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Crysis 2 "Better on PC" Due to Console Versions

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Crytek president and creative director, Cevat Yerli, has spoken about their upcoming New York-based first person shooter and how the traditional PC version is actually benefiting from its multiplatform development.

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Substance1015596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

“We could spend much more on Crysis 2 because we expected to sell more through multiplatform development.”

And where did you get those funds from?

Farcry Sold 2.5million units
Crysis 1 sold on 3million units on PC as of may 2010
Crysis warhead sold 1.5million as of may 2010

The Above figures are very respectable figures even for PS3 or Xbox exclusive.

Why havent PC gamers gotten a demo of the game yet?

SuperKing5596d ago

Crytek saw those numbers sold for PC and wondered how much more they would have got for consoles, hence console version announced. Besides, lately is becoming more obvious they left their PC fanbase behind. What with the X360 exclusive 'codename kingdoms', neglecting their modding community and console demo's.

Substance1015596d ago

Well yes if the PC sales figures were bad then they would have had all the reason to ignore the PC base. However with PC sales being healthy, it looks like something else is in play here. Corporate $$ looks like just the thing.

Ju5596d ago

You PC fanboys are a bunch of cry babies. Really.

I can believe him. Optimizations going into the console version will benefit the PC version, too. So why's that bad. And if you want to play it on PC, go ahead and play that. Nothing is taken away from you.

cakeisalie5596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

Lol Ju where is the power of the cell?

why isnt the game running in 1080p on the PS3? Looks like you are plain butthurt. Oh wait there arent any First person shooters on the PS3 running in 1080p, even its own exclusives.. So much for da cell lol.

waterboy5596d ago

pc also isnt running ps3s exclusives at all cause it cant

radphil5596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

"pc also isnt running ps3s exclusives at all cause it cant"

Wow that is a silly statement for the day.

You do realize a console is a PC centralized for gaming right?

They've just been throwing out non-existence excuses to cover themselves for the actual reasons.

Ranshak5596d ago

@Waterboy

"pc also isnt running ps3s exclusives at all cause it cant"

Thats like saying, PS3 cant run Wii games.

Kurylo3d5596d ago

it really is like saying ps3 cant run wii games lol.... The ps3 is like a nintendo gamecube in comparison to todays gaming computers.

Ju5596d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

Like I said. Whiny cry babies.

If I'll Crysis2 I will still get it for my PS3. Simply for the PSN aspect and the trophies and not to bother about that damn PC all the time. I got a Quad and played Crysis (incl. Warhead) there - with MotionJoy. Was one of the best games the PC has. But yet, I don't care about it if I can get the PS3 version - even if it looks inferior.

Now, with Steam-PSN linking that could change. Maybe EA should do what Valve does and release a PS3/Steam version (with both PC & PS3 version). I would do that.

morganfell5595d ago

"You do realize a console is a PC centralized for gaming right?"

Talk about silly timing and location for that statement. While I agree with you the fact is that it isn't console gamers hating on the PC. it is the opther way around. So if you are going to make that comment do so in one of these many "The PC is Superior" threads.

Cervat's statement is a little ridiculous. They are doing anything for praise and to raise expectations. That remark from James Cameron last week was a joke as well considering he has a secret contract with Crytek and they are building Avatar 2 assets for him. Of course he is going to praise them.

badz1495595d ago

suddenly it became a PC vs PS3 thing. come on guys. for Crysis case, there's nothing about superiority of any platform was concerned. EA is publishing the game thus expecting a lot of return, how else to generate more with 1 game? release on more platforms! plain and simple.

forget the power of teh CELL, forget the awesome sauce DX11 ultra HD resolution stuff, you guys aren't playing with each other anyway! at the moment, consoles are a very profitable platform for FPS. everybody wants some piece of that profit.

ProjectVulcan5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

Doesn't bother me if the consoles get a version as long as it does not negatively affect the PC version. If it can improve the PC version then all the better- however the proof of the pudding is in the eating not the baking. If the game sucks inevitably PC gamers will and probably should point the finger at the consoles...

Anyways, I'll play it on PC. You would be stupid not to if you could, because it'll look so much better it'll practically feel like a different title to what console gamers will play. I remember playing Half life 2 on xbox and then going to the PC version, it vaguely resembled the PC version, was a great xbox game, but the machine never could do it full justice. I expect the same here.

MmaFanQc5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

i dont matter since the first crysis was .....meh...and i highly doubt C2 with be better.

the only cool part in the game was when you go inside the "mountain" and messing with the suit for 5-6 minutes...after than its a snore fest.

high res texures and high resolution dont make automatically a good game.

Shepherd 2145595d ago

Ohhhh i see. So the 360 actually has an exclusive(since everyone around here including me thinks the 360 needs more of them) and acording to you its still a bad thing that Cryteks next game is 360 exclusive?

Damned if you do and damned if you dont with this logic.

Ifone5595d ago

@cakeisalie, 1080p is ridiculous, since most of the gamers don't even play on 46" tv and more, the size you have to get to enjoy 720p-1080p differnces... By the way, resolution don't make the greatest graphics ! Best ps3 exclusives have way better graphics than xbox, and most of the time better graphics than pc games : even if some gamers have now a better hardware than a ps3, devs can't make games only for a few richs gamers ! (and don't forget that even with a cpu as good as cell, and a better gpu, you have to deal with windows and others ressources killers)

radphil5595d ago

@morganfell

My statement is directly to what waterboy stated. Nothing more, nothing less.

MarcusFenixITA5595d ago

So if a PS3 is like a Nintendo Gamecube please tell why there isn't anything such impressive like a Uncharted 2 or Killzone 3 on your PC. A few days ago I saw Crysis running on a very good PC and I really thought: That's it? Like when John Cusack entered Room 1408 for the first time.

Computersaysno5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

i'll be honest IFone, you dont really know what you are talking about. Its pretty obvious you do not have a gaming PC or use one regularly just stating that either console has better visuals than PC games.

You really dont need to be saying developers dont use massively superior Pc hardware in a topic about Crysis and Crytek.

It is probably the most ridiculous comment i read in this thread. This is a Crytek game! The makers of Far Cry and Crysis. The absolute cutting edge of game technology! This dev DOES make games for advanced PC hardware, and by advanced, i mean anything faster than console which is not expensive like you would (wrongly) assume it is.

ExplosionSauce5595d ago

Considering how it's always boasted by PC fans as the ultimate graphical achievement all the time :P

evrfighter5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

"why there isn't anything such impressive like a Uncharted 2 or Killzone 3 on your PC"

Why would we be impressed by a Tomb Raider clone and a extremely low res textured generic fps. Tell us why we would be impressed by two games that would look horrible to us and look like its laggin to boot.

30fps is seriously horrible to most pc gamers. when ps3 gets a game that can run at native 1920x1080 60fps minimum which really is night and day to what you think is impressive. Then we can talk.

seeya next-gen cuz it sure as heck aint happening with that ancient ps3 console that should be on the shelves with the atari and the c64.

Gamer_Z5595d ago

Wow i mean Wow. I wasn’t really too hyped for Killzone 3 to be honest, but after seeing those two vids you posted, i was blown away!!! i mean that looks 10x better then Call of Duty 0_0

ExplosionSauce5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

Who's we??
I play on PC as well, but my system isn't quite capable of running a game at 60fps+ and 1080+ smoothly.

There's nothing wrong with 720p and steady 30fps or even 60 like other console games.
Besides, most TVs don't go over 720 or 1080 in the first place.

And in what way is Uncharted a Tomb Raider clone??
I'm a fairly big Tomb Raider fan and I know the differences.
I could probably start naming several games on PC that are extremely similar to each other and call them "clones".
So don't be stupid.

Having very high specs doesn't make up for the lack of artistic design. Uncharted looks amazing and you know it.
You fanboys are the worst.

P.S. This is good news. The fact that they're making Crysis 2 multiplatform allowed them to have a bigger budget and spend more, making the PC version better.

zag5595d ago

If everything has been from the 360 so far then the PC version will be the same as the 360 so it'll be cut back.

I would say this game won't be good on pc and most likly be far too slow paced to allow for console gamers to keep up with the game

jony_dols5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

Haha Evrfighter is a fanboy bitch, and is gonna miss out on the best new franchise (Uncharted) this gen, on any platform. And this is coming from a PC,360 & PS3 gamer.

Hell if Uncharted is a tomb raider clone, then Crysis is a Wolfenstein 3D rip-off......

Enjoy not playing Killzone 3 next month.

starcb265595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

@ evrfighter
We all know you're a troll so just leave us alone.

gta28005595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

I want to see the console version in action on my tv before I decide how good it looks.

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ipe5596d ago

dude u must undestand that publishers and devs want big sales in first few months while price is still high especially on pc where prices goes down much quicker than on consoles. I remember i bought first crysis retail for about 15 pounds month after release(and compare that to 35,40 pounds console release). And it was on steam for like 15$ for last 2 years or more.

3 million is great sale number but its not black and white at all as u can see. Nontheless great sales but crytek is just greedy.

I agree about demo thing its stupid to give middle finger to pc fans.

imvix5596d ago

Well we have to realise as well most of PC sales are digital, which means much more profitable then console versions. If Crysis 1 sold 3 Million on PC, thats solid figure Plus they used the same engine to make further sales with Crysis warhead. So thats 4.5million units overall not bad at all.

Ignoring that base, not giving them a Multiplayer beta or a demo is plain wrong.

Tachyon_Nova5596d ago

As i said in another story about Crytek ditching the pc fans, demo's aren't for fans, they never have been and never will be. Demo's are put out there so that people who are on the fence (ie, not fans who will likely have already pre-ordered) can get a feel for the game.

BUT, I think Crytek do owe the PC community an apology for the way they have completely neglected mentioning details about the PC version.

SJPFTW5596d ago

LOL if only PC gamers stopped pirating their games maybe they would not have left PC exclusive development behind. Crysis was one of the most pirated games since it came out.

Ranshak5596d ago

Yea and how many PS3 or 360 exclusives managed to sell past 3million?

Not many. Crysis sold very well, going multiplat was to increase user base as simple as that.

SJPFTW5595d ago

@Ranshak.

"Yea and how many PS3 or 360 exclusives managed to sell past 3million?"

Let me see Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, God of War and Halo all say hi. Not to mention countless multiplats that do way better on consoles than PCs. Increase userbase? yahh no shit because of piracy and the need for new sources of revenue.

TBM5596d ago

I'm not a PC gamer more comfortable playing on home consoles, but even I know the PC versions of multiplat games are better than the consoles.

You'd have to be a complete retard to believe otherwise.

ct035595d ago

Yes, but we are worried about gameplay changes. For example, making the game play well on a controller may require specific level design, hitboxes etc.

If you have tried playing the first Crysis on a controller, you will know how difficult "Normal" is because the game wasn't designed for controllers.

TBM5595d ago

@ct03

I understand your concerns but I don't think crytek would diss their PC fanbase just for the sake of some sales on consoles.

Even though you never know; I guess we'll just have to see how it turns out in the end.

Vherostar5595d ago

Multi-platform NEVER improves a game to say it does is just lies using money as an excuse is BS as they havn't got that money yet as the games not on shelves. They are probably talking about money as they got a some funds from MS for the "exclusive" demo.

Inside_out5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

What Crytek is saying is that the consoles have the best development going...case closed. No two PC's are the same so making a game with the latest and great equipment doesn't prove anything. At the end of the day it's creativity and making the most with the least that wins the day.

@substance...Halo 3 is still played everyday by thousands and sold 12 million exclusive to one platform...xbox 360... MW2 sold 12 million on 360 and about 20 million for all platforms...that is why Crysis is on consoles. Halo Reach, while at this point not anywhere near 12 million yet ( 3 months old ) but it has sold several million, is top 3 on XBL and is enjoyed by hundreds of thousands every week...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Take a look at this multi-player trailer for Gears 3...nothing like it anywhere on any system...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Crysis looks good but I will reserve judgement until I see the final product. I think there has been alot of manipulation of the footage from the PC version to appear as the console version...still, it looks good. The beta will definitely tell us more...Here's an older video of the multi-player different then yesterdays release...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The new trailer shows alot of great features BUT I think it shows alot of PC footage...the frame rate and fidelity on some of the scenes are beyond current gen systems...if that's the case, they are only fooling themselves...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here's some single player game play with commentary that is suppose to be 360 game play...the lighting alone tells you differently...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

HolyOrangeCows5595d ago

Crytech
Why you no give PC gamers demo?

They made you, Crytech. And now you give the 360 an exclusive MP demo?

kewlkat0075595d ago

"pc also isnt running ps3s exclusives at all cause it cant"

Wow this site has not changed much...Lowest common fanboys on here...

madjedi5595d ago (Edited 5595d ago )

@kewlkat Aside from bad grammar and spelling, care to explain how the statement is false?

Pc's cannot run ps3 exclusives, because the coding isn't the same, just like with a 360 exclusive on a ps3 ect.

@cake maybe because 720p is the most acceptable resolution, given the limited memory the ps3 and 360 has. I'd rather have crazy amounts of action @720p then a ghost town at 1080p resolution.

And yes for 5+ yr old tech the cell is doing rather well despite being handicaped by not enough memory. So were is the actual problem with the cell again?

But i am either talking to a multi account troll(joined dec 2010), or idiot pc jackass that is stupidly comparing generations old hardware to brand new hardware that utilizes many improvements.

@kewlkat thats extremely tame for a n4g comment, and i can remember some of your comments that weren't exactly nonfanboyish either.

kewlkat0075594d ago

@madjedi - That was just a stupid statement...

"Pc's cannot run ps3 exclusives, because the coding isn't the same, just like with a 360 exclusive on a ps3 ect."

Really.....naaaaaw, I didn't know that. Say it ain't so joe.../s

ChrisW5595d ago

PS3's RXS GPU is approximately the equivalent of nVidia 7800. There have been 7 generations of graphics cards that have come out since then. The predicted PC requirements for GPU in Crysis 2 may possibly be nVidia 240GTS. Which is 4 generations up from the 7800. In laymen terms, comparing the latest GPU with the PS3's GPU is like comparing PS2 with PS3's GPU.

As for the CPU... well it's "teh Cell!"

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gillri5596d ago

all the screenies have been 360 so far and they look incredible!

so obviously I cant to see PC version,

although in terms of hadrware utilisation console are trumps, this is 5 year old hardware! its amazing what you can squeeze out of console hardware

reynod5596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

Not really, You could run Crysis 1 with a 7800GTX (which is the GPU present in the PS3). Crysis 1 with a 7800GTX would run in 720p and with med res textures.

Guess what settings the console versions of Crysis 2 is running in? about the same as stated above. Had the console version been running in 1080p with 2-4x AA along with hi res textures that would be a marvel. Console version is doing exactly what 5yr old PC hardware would be doing today.

Edit: I played the Crysis 1 with a 8800GTX back in 2007, i played it at 1080p with High settings (not very high, with NO AA). Game ran flawlessly at 40fps. We can expect the same 4 yr old GPU to run Crysis 2 in 1080p High settings.

waterboy5596d ago

its not that simple pc noob when cell and rsx are as one its not just that gpu or is that not evident yet

SnakeMustDie5596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

Crysis 2 is shaping up to be a great game. Im definitely getting the PC version too bad Crytek is slowly abandoning their PC fanbase.

Ryudo5596d ago

How does expanding there market to console games mean abandoning the PC community?

reynod5596d ago

How about not providing your primary base with a Demo, while giving it to the 360 base?

How would the PS3 community feel if one of their previous exclusives wennt multiplat, then the Demo was exclusive to the other platform?

Ryudo5596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

It's a demo man am sure 95 percent of the world just doesn't care like myself, fact is Crysis is well established in the PC community we don't need a demo.

Console gamers do because unless they have researched Crysis they have no idea what to expect, so to promote there game they need to release demo's to the console community obviously.

Tachyon_Nova5596d ago

+1 for Ryudo. As this smart man points out, us PC gamers (specifically Crysis fans) already know what to expect, we don't need a Demo!

radphil5596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

@Ryudo

Actually a demo also helps to see if your rig can support it most of the time.

Thing is I would agree on the statement about introducing it to the console community, but you have to ask why centralize it onto 1, and not 2 for a demo?

ct035595d ago

What are you people talking about? Having played the Crysis games, I DO NOT know what to expect. I do not know how much consolization there is. I do not know how a linear New York compares to a semi-open jungle.

Crysis 2 seems very different from the original games, and I sure as heck will not buy it "blind" because none of the footage and screenshots I've seen have blown me away at all.

SixZeroFour5595d ago

demos arent for the fans, its to help make decisions for ppl that arent sure they want to buy it...pc gamers are already familiar with crysis 1 so the fans are already most likely going to get it, for console owners, they arent sure how it will play out with a controller, so they help them out by letting them TEST the game out

ps3 prolly doesnt have a demo cause crytek isnt sure if theyll even buy it considering ps3 will have many games coming out for 2011, xbox 360 not so much, so more ppl on 360 are most likely going to consider it

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floetry1015596d ago

I'll be getting the Ps3 and PC version of the game. I'm expecting huge things for the PC release.

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Snakefist305596d ago

I Think he is getting the ps3 version cause of the online multiplayer!

Commander_TK5596d ago

PC version has multiplayer too. It's probably because of trophies.

floetry1015596d ago (Edited 5596d ago )

@PS3thebest, I'm getting the PS3 version mainly for my brother, me, friends, online etc. I own Crysis on PC and I love playing on my rig as well.

Why all the animosity for saying that I'd get both?

badz1495595d ago

good for you. gamers like you are the ones keeping the industry running. go buy as many copies as you can, man!

Inzo5596d ago

I dont think this game is going to do as well as crytek hopes, not on the PS3 anyway not with Infamous 2 rumored to release about the same time and with all the great exclusives on the way and I think most of the xbox gamers will be holding out for Gears 3.

cakeisalie5596d ago

They intended to replicate the success of COD, however there isnt another FPS on the market which has done that.

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Games1st2138d ago (Edited 2138d ago )

Just in time for those that got the month trial.

DrDeath2138d ago

Wait? There is more than one? lol

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traumadisaster2522d ago

I'm still learning how to look for the differences. At first I was focusing on shadows for some reason but I don't think that changes much, is it reflections that change?

rashada072522d ago (Edited 2522d ago )

It is supposed to be simulating how light actually works- so yes if light is reflecting off a surface accurately it should show reflection or an effect that matches what you are looking at in the environment. Next time you play a game look at a puddle of water there may be just a "baked" in texture that if you aren't paying attention seems like it is reflecting but it isn't. I would say though if the light is reflecting more accurately I would think that would give more accurate shadows as well.
I am still not 100% sold on it- it looks okay but I can't get over the hardware price jump for better reflections..

Taz X142522d ago

While games won't look immensely better, it opens up more possibilities overall. Understandably, the price jump is huge. But, that can be said for being at the forefront for any new technology. I'm currently using a 2080ti and while I've played a few games that enable it, the gpu also plays everything else incredibly well so it's not like you're buying this tech for ONLY that option. Enthusiasts will pay top dollar to check out the newest things, but this will eventually become an everyday consumer and by then they'll have optimized and become a lot cheaper.

warriorcase2521d ago

Ray/path tracing can be used how the developer wants it to be. Tracing can be used to calculate shadows/lighting, reflection and even audio, where audio waves are calculated on the bounce off material types to simulate enviroment and echos accuratly.

Should also keep in mind that this ray/path tracing system is different and less accurate option from Nvidias RTX branded type. McFly's is a reshade that layers over the top of the game and therefor the quality will vary drastically. For example you can see nice reflection in the Star Wars demo here but it then introduces colour clipping with the light saber. On a video of GTA 5 for example it was incorrectly projecting a reflection of a red car onto the road which caused a very faint red glow on the ground around the car.

If you want to see a good example of a game developed with ray tracing reflection and lighting in mind then you could look up the youtube video of "Control - Exclusive E3 RTX GAMEPLAY Trailer".

DigitallyAfflicted2522d ago

It supposed to add more realistic light Not actually more light effects and explosions

traumadisaster2522d ago

I hate to say it but I’m fine with fake lights, shadows, reflections. I just kind of like the effect, it’s also great it saves resources for other things.

I’ve been checking out some original Xbox games on x360/x1x and the engine has fake light streaming in through a stained glass window, and I love it even though I know it’s not real time lighting. Heck it even shifts as I move about.

I’ve about convinced my self rt and hdr just doesn’t work for me. Before hdr I would even complain damn why are the headlights killing me they are so bright.

I notice most frame rate, then jaggies, then resolution; with the last two interchangeable depending.

Other day watched an enthusiast rave over 4k and the poor guy was in 1080p. I played the same game the night before and thought wow this is clean, I wonder if it’s 4k, but knew differently and I thought wow even resolution is not always important. The next day he apologized and was surprised he could be fooled.

RaidenBlack2522d ago

EA should have released the Crysis Trilogy Remaster for this gen.

FGHFGHFGH2517d ago

How come the lightsabers don't give off any light? Even in the EA star wars game the guy uses it to light up a dark cave. I guess if it is using frostbite it will support rtx cards.