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Will Sony Ever Learn? A PSP2 Perspective

PSUni writes "Over the course of the last twenty years we've watched, as gamers, as Nintendo completely dominated the handheld market. Not only did Nintendo dominate with no competition, but when competitors decided to step up and introduce rival platforms like the SEGA Game Gear, Nintendo held its ground and sent its competition packing -- that is, until the PlayStation Portable."

RSPproductionz5597d ago

i think sony have learned that gamers want AAA games and not timed exclusives, timed dlc, billion dollar advert campaigns and shoddy hardware.
but will these fanboy sites ever learn?

Dark_Charizard5597d ago

We are Sony.

Stealing ideas since 1958

Iamback5597d ago

Agree with article.
PSP2 seems to be same thing that was or is PSP. PSP was bad version of PS2, PSP2 will be bad version of PS3. Releasing home console games on handheld system on paper sounds cool, awesome, until you play it and realize that you are playing lesser version of a game that would be freaking awesome on your home console.
To name a few PSP games. Peace Walker, God of War games, Resistance Retribution (would have been incredible on PS3), Syphon Fitler games, that JSRPG that has 2 and 3rd game on PSP. etc. I think i made my point.
Same will be with PSP2. Uncharted on PSP2 will make you say "Why isn't this on PS3, it would look better and play better".
But of course ignorant narrow minded people will just hit disagree button.
Either way as it stands now PSP2 lacks selling point. 3ds has 3D, which is according to N4G gimmick when it comes to DS and it being glassless but when it comes to PS3 and wearing douchbag glasses its the future and incredible!!!

StbI9905597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Ignorant narrow minded huh...?

How about not thinking of it as a lesser version but more of a portable which you can take along? I've had quite a time playing Valkirie chronicles on the go, could that be done with the game on the ps3? the same for the psp2, an uncharted game on the psp2 with the same if not around 1rst-gent ps3 graphic on the go with around two to three hours of gameplay?

3DS has 3D, psp2 will have games, games that will make any...ANY gamers want it, just by looking at the ps3 library, I'm set to believe in, but again, blame the piracy hence the psp and no the few good games it at least got.

nycredude5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Iamback

go back to school dude your comment is one of the most retarded one I've ever read, even by N4g standards. Jebus kids this is your brain on drugs.

it's a portable not the Ps3, you don't expect Ds to have Wii graphics do you? Judging by sales I woudl hardly said Nintendo Dominated. There is only two portables so not much competition. Psp despite being "dominated" by Nintendo still sold a lot of psp. No one else has even been able to hang like this.

Pedantic915597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

"Releasing home console games on handheld system on paper sounds cool, awesome, until you play it and realize that you are playing lesser version of a game that would be freaking awesome on your home console."

Uh huh.

*Takes a look at the 3DS*

- Super Street Fighter IV 3D
- The Sims 3
- Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater 3D "The Naked Sample"
- Mario Kart
- Paper Mario
- Star Fox 64 3D
- Kingdom Hearts franchise
- Final Fantasy Dimensions
- Dynasty Warriors
- Ninja Gaiden
- Samurai Warriors 3D
- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
- Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

"I think i made my point."

Sure, whatever you say boyo.

SoapShoes5597d ago

@Iamback

So what if the PSP had ports of PS2? I always wondered why that was looked down on, having a portable PS2 is awesome. Plus the DS had its fair share of console ports(namely Snes ports galore) only it had tons of ports from previous gen consoles. That's how Nintendo works... GBA had Nes ports, DS had Snes and some N64 ports.

HappyGaming5597d ago

@lamback
I can see how you wouldn't need a PSP but people like us who actually live our homes and can't play on our awesome home consoles all day do want something to play with when we can.

HolyOrangeCows5597d ago

"PSP2 seems to be same thing that was or is PSP. PSP was bad version of PS2, PSP2 will be bad version of PS3"

I like how you fanboys already know what the PSP2 will be. "Soniez will fail against Nintendo again!"
There's a good chance that Sony doesn't try to make it too powerful or have worthless bells and whistles, and they have the upperhand with price and control scheme (Hint: 2-control sticks).

firefoxprime5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

What Lamback says is absolutely true on "some" points. Pertaining to downgraded versions of ps3 titles? To eaches own. If you like your AAA games on the tiny screen, more power to ya. I would be hypocritical to judge the psp titles, because "when" the 3ds launches, I want me some SSFIV3D. Yes. A "port". Awesome game nontheless. But mind you that title is a "direct" port. Its not a side story thats fitted specifically for the 3DS, a la (all those multiplat wii and ds games). Nope. Just a slightly less graphical sibling to its big brother.

I believe Peace Walker and GOW are good examples of side quest games. Great games, yet this is where the complaints start brewing. Complaints such as "where's my 2nd analog?" Its a handheld man. Granted advancement in tech is expected, its not the console experience. I believe many gamers fall into that loop. Because graphics are really good, the gamers are indirectly under the impression that they're playing the console game. Which then leads to the comlpaints of controls. Other ex. are the L2 R2 buttons. buttons needed for "cosole" games. Not handhelds.

My view points are strictly neutral. I love my Nintendo "and" Sony as well. Got the systems/handhelds to boot. We definetly don't need anymore fanboys spewing "Blasphemy!!!". Ya got any solid criticism? Toss it my way. I'm all ears. But...keep it short. I only got 2 bubbles. *sniffles*

@STBl990: "How about not thinking of it as a lesser version but more of a portable which you can take along?"

Its a little bit of both man. Go play transfomers war for cybertron on the PS360. Great right? Now go play it on the ds. Assasins Creed? console vs ds? yeah. Star Wars force unleashed? great game. on psp? still great game, but not the "same" game(tweeks in story and such). The wii version of SWFU? nuff said.

@nycredude: "it's a portable not the Ps3, you don't expect Ds to have Wii graphics do you?"

So true man. If the rumors about the "top secret" psp2 are true(hehe), then that graphical power could very well be close to the ps3. Who know what'll be under the hood.

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smoothdude5597d ago

The only thing that saved the psp was homebrew. I have two psps that I use exclusively for emulators.

ThanatosDMC5597d ago

Pretty sure that's what made publishers stay away from the PSP.

saint_john_paul_ii5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

"The only thing that saved the psp was homebrew. I have two psps that I use exclusively for emulators."

No thats what killed it or put it on life support, cause Homebrew evidently led to piracy, which led to publishers to stay away from it for a long time.

This is what could happen to the PS3 with all that hacking going on the console.

HappyGaming5597d ago

Which is when Sony will announce PS4.
I can't wait for it imagine every game looking better than Uncharted 3 on PS4...

rrw5597d ago

actually there is hope that it will cost less than 200.

assuming that it use same technology of ps3 but smaller (4 instead of 8) processor and no blue ray player (which is reason why it's expensive) it possible to get around 200 mark

the_best_player5597d ago

Come R* make gta san andreas stories for PSP2

Jamegohanssj55597d ago

ROFLMFAO! I couldn't tell if that was sarcasm or not.

TGSI

Azmacna5597d ago

another day, another round of Sony bashing. when will the haters ever learn?

FragGen5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

PSP has sold 60million+ units. As of 10/2010 it has outsold both the Xbox 360 and PS3. If that is what you "If you ain't first, you're last!" in-bred hater morons call failure I think Sony probably hopes the PSP2 will "fail" in just the same way.

The PSP is a spectacular success from a business perspective. The Sonys are the Ferraris of handhelds not the Volkswagens. They cost more, they don't sell as many, but which one do you WANT?

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ZombieAssassin5597d ago

I don't want Sony to be like NiN, i don't want last gen or earlier tech in my handhelds and home consoles just so they can sell it cheaper than the competition to try and get an edge. Sony has always been about top of the line technology and you pay more for that, yea it's not going to fly well at first with the younger kids and their parents at first with a higher price point but for the somewhat older (aka have money of their own to spend) they will see the pretty graphics and the franchises they love to play at home and figure "hey i'd like to be able to play those on the go". Then when the price goes down the younger kids will be able to talk mommy and daddy into buying them one if it has games that interest them.

Besides we all know the main attraction for NiN consoles and that's Mario, you put a mario game on a gaming device and it'll sell massively and that's how NiN has always dominated the handheld market.

DavePSU5597d ago

No credit given to Pokemon whatsoever?

ZombieAssassin5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Ha my bad i completey forgot about Pokemon, so yes pokemon might have done more than Mario because i remember buying a GBC just to play Pokemon as did damn near everyone i went to school with...god we were lame.

EDIT: It's true Sony doesn't really have a Pokemon for it's handhelds but to me anyways Sony has always been more about variety with it's games than hoping the same franchise stays popular for decades.

I also feel the same way i'd rather play GoW or Uncharted on my Ps3 rather than a handheld but if you can have both would you really complain?

I don't think anyone will ever take away the top spot from NiN in the dedicated gaming handheld device (at least not anytime soon) but I give props to Sony for being able to stay in the game with them even if they are being outsold 2-1.

DavePSU5597d ago

People still buy Nintendo hand helds just to play the latest color of Pokemon -- the problem is...where is Sony's Pokemon?

As a Sony gamer, I'd much rather play God of War on my HDTV than on my PSP (though, obviously it's great on the PSP as well).

Cenobia5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

@DavePSU

Folklore 2 for PSP2?

The original was a little like Pokemon. Could be pretty cool if they improved on the original a bit. It's a game I would play, but wouldn't necessarily prefer a PS3 version.

Dark_Charizard5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Are you smoking weed man? PS1 and PS2 were both less powerful than N64 and Xbox, GCN...

WTF@ your comment! Are you 10 years old?

@Below - Man... I don't think you realize ur on a gaming site and that we don't discuss tech apart from SCEA's. Go troll on techspy cuz dis isn't da place 4 u! Ur N64 arguement is absolute BS man. Stop posting lies and get a life... noob

ZombieAssassin5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Umm yea i am smoking but thats not the point and you are only focusing on 2 Sony products, have you forgot about the TV's, CD players, Blu-ray players, Video camera's and all the other electronics they make.

Even if the N64 was more powerful it never showed it prolly due to NiN trying to hold on to cartridges.

@Above

Ok i realize you are just trolling me so i'll stop now and seriously have fun man, its prolly the most you'll ever get in your life.

theonlylolking5597d ago

The PS1 was more powerful than the N64 and yes the xbox was more powerful than the PS2 but they have been on top of technology. PS1 CD and PS2 DVD. Now when the PS2 came out DVD was not as new but it was still pretty top of the line at the time.

sleepy35597d ago

LOL

Ps1, Ps2, TV's have NOT been the most technical, they are actually behind in smart TV tech, they are behind in phone tech (sony phones suck compared to HTC), and rememeber how advanced the revisions of the walkman was compared to the ipod no matter how many times they tried? The vaio is overpriced for the les than state of the art hardware that is available from other pc manufacturers. Not to mention their desktops are far from the most advanced.

I don't know where you get your info kid, but Sony is NOT always the technological leader.

ChickeyCantor5597d ago

"Sony has always been about top of the line technology"

You mean to promote
DVD's and Blurays!?

I kid you sir, calm down.

SnakeMustDie5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

PSP should be different from the DS. If both are the same, what is the point of buying one over the other? With a PSP/PSP2, I can have my shooter/adventure game on the go. With a DS/3Ds, I can play casual games and RPGs on the go.

DavePSU5597d ago

You carry 2 hand held platforms with you and a cell phone? To me, that just seems like the opposite of the whole point of gaming on the go.

It's not a matter of both devices being the same, it's a matter of hitting key demographics and target audiences that Sony is missing out on by continually going the direction they have been going in. Sony is always going to be a business first and foremost and its goal is always going to be to own more market share than the other guy -- they'll never achieve that goal with this type of plan.

SnakeMustDie5597d ago

I place them in a bag and take them out when I want to game.

kneon5597d ago

But they are getting market that Nintendo is missing out on. It's not usually a good idea to go directly head to head with the biggest player in a market. Look at the Wii, it didn't succeed by going after the core gamer, it went after a different demographic. It got some of the core gamers but that's a minor part of their demographic.

ChickeyCantor5597d ago

" With a DS/3Ds, I can play casual games and RPGs on the go."

you make it sound like NDS has nothing more =(.

B-Real2065597d ago

If the rumors are true then I want something like remote play version 2. I have two PSPs as well and I love the little media machine. 299 for what their going to offer you over the long run is nothing. I'm pretty sure most phones these days cost alot more.....I do realize that this will not have phone capabilities but I was just using that as an example. Even if you get it subsidized it still cost alot over a period of time. Shit I payed a little over 500 for my touch pro 2 when it came out. It can do alot but not 500 dollars alot. I just didn't want to be locked into a contract. So the PSP2 might not be for everyone but I want it and they haven't even announced it yet. I'm just going by my feelings about the psp. Alot of good games on that system. Anyways end ramble

Bluemaster775597d ago

The PSP 2 Wont "Fail" Per se as seen with the First PSP but it wont achieve the world renown or commercial success as the 3DS provided the entirety its user base doesn't go blind

iceman065597d ago

Good point...and I think that Sony is fine with that. There is enough money in this area to be shared and as long as Sony is making some of it, that's all that matters. In a way, Sony is approaching the business in the handheld market similar to Xbox (minus the treasure trove of cash to throw). They just want to try and bite into the market share as much as they can and get those extra bucks. In the end, they want to appeal to their core as much as Nintendo does. Each company just has a different core mentality and strategy with which they attempt to do this.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted14d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8514d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele13d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk13d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay13d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10114d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit13d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg13d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10113d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14913d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_27d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle26d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit26d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog27d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog27d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad27d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_27d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage27d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda26d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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U.S. patent examiner rejects Nintendo’s summoning characters patent as obvious: non-final ruling

The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7740d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.