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This Is How Kinect Turns Your Face into a Talking Avatar

At CES 2011, Microsoft unveiled Avatar Kinect, a new Xbox 360 app that uses the Kinect camera to track your facial expressions for a personalized, glorified chatroom. Just what does Avatar Kinect see? More than you might think.

This brief tech demo illustrates how Kinect follows the head and multiple points on a person's face to interpret their expressions and movement. What is now being translated into rather simple emotes and animation on Xbox Live Avatars will hopefully be used for greater purposes in the future.

SMOK3xFFx5614d ago

That is really cool, it even knows when his teeth are showing.

Bigpappy5614d ago (Edited 5614d ago )

But this is going to be one of those thing that you don't think you want, but once you have it, it become part of the culture.

People will have a lot of fun with this. Scary cool!

TroyAndAbed5614d ago

It's cool, but I don't think people will use it.

You have been able to plan war strategies in PlayStation Home for about two years now...

...and yet...

Cool things don't always get used.

kaveti66165613d ago

It will get used if MS markets it enough.

FragMnTagM5613d ago

I haven't used home in a while, but is voice chat still missing? That is one of the biggest reasons I never used it for planning a strategy before games. That and you can't talk to your friends while you are booting up and loading a game. It is much simpler on XBL to plan a strategy with party chat and cross game invites.

Home could have been great for that, but PSN is missing some features that would make it more feasible to use.

Darkfocus5613d ago

why would you do this when you can just do regular face to face webchat with your real face....I could understand ingame lip syncing like uncharted does(and they could add facial expressions too with kinect) but it's rather pointless to do this instead of regular webcam sessions...

UnwanteDreamz5613d ago (Edited 5613d ago )

I disagree

I think lots of people would rather use an avatar then their real face. Anon but with expressions. It may not be the most useful thing Kinect does but I think its cool enough.

Rainstorm815613d ago

So now the 360 has 3 different chat modes (regular video chat, Kinect chat , and avatar kinect)?

I think this is waste of resources....

@darkfocus

1 word....Anonymity

mastiffchild5613d ago

Avatars are among the most camp things on the planet and I'd NEVER consider using this as a result.

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ApocalypseShadow5614d ago (Edited 5614d ago )

technology looks familiar....
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

like microsoft has been watching old youtube videos on sony products and ideas.too bad the tech is not exclusive to just depth cameras.all software...

BrianG5614d ago

It is interesting technology, kinda cool its being put into games now.

They did have some interesting face tracking for the Eye toy, haven't seen to much for the PSeye except for that video you provided. Would be cool to put this in Home though.

Bigpappy5614d ago (Edited 5614d ago )

You can clearly see from your own Vid that Kinect is tracking way more points than the Eye.

It is obvious that Sony had spent some time looking at uses for camera tech. But what have they done with it? Why is it that M$ can now come on the scene and use their ideas to entertain its base? Why didn't Sony patten the ideas?

May be the Eyetoy was not powerful enough to do the entire face. May be Sony abandon the tech because they could not find a good use for it. May be they cut the money for research needed to take it to the level it is now. What ever the problem was that stop them from getting to this point, it is too late now. M$ has beat them to it yet again, and Sony now has to seem like they are copying or just eat crow.

If Sony has all of these wonderful ideas, and don't want to develope them, may be they should just hand them over to M$ so people who enjoy the tech will have more to enjoy. This is why I was so happy when I read that M$ had bought 3DV. I was entrigued by the tech and wanted to get a chance to use it. I knew M$ was the ideal company to take this to the next level. They are doing better than I expected.

I really wish Sony would jump back in, with a depth sensing camera, and give M$ some real competition. It would help to advance things a lot quicker, and if the inovation are any good, they could sell some consoles as a bonus.

TroyAndAbed5614d ago

Maybe they decided to develop good games instead?

deadreckoning6665613d ago (Edited 5613d ago )

^^And how do you know good games aren't in development for Kinect as well? Between the Move and Kinect, Dance Central is currently the highest rated motion game since the launch of both devices.

Let me guess...Microsoft paid off 50 different reviewers right? Gimme a break. If its that hard for you to accept that gamers are actually enjoying Kinect games, then your an extremely bitter one dimensional person.

Legacy_Killa5613d ago (Edited 5613d ago )

The thing i notice with M$ is that they will put anything out that they think some people will like. Such as the GameRoom which is a flop so they're going to take it off soon. Sony is a company that don't just put something out that some people will like they need more then some just look at home it's growing over 16 million people on it.

I will say this about M$ they know how to get money. They're just adding more stuff so people can get Kinect but for $150 and you need to be a gold member they are making easy money off people lolz.

awesomeperson5613d ago

@dead I think he means that they are focussing on good NON motion games.

I would prefer an awesome controller game over an awesome motion controller feature anyday.

Motion controlls aren't my thing in 99% of cases (in some cases, they feel better and more intuitive to use than a normal controller).

TroyAndAbed5613d ago

I don't care if Dance Central is the highest rated.

I've been to parties with both Move and Kinect. Kinect is a JOKE. I'd think you could understand that by now. To the majority of uninformed Americans, Kinect is the new craze. To those of us who crave fun AND depth...Kinect is pathetic.

I can tell you for a fact that most people who have played both Dance Central and Singstar +Dance...don't choose to continue playing Dance Central. ;)

This isn't a Move vs. Kinect thing here. This is a Kinect vs. anything good thing.

It's not hard for me to accept that gamers are actually enjoying Kinect games. It WOULD be hard for me to accept gamers enjoying Kinect games...if they WERE enjoying Kinect games. They aren't. How many people on your friends list are playing a Kinect game right now? I gotta tell ya...none of my friends are. They're playing Gears of War 2, Halo: Reach, The Orange Box, The Darkness, and...some guy decided to try out Perfect Dark: Zero. (Poor sucker...)

Kinect is a one-off.

I'm one-dimensional? I'm bitter? You've assessed me as a human being from one comment on a gaming news forum.

Maybe I am one-dimensional. Maybe I am bitter. I can live with being a bitter, one-dimensional person. I couldn't live with being whatever you are.

Jeff2575613d ago

Sony learned over the years of working with the EyeToy and PSEye that some games you just need something more than a camera to play. Hence their building Move. it gives you the ability of a camera with the necessary buttons and motion controls for other games. MS may have done well to buy 3DV and their tech in your eyes. But that is where they will ultimately fail with Kinect. They didnt develop the tech in house the way Sony did and really dont know the capability of what they have. By the time they figure it out it could be too late. They really do seem to be aimed squarely at the Casual market right now since it would cost less to make shovelware that anyone can hype as the next best thing as opposed to spending some real time and money developing something that will push the hardware.

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Tinasumsum5614d ago

Thanks saves me some time you defeated your own purpose.

imTatsu5614d ago

I found it funny they had a black guy demo it. They're saying "see no more racism!"

But anyways, it looks really cool so far. Hopefully it'll function the same in different environments, wonder how close the camera has to be to your face.

RIP_Weazel5613d ago

Hmmm. It doesn't seem to want to track any shoulder or core movement past 5 secs.
Manipulated Bullshots?

FragMnTagM5613d ago

There was never a problem with black people detection. I got it on launch and the next day, one of my family members, who is black, used it with no problems in a dimly lit room.

I have even had on black pants with black long sleeve shirt and it works with no problems.

Sensationalist media was/is the only problem.

nopunctuation5614d ago (Edited 5614d ago )

is this the matrix

Kon5613d ago

Not in N4G, not here.

imTatsu5613d ago

It's okay, i'll give you a thumbs up! =D

Obama5613d ago

yes it's the matrix minus the cool and graphic factor.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1585d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1584d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161584d ago (Edited 1584d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691584d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1584d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791584d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1584d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1584d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1584d ago (Edited 1584d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1584d ago (Edited 1584d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1584d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1583d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1583d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1582d ago (Edited 1582d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1584d ago (Edited 1584d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1583d ago (Edited 1583d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101584d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1584d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101584d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1584d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101584d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721584d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1584d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1584d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1584d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1584d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721761d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1761d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901761d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1761d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1761d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131761d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1761d ago (Edited 1761d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1761d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1761d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1761d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771761d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1761d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901761d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1760d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901760d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1760d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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