get this guy's point.

the 360 version is wack. they havent even touched the 360 version yet. i suspect mid 2008 for that one. by that time ps3 will be whoopin 360 all across the world. ps3 fans, let 360 fanboys have there fun for right now and till november. after that, its a wrap. but also, if any of these 360 fanboys are on this site when halo 3 comes out, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS......................... ........so i predict all of them

all i have to say is the ps3 has a crap load of good games coming out in its first year.. Than they have a crap load more coming out next year.. Good stuff i have to say

then who cares if we lose a few maps?

It better be amazing!

there is no point in getting the PS3 version now or 360 later if you have a computer able to run it. Its a PC centric game.

Thats correct the other maps for the 360 will be available for download. Its funny how the Sony fans try and comfort themselfs with "the DVD9 means less maps myth" not even knowing the 360 will get the same content as the PC as the dev said.

They comfort themselfs bashing the 360 when its the PS3 thats inferior. Lets hope these levels that are being pulled from the PS3 version do not end up on the 360 version or that "PS3 can only use half of its memory for gaming" issue will become a flame war without end.

its a shame those maps dont run smoothly on the system to provide a good experience id rather them take them out then have lag on the system tho :-/

If I get this at all it will be on PC. Games like this are not suited to console controllers in my opinion.

flamebait all day

lazy bastards! Boycott Epic! Only buy Sony exclusives so we can become Nintendo this generation.

But damn, it will cost you an arm and a leg to get all the bells & whistles.

Better just to get a console. It's ....just about....as good, lasts longer and more affordable.

The PC is welcome to those 2 extra maps. Suppose we have to be happy making our own. Dammit.

yet another example of PS3's ram limitations. lmao. suck it, sony dogs ;) awwwwwwwww. let me buy you a pack of gum. ill show you how to chew it.

i think what hes trying to say about the maps,is that they are for 64 players online. Thats why they are leaving them out because of lag which will effect online play so i can predict they wont be on 360 as well not ram limitations ps3 got same ram+ cell. mr wii60 that all you do slag ps3 every chance you get when most people know that the ps3 the better system. and your running scared watch out 2008 thats when the push start and sony begins this years just a taste of whats tocome. And im ready . ps while you will watch and weep?

Bubs for you!

Wii60 FTW~ YOU GOT CLOWNED!!!!

In the near future~ dvd9 vs BLUERAY ~ no contest,its over bots,you will certainly be missing out(graphics,content,gameplay) HAHAHA!

I would be nice if they release the Editor that works on the PC with te PS3 copy, so they don't have to buy the PC version as well.
Just an idea.

I hate motion blur, whenever DF would say a version was better because of motion blur I always rolled my eyes because motion blur is not a defining element to me and I don’t feel like any game has emplemented it in a good way

I like it overall it helps convey speed better imo. But in multiplayer it can prevent you from seeing your enemy correctly.
However single player motion blur all the way

I don't like motion blur. It gets turned off when the option is available

The issue with motion blur is the implementation of the feature is based on a misperception of the human senses. We experience motion blur all the time in our everyday lives as we turn our head and look around. But the reality is we are unaware it is occurring. In games they have made the sensation overt and thus it is unrealistic. To many people it is annoying and for a few, sickening.

The same is partially true with headbob. In actuality, it occurs to varying degrees depending upon things as gait, skeletal structure, etc. But as we matured our brains rapidly developed compensation mechanisms such as your eye rotation almost imperceptibly up and down. They have made the sensation overt in many games and depending upon how it is instituted it can provide an unrealistic experience for the gamer.

It can be a good thing in 30 fps titles

Motion blur is annoying and interferes with my ability to play FPS. I expect to be able to see things as clearly as my eyes allow me to, so stop adding distortions to the game that interfere with my ability to aim.

Developers thinking that motion blur adds anything to the experience are 100% WRONG and should stop it.

I turn it off whenever possible, and normally DoF too (but that depends on the game and how well/badly it is implemented).

I always turn it down or off.

I always turn it off or set it to low if there is no off. My one major gripe about SoD2 is the motion blur and I really hope they patch in the option to turn it off.

I'm not a big fan of all those effects either if possible the first thing that is turned off is motion blur...

I also don't like lens glare especially in a game that is first person view..... for me it often breaks the immersion.....

why is there lens glare in a game world with no cameras? I wear glasses and lighting does not reflect that dramatic even if the excuse was a visor or glasses..........
In a game that could justify or make sense of lens glare, I still find that game developers have overly done/over intensified the lens glare/flare and it just becomes a distraction..........

Someone above mention depth of field.... Now that one if done correctly, I can handle but I still want the option to turn it off or adjust the intensity in game if the dev/pub over does it (and depth of field is often over done) for whatever game...........

Maybe devs just need to tone all effects back just a bit (probably worse now with HDR ha!) haven't updated my set still enjoying my Plasma TV I have had for a few years still got inky blacks/fantastic contrast and color :-)

I hate motion blur with a passion and I always turn it off.

Cant stand it one of the first setting's i mess with soon as a set up a new game.

Need to scale it back a bit also the bloom is getting too much in some games , never get sick of depth of field effect though .

Not to be downer, but let's be real here. Doom will have some pre launch hype by it's fans who miss 'the glory days of shooters' but it will fizzle out quick within a month.

I'm not underestimating how popular this series is, it's just a different beast now, compared to back then. Now doom doesn't have to be this mega hit, but websites will be putting articles out trying to hype it up as if it will (or should be) because they are personal not into games like call of duty, which in return they know will get them a lot of support from people who also don't like it.

It just seems like websites have a standard 'hook em in' strategy book on how to present a article so gamers feed on it, now I know technically they have to do it to be successful, but I guess being on N4G this long I start seeing a pattern of familiarity with all the articles popping up daily.

Doom looks awesome and will be a must buy for me. But calling it the best fps seen in years is a stretch. Especially since the game is not out yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. High expectations is a killer.

I've heard allot of Good things about the original. can someone explain what will set this apart from every other fps out? For example battlefield's things are large maps destruction and vehicles, cod's are "solid" multiplayer and zombies. Are there any features thats gonna make DOOM the "best first person shooter we've seen in ages"?

Its my next buy for sure...i miss the frantic gore gameplay of the old doom...

One of the first games I've every played was DOOM, so I'm probably going to pick up a copy on release! Really hope it doesn't disappoint.

Maybe if you're a Destiny hater.

Not to take away from Doom, but if we're simply talking about combat, Destiny is so much more dynamic. Say what you will about content droughts and "non-existent story," but at least acknowledge that Destiny's gameplay is second to none.

The day a Destiny experience runs at 60 frames is the day it will be the greatest first person shooter gameplay of all time.

I'm keeping my eye on Overwatch, though.

Please don't disagree mob me for liking Destiny, I'm sorry guys! *shields face*

I 100% agree with the headline which is why I have this bad boy preordered :3

Looks good . best shooter ive played in years is Wolfenstein The New Order. Way better than any COD.