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CVG:Unreal Engine couldn't handle Crysis 2 - Crytek

CVG:Crytek has told CVG that its CryEngine 3 could have fuelled the development of "pretty much any other game" - but claimed that its rivals, including Epic Games' Unreal Engine, would struggle to power Crysis 2.

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NYC_Gamer5588d ago

i agree,the unreal engine is just too old by tech standards.

EL1TE5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

I agree as well.

Comparison here: http://www.psu.com/CryEngin...

NYC_Gamer5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

i expect many devs to sway from that old unreal engine once the cry engine becomes standard for multi plat use.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

@NYC

definitely. The CryEngine makes multiplatform development so much easier.

Active Reload5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

"i agree,the unreal engine is just too old by tech standards"

You no absolutely nothing about tech, lol.

Crytek needs to release more variety of games with their engine. Both engines look good, but to be on Epic's level your engine better be super flexible and easy to work with also.

hennessey865588d ago

not really a fair comparison that elite and the unreal engine can still produce stunning games. see bulletstorm and gears 3 for proof, cry engine has not even been used in a console game before crysis 2 so when that releases or when i check out the demo tomorow then we wil see whats what

IaMs125588d ago

Gears 2 still looks amazing but course Cryengine 3 be better graphics. Compare the UE4 and CryEngine 3 be little more fair.

But it seems like the consoles are struggling a little to run the Cryengine3, at least showed it that demo.

EL1TE5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

There's no UE4 yet, and Gears 3 uses an updated UE3 engine (UE3.5).

I couldn't find any other comparison, and even if there's one at this time it would be a Tech Demo as well since CryEngine 3 (Crysis 2) isn't out yet to compare. :)

And i also agree that UE3 made a lot of good games from it, like Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect 2 etc.

However it doesn't mean CE3 can't do better.

Active Reload5588d ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I'm sorry but Gears 3 has the most significant jump in graphics I've seen this gen.

gamingdroid5588d ago

How a game looks is less important than how a game plays!

Let's take a look at that demo of Crysis 2 tomorrow shall we and then decide....

Inside_out5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

Crytek loves to talk but where are the games to compare??? Sure, there are tech videos available running on some massive rig somewhere but where are the games.

No 2 PC's are the same so everyone has basically had a different experience with Crytek games...most have had headaches trying to get the things to run right...lol

Luckily, that's not the case for Unreal and the library of games using the tech is unprecedented...lets take a peak shall we...

First up some modified Unreal 2.5 games...

Bioshock 1...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

SC Conviction...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Impressive stuff for the older engine best known for SC Chaos theory...lol

Of Course, Unreal 3 is known for it's ease of use and versatility...just drool over some of these games...

Mirrors edge changed FPS's forever with there incredible use of FPS's mechanics on display here using a modified Unreal 3 engine by Dice...It's now the norm with Brink and KZ 3 trying to use similar motions...Pay attention to the color palette, animations and awesome vista's...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

What about this blow them away footage from the single player in MOH...this looks incredible...feel free to notice the lighting and draw distance...WoW

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Batman Arkham Asylum almost won GOTY and did in fact win many awards...you can SEE why...game play and graphics FTW...look at the scale and detail in this...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Bioshock Infinite is in development by the original makers Irrational games and they are excited by the new updates to Unreal 3...we can SEE their excitement in this reveal...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Maybe Crytek is worried about the other Unreal game about to drop on Feb 22...Bulletstorm...it does look pretty...remember kids...game play and graphics...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Tech demos are a dime a dozen...Unreal's latest...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Now, Unreal is all about the consoles...Crytek is still unproven and Gears 3 will be the yardstick in 2011...judge for yourself...Tech demo's are nice BUT we want to see in game proof...take a look...WoW

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It better be good in the multi-player arena...dedicated servers shows Epic is gonna big in 2011...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gears will put on display the latest Unreal tech. The game will have a single player campaign, 4 player story based co-op, Horde mode with new beast mode and dedicated server multi-player. New enemies, new weapons, new melee...new everything...that's gonna be tough to beat.

BTW...there are many more games that use the Unreal engine.

FrigidDARKNESS5588d ago

that's comparing it to the old Unreal Engine 3. They should compare it to the new UE3.5 which has much better texturing and lighting.

Sarcasm5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

I think if you compare the engines head to head, Cryengine has dynamic EVERYTHING while UE is all pre-scripted unless combined with PhysX or Havok. It's not about textures or lighting anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Take a look at that video at 1:45

Now where on consoles or any other engine have you see that level of detailed destruction? And that's with Crysis one.

So Cez, stop defending outdated tech.

Gamer_Z5587d ago (Edited 5587d ago )

Idk they both look really good i think we can all agree that they both look better than Black Ops! BO looks like crap that’s for sure. Will it look better than Killzone 3 i think not it might come close on the PC but fact that it is multiplatform keeps it from being the best visually, its definitely the best looking multiplat game. Everybody that says that the Xbox has games that looks as good as UC3 and Killzone 3 show me! Show me a game that looks as good as this:

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dangert125588d ago

i look at what ive seen on the ps3 and i look at crysis 2 on console and i don't think its special to be honest with you but at the same time i never thought the Unreal engine was special either

LunaticBrandon5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

Of course Crysis 2 looks like nothing special on PS3. Sony and their 1st party devs have the PS3's hardware mastered. If anyone could beat Sony on their own console it would be Crytek or id but I don't see it yet. Crysis 2 will look a thousand times better than anything on the PS3 but that will be the PC version.

nycredude5588d ago

Lunatic

give it a break. "Crysis 2 will look a thousand times better than anything on the PS3 but that will be the PC version". Get of the drugs bro.

dangert125588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

@nycredude

thats why i said on console.
i don't take drugs...you should assume stuff if you don't understand

lmao my bad i thought you was calling me a lunatic lool then saying all that to me lol my bad

cyborg69715588d ago

Wow, thems fightin words. And I agree the unreal engine is a out dated and over used engine. However some devs can put great looking games on all platforms. Batman AA comes to mind.

the_best_player5588d ago

Killzone 3 and Uncharted 3 engines owns both

EvilC5588d ago

played uncharted 2 again yesterday that game still looks amazing even uncharted 1 looks amazing

units5588d ago

both killzone and uncharted are linear as hell

Strange_Evil5588d ago

^^ so when was something like Gears running on Unreal open world? Hell Gears doesn't even allow you to jump a step if it's not in the 'Script' and you always hit an invisible wall which is far more linear than Killzone or Uncharted, at least those games hide their linearity better by scale.

The reason why the games are linear is to provide a more cinematic experience. If there was a dire need of an open world engine I am pretty sure Naughty Dog or Guerilla Games will be up for the task and produce something that could easily challenge these 2 engines.

gijsbrecht5588d ago

@ Units You really think Crysis 2 wil be some open world game? Dream on.

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Solidus187-SCMilk5588d ago

Im sure they tried to use the unreal engine for their games to validate this statement, ohh wait they would never try or even consider this as they make their own engines.

Crytek sure loves to make stupid PR statements about other peoples products, theirs must be lacking possibly?

All I know is that a CRAP LOAD of Awesome games have been made using the unreal engine, while NO awesome games have been made using theirs. Maybe theirs will be the first, but Im starting to doubt it as they seem to talk about other companies and games alot more then they talk about their own.

Im looking forward to this game, but im expecting something amazing with all the talking they have been doing for the last year.

Has anyone heard anything interesting about this game besides the engine and graphics, or how its "better than [insert proven franchise game here]."

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MarioWarfare5588d ago

Imo Gears of war 3 looks better than what I have seen of crysis 2 console versions so far

SuperStrokey11235588d ago

I gotta agree, Crysis 2 just isnt that good looking imo. Gears looks better in that video for sure.

NYC_Gamer5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

@Active Reload

i guess he's talking about these ugly vehicles

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sharingan_no_Kakashi5588d ago

Yup... that's the part of the game I was talking about. But I didn't say the vehicles were ugly. The design of them is actually pretty good. It's just that the textures make it look like they're made of rubber instead of metal.

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Sharingan_no_Kakashi5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

I've actually always thought the weapons, vehicles and even some of the characters in Gears looked like they were made out of rubber.

@Active

In Gears 2 there was this part where you were on a moving vehicle mowing down some locusts and at at the end this huge beast showed up. It all looked like rubber.

Ares84PS35588d ago

Well thing is UE is much older than the CryEngine 3 is it not?

Also I want to see a game running on the CryEngine other than Crysis and I want to see it on consoles not on PC.

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Our Story – Episode 2 – Crysis 2 to Ryse: Son of Rome

Crytek : In episode two of Our Story, the team discusses the evolution of Crysis into Crysis 2 and 3 (and the pressures that came with it), how a local connection landed an incredible collaboration with legendary composer Hans Zimmer, and the New York trip that inspired much of Crysis 2. For the gladiators among you, you’ll also get an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at the development of Ryse: Son of Rome and the attention to detail that went into it.

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The Crysis Trilogy Joins EA Access Vault

Featuring the complete nanosuit experience, The Crysis Trilogy has now joined the EA Access vault as a title that's free for those that subscribe to the EA service on Xbox One consoles.

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Games1st2133d ago (Edited 2133d ago )

Just in time for those that got the month trial.

DrDeath2133d ago

Wait? There is more than one? lol

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Here are Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE & Resident Evil 2 Remake with Ray Tracing

YouTube’s members ‘Digital Dreams’ and ‘Jose cangrejo’ have shared some videos, showcasing Pascal Gilcher’s Reshade mod – which adds Ray Tracing/Path Tracing effects – in some really old games such as Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE and Resident Evil 6.

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traumadisaster2517d ago

I'm still learning how to look for the differences. At first I was focusing on shadows for some reason but I don't think that changes much, is it reflections that change?

rashada072517d ago (Edited 2517d ago )

It is supposed to be simulating how light actually works- so yes if light is reflecting off a surface accurately it should show reflection or an effect that matches what you are looking at in the environment. Next time you play a game look at a puddle of water there may be just a "baked" in texture that if you aren't paying attention seems like it is reflecting but it isn't. I would say though if the light is reflecting more accurately I would think that would give more accurate shadows as well.
I am still not 100% sold on it- it looks okay but I can't get over the hardware price jump for better reflections..

Taz X142517d ago

While games won't look immensely better, it opens up more possibilities overall. Understandably, the price jump is huge. But, that can be said for being at the forefront for any new technology. I'm currently using a 2080ti and while I've played a few games that enable it, the gpu also plays everything else incredibly well so it's not like you're buying this tech for ONLY that option. Enthusiasts will pay top dollar to check out the newest things, but this will eventually become an everyday consumer and by then they'll have optimized and become a lot cheaper.

warriorcase2516d ago

Ray/path tracing can be used how the developer wants it to be. Tracing can be used to calculate shadows/lighting, reflection and even audio, where audio waves are calculated on the bounce off material types to simulate enviroment and echos accuratly.

Should also keep in mind that this ray/path tracing system is different and less accurate option from Nvidias RTX branded type. McFly's is a reshade that layers over the top of the game and therefor the quality will vary drastically. For example you can see nice reflection in the Star Wars demo here but it then introduces colour clipping with the light saber. On a video of GTA 5 for example it was incorrectly projecting a reflection of a red car onto the road which caused a very faint red glow on the ground around the car.

If you want to see a good example of a game developed with ray tracing reflection and lighting in mind then you could look up the youtube video of "Control - Exclusive E3 RTX GAMEPLAY Trailer".

DigitallyAfflicted2516d ago

It supposed to add more realistic light Not actually more light effects and explosions

traumadisaster2516d ago

I hate to say it but I’m fine with fake lights, shadows, reflections. I just kind of like the effect, it’s also great it saves resources for other things.

I’ve been checking out some original Xbox games on x360/x1x and the engine has fake light streaming in through a stained glass window, and I love it even though I know it’s not real time lighting. Heck it even shifts as I move about.

I’ve about convinced my self rt and hdr just doesn’t work for me. Before hdr I would even complain damn why are the headlights killing me they are so bright.

I notice most frame rate, then jaggies, then resolution; with the last two interchangeable depending.

Other day watched an enthusiast rave over 4k and the poor guy was in 1080p. I played the same game the night before and thought wow this is clean, I wonder if it’s 4k, but knew differently and I thought wow even resolution is not always important. The next day he apologized and was surprised he could be fooled.

RaidenBlack2516d ago

EA should have released the Crysis Trilogy Remaster for this gen.

FGHFGHFGH2511d ago

How come the lightsabers don't give off any light? Even in the EA star wars game the guy uses it to light up a dark cave. I guess if it is using frostbite it will support rtx cards.