I thought I was pretty good with the Move. But when I finally got into a game last night ...I was last twice. Hmfp.

Better practice more.

Will be someone owning in a PS3 vs PC game. Not that we've yet to see such a game other than DCU till now.

If this is the case then GG should allow mice and keyboards to be used with the game as well.

Move players vs. DS3 players isn't fair. Aiming with the Move is faster then a DS3 and a hell of a lot more accurate.

I can't wait to play with my Move controller! I finally caved in and bought one :)

got my experience from mag, move is amazing if u are not a noobie and will become a ya default controller.

Got the killzone gun on pre order woop woop

i have a question, i want to get move but i need to know what distance can it handle, does it work at about 8 feet distance or do i need to be close to it. form where i can place the camera to where im sitting is about 8 feet.

doesnt they split the server?

I think what most people will be surprised about, and something most people who've not go on with move fps controls seem to miss, is that it's not a 'more casual' controller (as it has been promoted) - it's actually a heck of a lot more difficult to learn and master than DS3. People get confused and frustrated that it's not 'pick up and play', just because it looks and appears like it should be.

In reality there's much more going on with the Move control scheme (controlling camera and pointer), and it's as much of a leap as when we all had to get used to the twin analogue stick controller back in the day. This doesn't mean to say it's worse. But there are plenty of people who will label it 'worse' simply because they haven't spent enough time with it to become competitive.

In fact, as Move has more in common with the mouse/keyboard set-up, in terms of the ability to point and shoot with precision, it could be called the more 'hardcore' controller option.

I've been playing with Move on MAG, tweaking and learning how to best use it, and now I can honestly say, though I have to work a bit harder with Move (concentrate more on my camera placing), it does give me the advantage overall. Now, I tend to place in the top 2 or 3 players in terms of Kill to Death ratio.

BTW, there is a bug with KZ3 the beta that allows Move players to exploit the 'cross-hair lock-on' from the SP campaign (its not meant to be active in MP. It's almost cheating to use it, though its not necessarily better as switching between targets with lock-on can be problematic. I don't use it as I prefer free aim.

All in all, Killzone 3 has the best 'feel' and implementation of Move so far. I'd still prefer a smaller deadzone, and I have to have the sensitivity at zero. But you can get used to it.

Check out my MAG move tweak guide for some idea of how move works and the calibration 'trick' to lower sensitivity (though Killzone also has a slider for this, you can also add to the effect by using this trick).

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

So, if you try out Move, and it doesn't come together for you instantly, don't rage at it. Learn it. Test it. Improve. Frankly, I wish more people and reviewers would recognise that this control scheme, ported from Wii and now perfected on PS3, is the best innovation in console FPS controls in about 10 years. I love Move and I'm also PC gamer.

does he want a medal, i played 3 games on thursday with move came first in all 3 of them and i suck at fps
edit: i turned assist off (its so god damn irratating)

I haven't used the Move (and don't intend to) but if it's that much more accurate and a skilled player has that much more of an advantage then they need to be on different servers. Nobody should be penalized because of the controller you use.

Ok, I know its all about skill but come on, even the most MLG player out there can't do that kind of stunt. They gave move players an advantage over DualShock 3 players to get people to buy the move.

- Conspiracy Theorist, RegPSN

Doesn't the Move come with aiming assist??? If so I wouldn't be bragging...O_o

Why would Guerrilla allow aiming assist in any way??? I haven't nor will I have the chance to play with 3D enabled but I hear that offers an advantage as well.

Wtf? Didn't Killzone 2 give you like... double digits points? I think I remember like 30-50 points being a lot.

Is 25 for assist/ 50 for kills

Killer app for Move?
Anyone tried splitscreen with Move? That would be interesting to see.

For anyone worried about the fairness of Move vs DS3, I wouldn't worry. Move is not as stable as a mouse-keyboard set-up, and as the camera and pointer are not synced, there's no direct competition between the two control schemes. As some people have said, the Move is better for aiming at enemies in your line of sight, but DS3 does have the advantage of strafing and circling your enemies. DS3 also allows you to hold the pointer steady just by letting the stick flick back to the centre - Move requires you to use you hand/wrist to 'hold' it in place.

All in all, it depends on your play style. If you're really good with DS3, then you'll still be able to own with it. People who never much cared for DS3, or prefer a mouse-like point and shoot experience, might find they play better with Move. It's all personal taste.

What colour does the move glow when you play killzone3?

yay for waving a stick around in the air =D pew pew /s

nice,i think this helps solidify that Move isn't just a gimmick and can be used for real games.I personally prefer to play my online multiplayers with my DS3 maybe one day ill get the Move for story mode and stuff

to those saying there's no proof of first place, by the time i got my camera ready to take the picture, I only managed to take one, then screen already went to the next lobby, so all i managed was the score. However, if you ever play in the beta you should be able to tell that a score that big is usually first place, that's why i uploaded it still.

I was going to wait for the game to come out but now that I read this --- perhaps I should begin practicing with my MOVE via the Beta.

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i agree. i have move and navigation controller and after i got the hang of it, i jus annihilate anything that appears on my screen. he's right, u have to change your strategy but it has advantages over ds3 whereas ds3 also has its advantages. its pretty interesting to see it done in the beta. but i have gotten so comfortable with the move now that i think ill mainly use it on the SP and MP wen the game cums out. also theres a crazy amount of tweaks to get the feel just right +

I played with the Move last night and had a blast. Stabbing people is fun, and the precision is phenomenal.

No, playstation move sucks, because xbox people say so; so it must be true.

Folks, Move aim is sticky, that's why people are 'owning' with it. (yes, I tried it myself)

I just feel stupid playing that way and it feels completely pointless. There is nothing eye opening, entertaining, or game changing about it. It's a gimmick we've bought in to. At least I'm selling mine to pay for new games.

playing with Move is EASIER than Dualshock 3. So big whoop if he got 1st place with move controller.

Ok so I am a "move noob" here. I've been playing against the bots to get some more practice and gain some confidence before hitting multi. Question though- can Someone explain how to do the knife kills with both the move/nav controller as well as the dual shock?? I still can only use the butt end of my gun and that does eff all!!! Thanks. Ps- I have a gun attachment that holds the nav controller like a grip at the bottom- love it!!

That sounds pretty interesting. I think I'll be trying this on my brother's PS3 since I got him Move for Christmas.

And yes I love Halo Reach too.

(Wonder how Xbox and PS3 fanboys would respond to a comment like this. Probably just ignore it altogether haha)

isnt it gorgeous how we treat animals.

That’s Zuckermans famous pig.

Move controller was extremely accurate great times back then

That definitely would have been the absolute worst time for stick drift to happen...

I always wanted a true to life surgery simulator for PSVR1. I always knew those Move controllers were precise AF under the proper conditions.

Move was a very accurate device under good conditions. Dr Marks even wanted to open it up for hobbyists and developers to extract more data to do more things. I even seen him use it for space, astronaut like simulations.

Sony always had the tech. They just needed the software to go with it. PS Move limit was not having an analog stick. Which it seems the PS5 controller made up for that.

I would like to see them use PS VR 2 for surgery or something with that eye tracking built in.

At least it wasn’t used for a mini-sub

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.