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Industry Figures Weigh In On PS3 Hacker Debacle

The hack of the PlayStation 3 shook the gaming world, with the homebrew community buzzing at the opportunity to get under the hood of the console. But the consequences of such a hack could be potentially devastating to the platform, with easy piracy damaging both developers and publishers. Equally, Sony’s lawsuit of George Hotz and several other hackers made civil liberty groups uneasy, with them worried about the threat it presented to free speech. To learn about both the damaging effect of piracy, as well as the dangers of Sony’s attempts to suppress the hack, PlayStation LifeStyle interviewed Corynne McSherry from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and Michael Rawlinson, Director General of UKIE.

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ftwrthtx5593d ago

Great interview. Tough subject all the way around.

Sunny_D5593d ago

PS3 IS DOOOOOMZED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ugo5593d ago

are going to doom wit ur mouth

SasanovaS19875593d ago

i dont understand why it isnt a law yet...i mean, i cant go into government files through the net and take shit or else il be visited by unfriendly SWAT team that entered some other way other then my front door, and put in prison for life...but on the other hand, i can do the same exact thing to other companys...

dont give me any half assed explanations about the differences either, cus in essence its the exact same thing. ur looking at places your not allowed to, period.

take this case to the supreme court and create a new law

MintBerryCrunch5593d ago

you wouldnt download a pizza, YES.....YES I WOULD

Persistantthug5593d ago (Edited 5593d ago )

No matter who wins, I can see many problems.

Do you want the civil liberties of tinkerers and homebrewers trampled on?

or

Do you want the civil liberties of creators manufacturers and artists trampled on?

There's no real winner here.

kneon5593d ago (Edited 5593d ago )

The "tinkerers" can continue regardless of any possible changes to the laws, no one will do anything. That is until they start publishing stuff for everyone to see. Once you start to disclose stuff to which you don't have the copyright, you're toast. And I'm fine with that.

And don't start with the crap about "it's their console, they can do whatever they want" because that just isn't true. I can buy a book and it's mine, but I can't scan it, run it through OCR, change a few pages and publish an ebook, I don't own the copyright. It's the same thing with software.

What they have been doing is surely not covered under fair use, nor should it be.

Persistantthug5593d ago (Edited 5593d ago )

I create some new homebrew software to do that.

I decide to share this info on the web and then millions of people want this same toaster app. But since said company doesn't want me to do that because people won't buy games,

Are you saying I should be civilly and criminally prosecuted?

Edit...I didn't give you the disagree(s)...I'm just looking for your take, kneon.
Thanks.

badz1495593d ago

you can turn your console into anything you want! homebrew is 100% legal. but how do you turn your console into a toaster? by using your own code or Sony's key? if the later, than it's illegal for you to distribute it to others. plain and simple. only distribute what's yours not other's property!

kneon5593d ago

@Persistantthug

As badz149 says, it all depends on how you go about it. If you can manage to do it without violating any terms of service and without disclosing any proprietary information then you're ok. But as it stands today that's not possible to do since consoles will only run signed code.

I understand that some people disagree with restricting what can run on a console (or phone). But the fact is these are subsidized devices, at least for the first few years, so they need to be able to maximize revenue and piracy certainly doesn't help. That is unless you want them all to be unsubsidized from day one, but be prepared to pay a lot more. And we all saw how people whined about Sony "ripping people off" by selling the PS3 at $600, even though that was hundreds of dollars below their cost. They'll go completely nuts at the thought of a $1000 console.

And yes I know homebrew does not equal piracy, but the fact is the tools that enable homebrew also enable piracy.

Oner5593d ago (Edited 5593d ago )

The fair and proper thing is to look at how/what was used/taken. If there is clear fact that whatever code etc was stolen or gotten in some form of illegal way then it's not about civil liberties specifically. Just a case of theft and illegal use of someones property without authorization. But it can lead to precedence in certain liberties thereafter. Overall I do understand/agree with you Persistantthug as what you said is still quite poignant/valid in it's point. +Well Said to you.

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Anon19745593d ago

How are these guy's "tinkerers"? If a guy "tinkers" with a bank vault and security system and then publishes the security password and bank vault combination, would freedom of speech advocates protest the removal of this information off the web as a violation of freedom of speech? Of course not. What if the hackers hacked your computer at home and detailed on their website how to do it? I'm sure the case could be made that it might be educational to hack your computer - but I bet you'd have a different take on the hacker's efforts.

"Security researchers" are employed and paid to find flaws in systems. People who do it just for the hell of it and show others how are simply reckless criminals, in my opinion. Again to the bank analogy, you can't blow open a bank vault and then sit back and use "I told those people not to rob the bank after I disabled security and blew the door to the fault open!" as a defense.

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doctorstrange5593d ago

Hacking the PS3 has brought few benefits, and many, many problems. I wholeheartedly support Sony's actions against the hackers.

BigWoopMagazine5593d ago

ditto. I want to keep getting quality games dammit, not share ware flash crap.

doctorstrange5593d ago

If piracy keeps growing, that's where we are heading. Either that or the DRM/Online-only future I talked about on page 2.

The fact is, everything is in the end about the bottom line for developers, and when it stops being financially viable to create big games, they will stop.

ugabugaz5593d ago

I wouldn't mind having CFW. At least then we could get stuff life InGame Music on every game and MKV playback. Shame the downsides like hacking and ISO Loaders far outweigh the benefits.

badz1495593d ago

"At least then we could get stuff life InGame Music on every game and MKV playback."

yeah and they said they can enable otherOS, Xgame chat and other stuff as well but guess what, NONE of those materialized yet! go to the 'hacking-friendly' sites and you'll only find emulators and backup manager being the most favorite! others being DNS stuff to bypass PSN FW check etc. and all these are illegal stuff! this is the UGLY truth of PS3 hacking or any other console for that matter - PIRACY is always #1 priority!

Taggart4515593d ago

It boggles my mind how some people can justify piracy. Homebrew applications are neat and all, but it's not like they truly take advantage of the machine. But at the same time, it really is interesting to see the actual law and how it's being interpreted. I just....I just don't know what to think anymore.

doctorstrange5593d ago

What's interesting is that the lawsuit could set a precedent with the DMCA, thus being incredibly influential on future hacks of consoles.

trounbyfire5593d ago

i don't care about pirating music, movies, or even games but when hackers can directly affect me I have a huge problem. i have not felt anything from music or movies pirating but consoles are different we are truly connected and i don't want sony or any other to crap on me because of hackers

doctorstrange5593d ago

We've already lost Other OS, had to download a bunch of security updates, and will lose out on potential games

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted28d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8528d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele28d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk28d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay28d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10128d ago (Edited 28d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit28d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg27d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10127d ago (Edited 27d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14928d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_41d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle41d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit41d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog41d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog41d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad41d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_41d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage41d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda41d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong67d ago

looks god awful on the base systems