absolutely refuse to go back to pc gaming;
I was there for 10 years
I had enough
f dat
sorry
no

i may have spent several grands on pc rig purchasing and maintenance alone ... and when you're into pc gaming, you are pirating games (period); i don't know one pc gamer that hasn't "obtained" a game for free (steam or no steam)

@Deadwing

Games can be pirated on any Console too. I personally buy all my games on Steam. After the recent holidays i have nearly 100 games on Steam. Having the same games on Console will cost alot more then the hardware price differences between Console and PC.

Console gaming being cheaper is a myth. PC hardware doesnt need upgrades, even if you are having 3-4 yr old hardware because most games i made with Consoles as the lowest denominator in mind and yea all of us know how old console hardware is.

Games were meant to be played with a controller.

Certain games, yes.

FPS Games, RTS games, point and click adventure games, ect, no.

Trying to play FPS, RTS or MMOs with a controller is like trying to write with boxing gloves on. Mouse + KB all the way.

@people having trouble playing FPS games with a controller

Do you guys have hand-eye coordination issues? It's not that hard.

As for games being less expensive on Steam- Yeah, that's cool. I bought Amnesia: The Dark Descent for like $20 on Steam not too long ago. But I still prefer to have a hard copy version of every game I own.

Mayhaps I'm just not "down with it." Mayhaps I'm just not trendy enough to realize the joys of digital download. Who knows...

I'll take the physical copy over the digital copy any day.

.... im good

@Venomproject

I bought the following gmaes of Steam on discount:

Metro 2033 5usd
Mafia 2 12usd
witcher 5usd
Amnesia 9usd
Dead space 9usd
Lara croft 3.6usd
Darsiders 9usd

And some others. Go on tell me how much would those have cost me on console? I can tell ya it would have been alot more thats for sure.

@deafwing

You just accused a lot of people of doing something I'm very much against, pirating video games. I have 140 games on Steam alone, and I don't need to steal anything when games are already cheapest on PC.

I just bought Bad Company 2 for $6.80 and Aliens v. Predator for $5. All of Valve's games in the Valve Complete Pack were on sale for $24.99. I do not steal anything and take offense to that accusation.

@reynod

Seriously, i have steam and it is way cheaper for me to buy new release through gamefly plain and simple. Steam is great for people that want to buy old games.

@Bloodynapkin

Most people today dont have the money to be buying all games at release. Specially theres a ton of games getting released every month, its easy to miss alot of them specially when on console they all sell for 60usd and prices for console versions take a long time to come down.

Steam has some major sale going every 3-4 months, not to mention the game of the week deals or the weekend deals. I have bought so many games last year just 2-3months after release prices like 10-15usd. An example being:

Bioshock 2 for 14usd 2months after launch
Metro 2033 23usd about 2 months after launch.

Impossible to get those prices anywhere else asides D2D maybe. I personally no longer buy games at launch, unless its a must have game like:

Witcher 2 or portal 2 this year, anything else i buy will be on discounts.

@reynod

Thats nice i pay 20 to 30 bucks for brand new launch titles, for my PS3. And if the game isnt worth a crap i dont spend any money and send it back and get a different game. Except for the minor fee i pay.

if you want to spend the time and money on it.

1 PS3 does the work for me, the rest of the money goes to games, games, games and... games !

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lol i still cant get over this
how pc gamers are trying to convert console gamers
Then turn aound and disagree with them because of their personal preferences

if being a pc gamer put me in that mind set i would rather stay a console gamer

this is just crazy
i would never tell a pc gamer he or she should convert to console and then argue with them because of their opinion

am i the only one who see this childish s#it lol

@ vickers

ROFL dude. You don't know the basic layout of a keyboard? What are you typing on right now? If anything a keyboard is more streamlined than a controller. For FPS, the main buttons fit to your hand. And guess what if they don't, the game has this thing called options. I know it's very hard for a console gamer to fathom, but PC games gives you options on your control preference.

Why would programmers want to waste resources coding their game to fit a controller? That's where the user comes in. PC games don't all fit on a controller. The controller only has so many actions. On PC, you can literally have 101 actions (101 being the typical amount of keys on a regular keyboard) each mapped to a different key. Of course few games actually make use of every single key, so that gives you the option to place actions where you want them on the keyboard. If you have abnormally long fingers, good luck changing the size of the controller. On PC, you can map functions to suit your hands and finger reach.

I find it kind of pathetic that you can't live without a little rumble in your controller.. that is such a petty thing to complain about. How about responsiveness? I'd take that over a controller and that is exactly the advantage keyboard has. Responsiveness, especially in mechanical keyboards, is super quick. Little to no input lag at all depending on what keyboard. And that brings it back to the other point, customization and preference. I'd take controls suited to my hand rather than a little rumble every time something blows up :P

PC has great exclusives, dunno what you're smoking. Much higher quality games that require a little bit more thinking than the usual console game. It's just a fact that most PC gamers are older and can afford to sustain multiple systems. I myself own 3 gaming platforms and PC is my preference due to the sheer amount of options at my fingertips. It truly is the platform that does everything.

@ Toaster That is bullshit. Quality of games is defined by the quality of the developers and if you say that console developers like: ND, Myamoto, Kojima, Team Ico (just to name a few because there are plenty more) arent some of the most talented developers in the industry then i got to say that imo you dont have good taste in games.

"You don't know the basic layout of a keyboard? What are you typing on right now? If anything a keyboard is more streamlined than a controller. For FPS, the main buttons fit to your hand."

Yeah, I do know the basic layout of a keyboard, it's just not that easy to place your 3 fingers on WASD without looking. And more streamlined my a$$. All that's required for me to actually move with a controller is ONE THUMB. Not having 3 fingers assigned to one very simple action frees up quite a bit of space and concentration so you can actually focus on aiming/crouching/taking cover, etc.

"And guess what if they don't, the game has this thing called options. I know it's very hard for a console gamer to fathom, but PC games gives you options on your control preference."

The keyboard feels like sh*t no matter how you map out the buttons.

"Why would programmers want to waste resources coding their game to fit a controller?"

This may be hard for you to fathom, but not everybody shares the same preferences that you do. Shocking, I know, but it's the truth.

"PC games don't all fit on a controller."

Almost everything except MMOs, RTS games, and a few other games do.

"I find it kind of pathetic that you can't live without a little rumble in your controller.. that is such a petty thing to complain about."

Sorry, I actually like to feel like I'm shooting a gun when I'm playing a game, it provides a level of immersion for me that my PC has yet to even come close to (PC feels more like I'm running an application, not a game).

"How about responsiveness?"

I don't know how it works for you, but the games I play with the controller are pretty damned responsive. Since mice are so responsive and so accurate, it makes things way too easy and not challenging or realistic in the slightest. It's boring as hell, just mouse over enemies head and click a button, WOOOOOO, I'm so talented /s. Not to mention, you have to sit in a single position when PC gaming, you can't really shuffle around in your seat to make yourself more comfortable like you can effortlessly do with a controller.

"PC has great exclusives, dunno what you're smoking."

It doesn't have the exclusives I prefer. No ratchet and clank, uncharted, sly cooper, metal gear solid, killzone, resistance, warhawk, littlebigplanet, infamous, bad company 1, BF1943, Red Dead Redemption (at least not yet), valkyria chronicles, 3d dot game heroes, saints row 1 or 2, god of war, team ico games, etc.

You could probably list a bunch of exclusives of "higher quality" than the ones I listed, but it really wouldn't matter, because a game (for me at least) is always going to be hindered when using KB/M controls, and there's nothing I can do about that, it's a preference I can't change no matter how hard I try, and I know a LOT of people like me, so I'm not the minority.

"It's just a fact that most PC gamers are older and can afford to sustain multiple systems. I myself own 3 gaming platforms and PC is my preference due to the sheer amount of options at my fingertips."

I own a PS3, a 360, and a gaming PC, yet I prefer to do my gaming on consoles. Obviously PC has more options, but none of those options (for me) make up for the uncomfortable controls PC has.

I've tried to enjoy PC gaming, I really have (I spent 980 bucks building a gaming pc and two weeks of my time replacing the defective parts they sent me), but I have so far only had fun with World of Warcraft and Half Life 2.