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Sony claims PS3 games will run on NGP without graphical changes

Sony claims PS3 games will run on NGP without graphical changes
But NGP versions should come with extra feature

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morganfell5575d ago (Edited 5575d ago )

The writer of this story is missing the point of Sony's comment. It doesn't exclude extras but rather Sony meant you would not have to sacrifice quality. Duh.

Attempts to find a topic worthy of story material are often quite telling. Particularly when such efforts go awry.

DoomeDx5575d ago

If this is true..i wonder how the PS4 will be.

arjman5575d ago

It's teh power of teh Arm Cortex A9, ok that doesn't have much of a ring to it...

dredgewalker5575d ago

Lol....the Arm Cortex A9 doesn't really sound as charming as the Cell. Maybe we should just shorten it to "ArmCor 9"?

Marceles5574d ago

Sounds like the name of a Ratchet weapon

rockleex5574d ago

Armored Core 9? What? Lol. :P

HappyGaming5574d ago

The power of the Cortex...
or
The power of the A9

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Prcko5575d ago

did i said day 1??
yeah i did!

Jio5575d ago

Getting it day 1 too! NGP, is going to be amazing.

MGRogue20175575d ago

Same here.. I want to buy it now! NAO!! :D

Droidbro5574d ago

It's amazing how is easy it to sell a garbage hand-held to you guys with lies. Obviously, any hand-held device at this point in time is incapable of producing PS3 or even 360 like graphics. The original PSP had garbage games and I would have think very hard about purchasing this. This is shameless propaganda to sway people away from 3DS.

Elvfam5115574d ago

Just buy your 3DS and ill buy my NGP.... Just like maybe you brought the DS while i brought the Psp....

hot4play5574d ago

Oooh, someone is butthurt. Aren't you supposed to be on some Windows Phone 7 forum or something?

Let me rephrase your statment:
"It's amazing how is easy it to sell a garbage (CONSOLE ie. XBOX360) to you guys with lies.

"shameless propaganda"? Really? lol. Btw, Halo sucks :D

internalbit5574d ago

Delusional much? Anti playstation brigade out in force lol

awiseman5575d ago

2 analog stix = awsome fps experience.

saint_john_paul_ii5575d ago

wipeout HD was aparently running on NGP (obviously not in HD) and it did not lose its quality.

klado5575d ago (Edited 5574d ago )

It is quite a possibility of this happening since

Lets recount
Ngp = CPU 2GHZ, GPU 800mhz+, Ram 512 up to 1GB(Rumors, but isn't the Iphone 512?, exactly)
Ps3 = Cpu 7 x SPE @ 3.2GHz, GPU 500MHz, Ram 256x2 = 512

In short, yes the NGP is capable of moving or even emulating PS3's games at the given Sub-HD resolution for the NGP.

In short, games like Alan wake, or below the remark can run easily on this lil piece of ORGASMIC machine.

Doubt all you want mate, that is just FACT.

SuperM5574d ago (Edited 5574d ago )

How many Ghz or Mhz the processor or gpu is running at does not tell you how powerfull it is so the comparison you did is pretty much useless except for the RAM which does hint that NGP might be able to have as good or better textures then PS3.

However it has been said that the NGP is really strong at doing shaders and that it can do any shader the PS3 can do. I can believe that since it has 8x the shader performance of the Samsung galaxy S and 16x the shader performance of an Iphone 4. Pretty impressive stuff.

It cannot push as many polygons as the PS3 though. Thats where the NGP is struggling (if you can say that at all)

Also games like Alan Wake that already run at a low resolution is less likely to be able to run on the NGP then other games. Wipeout HD is able to run on the NGP because its scaled down from 1080p on the PS3 to 544p (or something like that) on the NGP. Im not sure exactly what resolution Alan Wake is running but its probably something like 640p. Scaling a game down from 640p to 544p is not gonna yield enough power for the game to run on NGP.

I expect that pretty much every game that is 1080p on PS3 can be ported more or less without graphical downgrade to the NGP. If the game runs at 720p or below its going to take a graphical hit (or lower framerate) when ported to NGP

klado5574d ago

Thanks for the input mate, pretty much appreciate.

Ju5574d ago

There is no way the NGP can "emulate" the PS3.

But what it can do is run the same (recompiled source) code and the exact same assets (graphics, animations, sounds). MGS4 showed it can render the exact (!) same scene @20fps.

Now, this possibly did not include any AI, physics or other. But it also wasn't optimized code but a straight port of existing PS3 code.

With optimization it is likely, the NGP can run the exact same game as the PS3 does - on a smaller resolution.

klado5574d ago (Edited 5574d ago )

Did I said otherwise? that was my remark dude, capable of running the same game if not better at given sub-par resolution, it is pretty much possible, emulating it though? was too exited :D.

No to mention NGP posses a even better GPU and may also RAM, so expecting a better AI and environment too.

@ Disagrees, guess I can easily taste your denial.

SuperM5574d ago

Klado, you have no idea what you are talking about and you pretend what you are saying are facts. Its not facts, its what you think is true and its really not. Im not saying your completely wrong with the message you are trying to convey, but you are definately overestimating the NGPs power compared to the PS3

Ju5574d ago

The NGP does not have the "better" GPU. It has a last gen GPU with all the bells and whistles those come these days, namely better (more complex) shader support (PowerVRs own version, whatever that UNI shader is they promote so heavily).

Bandwidth wise, I strongly doubt it will reach what the RSX is shuffling through the PS3's XDR/GDDR. I also doubt they can reach the 30GB/s bandwidth on a hand held device. This would be interesting to find, out though.

Geometry will be a problem, but you got 4 cores to do some preprocessing? I don't know, could be possible. Since PS3 games do culling on the SPU this code could possibly be used on the NGP.

Also, I do not think they will go with the highest clock frequency. 2GHz CPU and 800MHz GPU is a best case scenario, on the low end it's 800MHz+200MHz GPU. Anything in that range is possible.

But we'll see. Heavily shader optimized games on the NGP will for sure look impressive. Particle monster like KZ3, I doubt it. Not even in lower res. SPU bandwidth is still unmatched.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted14d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8514d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele13d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk13d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay13d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10114d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit13d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg13d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10113d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14913d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_27d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle26d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit26d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog27d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog27d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad27d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_27d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage27d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda26d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong53d ago

looks god awful on the base systems