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Who Should Start The Next Console Generation?

Mugampi.com writes "The Xbox 360 started this current generation over five years ago. In a world of rapidly advancing tech, that’s a long time. When graphics on a handheld are starting to look as good as consoles, it’s time to prepare for the future. Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing this gen go for a few more years, but when the time does come to ship new consoles, who should take the lead?"

wwm0nkey5590d ago

Nintendo will most likely be going into the next gen first. Then MS and Sony will follow.

Shadow Flare5589d ago

Agreed. Nintendo look the most likely to start next gen first. PS3 is still pumping out the goods, staying fresh and it's still at ps2's launch price. 360 has just got kinect to extend it's life. Wii is in decline, with nothing outstanding on the horizon...a new console is due

smoothdude5589d ago

Hopefully we will hear something at this years E3 conference. However, my opinion is that next gen is on the horizon just yet.

As for Nintendo having nothing, they are coming out with 3DS, which should help them until Wii 2 comes out.

wwm0nkey5589d ago

Pretty much, PS3 and 360 can keep things going for atleast 2 more years. Nintendo's new console should and probably will be revealed this or early next year. It will cause Nintendo to be behind in graphics when the new MS and Sony console releases but for the year or 2 its out it will be able to cheaply and effectively be able to outperform 360 and PS3 easily if Nintendo does it right (which they probably will).

DeeZee5589d ago

Yup, hopefully Nintendo thinks of something good because with Kinect and Move out, better motion controls aren't enough. Unless they finally give us true virtual reality, but that's probably not going to happen.

alien6265589d ago

i rather see sony start it but not too early i like wat sony is always making they impress me witht he ps3 psp and now NGP i cant wait to see PS4 when they announce it

captain-obvious5589d ago

all 3 at the same day ?
no ??

ABizzel15589d ago (Edited 5589d ago )

Probably Nintendo. There's even a good chance that it may come out this year, but I doubt they'd want to compete with their own 3DS this holiday which would be the first holiday for both. So like I've been saying since 2008, Nintendo will launch their new console in 2012 possibly in the Spring, but most likely holiday 2012. I think the new Nintendo console will be on par with or slighty more powerful than the 360 and PS3 (remember this would be 6 years later), it'll have some new gimmick which will be Kinect times 100, and will retail for $299.

I also think MS will launch their new console holiday 2012. 2011 is obviously all about Kinect with the core gamer receiving Gears, Forza, and multiplats to tie them over (some Kinect titles look like possible core games), and 2012 will be no different. I'm sure MS is working on prototypes now, and they'll launch the new console holiday 2012, and keep the 360 on the market as Kinect continues to bring in casual gamers. The problem with this strategy is that their market will be split, and so will their development teams which they don't have many of. So my guess is to entice the early adopters the new Xbox will launch with Halo 4, and cost $399.

Sony on the other hand will milk as much out of the PS3 as possible. Even though I know they want to come out day and date with Nintendo and MS, I think they're going to have to wait thanks to that huge lost with the PS3 early on. The only way Sony will come out with a new system in 2012, is if they stick with the tech for that time, but after seeing what they've done with the NGP I seriously doubt that's going to happen. I honestly think we won't see a PS4 until 2014. And when it comes out it's going to be beastly. Sony knows it's going to have to catch up to MS and Nintendo who would have sold (around 20 and 40 million consoles by then thanks to no PS4), so when they do launch the PS4 expect to have one of the best launch game line up in history. I think the PS4 will retail for $399 since that's when the PS3 started picking up in sales, and with the tech they're going to put into it, you can believe it'll be worth it.

My crystal ball knows all.

AAACE55589d ago

Based on past history, new consoles usually come out when the older ones drop to $150. Wii is close to that point so I expect an announcement at E3. But the Wii is still selling pretty well. So would Nintendo push something out now or wait for sales to slow down?

I would like to say MS will try to beat Sony to the punch again by releasing first. MS is tricky though. They are right at that $200 mark where they can drop to $150 and launch a new console afterwords, but the higher priced models throw the traditional mindframe off.

You also gotta wonder if MS will release an entirely new console or just a remodeled console. Like an Xbox 360 with no disc drive, but has a bigger HDD, more RAM and more powerful chips. And yes, it would be download only! But that is risky.

Sony has everyone believing that they won't come out with a new console for ten years. But they have said that ten year thing with every console and have released a new one right in the middle of that span. But seeing how the Ps3 is still at $300, I think they might actually try it this time. I think that piracy thing will contribute to their next consoles release!

ShinMaster5589d ago

They made a motion control GameCube system called the Wii.
So they have to now. They've had more than enough time since last gen.

AWBrawler5589d ago

are you serious? Big N is going to ride that wave until it dies, like they do every successful console. if anything they may come last as not to get copied.

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Shok5589d ago

Nintendo will start first, then Microsoft, then Sony. the 360 and PS3 have longer life spans, and the PS3 has a longer lifespan than the 360.

Titanz5589d ago

Microsoft launched first, then both Sony and Nintendo followed.

The Wii still has a price cut or two it can use to encourage sales, so its still a factor.

Nintendo will continue to support the Wii, just like Sony does with the PS2.

Xbox360PS3AndPC5589d ago

@Titanz Microsoft Launched First Last Gen Because They Only Sold 24 Million Xbox Consoles, Now The Xbox 360 Is At Nearly Or Maybe More Than 50 Million Units Sold Which Is A Great Achievment For A Company That Has Only Made 2 Consoles, The Wii Is Outdated & Old So Nintendo Will Start The Next Gen

femshep5589d ago

best guess

Nintendo to upgrade so they can have HD gaming
and MS and Sony will announce at the same time having almost the exact same system with a few differences on each

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio23d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing23d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9223d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit23d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing23d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9223d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted25d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8525d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele25d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk25d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay25d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10125d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit24d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg24d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10124d ago (Edited 24d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14925d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay25d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn225d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn225d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown25d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay25d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay25d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac24d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger25d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300025d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde25d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde24d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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