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HD DVD Combo Discs - What Went Wrong?

A long-time movie buff and collector of discs from laserdisc to DVD, Joshua Zyber is a veteran disc reviewer, and an enthusiastic supporter of all things High Definition. In his twice-monthly High-Def Digest column, Josh discusses a broad range of topics of interest to other early adopters.

In this article, Josh discusses the burdens of the HD DVD combo discs.

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WilliamRLBaker6747d ago (Edited 6747d ago )

OK THATS IT SAFARI SUX!I just spent 15 minutes writing that out....and it only posted the first line!!!

DAMIT!

Ok heres the jist of it, HD DVD combo discs aren't good because movie buffs aren't liable to use them *which is stupid, a movie buff wants the best and will see the versatility in the combo disc*

Regular users wont buy it cause they wont take advantage of the hd dvd side. * DUH No they will buy the dvd version of the movie, A combo disc is only for someone who plans on purchasing an hd dvd player in the future*

HD DVD users find it a rip off they have to pay extra for extra functions...WOW on average combo discs cost 2-5 dollars more then the blu ray version, And your paying for an dvd side that gives you extra functionality.

Let alone a combo disc is a good trojan horse plan, People will buy it because they think its a good deal, And its a versatile idea.

A dvd side that plays in any dvd drive, and an hddvd side, Portable players will play it, you can take it with you on a trip and if u cant find a hd dvd player your set, And if you can only find an sdtv you wanna use the dvd side because dvd quality looks better on sdtvs then hdtvs, The quality of the encoded video doesn't do good when u downgrade it to just an sdtv view.

The combo format is a great thing and thats a simple fact.

THUNDERMARE6747d ago (Edited 6747d ago )

Its about reliability. I dont have HD-DVD, but the author said that although $2-$5 might sound like a good deal in theory, but some people found the idea of purchasing HD-DVD to watch DVD on the other side ridiculous. But the bigger point is that combo format have some reliability issue, but since I dont have one I dont really care.

However, I have to comment on one thing, if you are a customer who still not decide what format to buy, then you walk up to the HD format shelf and found that some HD-DVD are $5 more expensive than Blu-Ray (and I mean ordinary customers who dont know what exactly HD-DVD or Blu-Ray are.) counterpart, how would you feel about HD-DVD?

Lord Anubis6747d ago

I didn't know HD-DVD combo discs had issues.

blackmagic6746d ago

The combo discs have had some issues but they aren't as widespread as the authour implies them to be. Some Blu-ray discs have had disc-rot issues but similarly, it is not widespread and has also had little effect on the format in general. In both cases, I believe that as long as the publisher is willing to replace the disc with a new copy then it is really not a significant issue and in both cases, that is exactly what is happening.

Pekka6747d ago

I should add one reason why many people don't like combo discs. I know a lot of people who don't like dual-sided DVDs because they are more difficult to handle (to some at least) and more prone to scratches and finger prints. I doubt most people actually care about pictures on other side of disc.

Of course higher price is the biggest reason why most don't like about them, especially because most buyers of HD DVDs don't use them on DVD players.

Bathyj6747d ago

I agree with both points you made.

I hate double sided disks and I'm a person whose very careful even handling cheap old cd's. Finger in the middle, thumb on the edge, never touch the surface. It doesn't matter, one side at least always get dirty and smudged. Its a fact. Its like murphys law or something. Even double sided disk in surgery conditions would get dirty and scratched some how.

And as for the price, yeah I dont want to pay more when I only want the HD version of the movie. If I desparately needed it on DVD I'd just be happy with the HD version for a month and then get it cheap.

PS
I dont have a HDDVD player, this is just my opinion which happens to agree with yours.

BlackCountryBob6747d ago

Relevance to games? This article is about movies, post this on News4movielovers.com not here!

blackmagic6746d ago

And that's why it is posted in the tech section. I do believe that the industry section is probably a more appropriate place though since the formats do have heavy tie-ins with the 360 and especially the PS3.

stonedog6747d ago

I think that given the competition between the two formats the smart move for the HD-DVD to make would be to provide the dual disc at the same price as the regular DVD as this would truly make it a Trojan horse. If the consumer is on the fence he is not going to buy a disc that gives him DVD functionality as a bonus feature b/c he is paying for a format that is yet to be established. He will buy a DVD that gives him bonus functionality in HD-DVD playability accordingly he should be paying the regular DVD price. If then he has a large collection of DVD which can then also be played on then be played on the HD DVD machine he will have a heavy incentive to purchase same As this will certainly reduce the his sense that he will have to buy his collection all over again. So if you like that is my view of what HD-DVD is doing wrong. It may be expensive for them but so are the incentives paid to the studios.

blackmagic6746d ago

I agree, if they wanted it to truly be a trojan, then it would be at the price of DVD. They wouldn't even need to do it with every release, just the high profile ones. The pricing does suggest that it isn't really targeted as 'trojan'. The ability to play the movie on regular dvd players is a nice option but not really worth the extra cost imo.

One point not mentioned in the article is that it takes a little fear out of the purchase in the sense that if HD-DVD fails the format war, then atleast you can still play the disc in the machines that are on the market. A bit of a safety blanket if you will...

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Darryl Linington from Notebookheck writes: "Keebmon is a crowdfunded foldable workstation concept that combines a Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 PC, a 13-inch ultrawide touchscreen, and a low-profile mechanical keyboard in a single aluminum device."

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Sony has patented a touchscreen controller that lets players choose where to put the buttons

Standard controllers aren’t comfortable for everyone…

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Flawlessmic31d ago

As an accessibility option for those that need it im all for it. As the standard control for ps6 helllll noo, touch controller would be the absolute worst.

Eonjay30d ago

Reading the patent itself this does seem to be intended with accessibility in mind as it attempts to solve comfort issues that some users have with overall size and placement. Im completely fine with the current layout but its nice to know this option is there. It is intended to allow customers the ability to resize the controller to there liking even those the company may not manufacture that size. So, its cool to see they are thinking like this even though this product may not be for me. I would still love to see it release and see the potential use cases.

Goodguy0130d ago

Digital will always be worse than physical buttons for 99% of gaming lol.

DivineHand12530d ago

This is interesting not only for accessibility reasons, but as a way to give players more control over their in game characters for core gamers.

I remember seeing the Tactus pop up buttons at CES 13 years ago and I was excited for the technology but I am not aware of any devices that used it.

The way gaming controllers are presented today is great, but I will always advocate for innovation in giving players more control and increased immersion.

MetalNCarnet30d ago

Terrible idea. For most games, you need to feel the physical buttons because you're not looking at the controller. I hope they aren't serious.

fr0sty30d ago

Unless they've worked out a way for tactile feedback so you can feel them. Perhaps little air bladders that could inflate when a button is placed in that position, placed under a flexible screen? Maybe it wouldn't be the best controller for all of us, but I know people who have medical conditions that make holding traditional controllers very uncomfortable with their default button layouts, this could help them.

Duke1930d ago (Edited 30d ago )

More accessibility options is never a bad thing, but man I hate that all electronics seem to be pushing touchscreen controls on everything.

They are just garbage

badz14930d ago

We are at the point in time when touch screen controls are cheaper to make than physical buttons. Just look at modern cars. More and more system controls are moved to the central screen now that all new cars come with screens. It's downright ironic too, considering just not that many years ago, people were warn to not use their phone while driving. Now all controls are moved to the central screen that you can't help but looking at screens while driving.

fr0sty30d ago

EXCEPT trying to connect your phone, lol. They make you stop to do that. But the big screen that is every bit as distracting as a phone, it's cool.

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