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Kinect Sales Spur Microsoft’s Game Plan

Five years after the release of Microsoft’s Xbox 360, the video-game console is getting a second wind, not just from the Kinect, but from the migration of consumers seeking a high-definition game experience away from Nintendo’s Wii game console, which is built only for standard-definition televisions.

Microsoft’s system is maintaining a commanding lead over its high-def competitor, Sony’s PlayStation 3, however, especially following the nine-week holiday sales period. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer recently revealed at the Consumer Electronics Show that the Xbox 360′s lifetime sales surpassed 50 million following this past Christmas season.

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cstyle5607d ago

Ms is on a roll...I hope the 360 just keeps on selling... Go USA.

Fallouts5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

usa is my WORLD..

go JAPAN?

Rush5607d ago

I don't know why everyone acts like the 360 is doing poorly in the rest of the world it's only not selling in Japan.

In the worlds biggest gaming market the US it's selling extremely well it's also selling extremely well in the worlds 3rd biggest gaming market the UK.

And it's entire Europe sales ain't really far behind the PS3.

MintBerryCrunch5607d ago

people have a problem with the WORLD?

say what?

people need some mint berries in their lives, with a hint of crunch

VenomProject5607d ago

Go USA?

LOL...That comment made me want to eat a hot dog and have a coke, whilst singing the national anthem.

SMOK3xFFx5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

woah woah woah, hold up here, Canada is part of N/A too. Go Canada!

Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee...

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darthv725607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

"Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer recently revealed at the Consumer Electronics Show that the Xbox 360′s lifetime sales surpassed 50 million following this past Christmas season."

Can that be right?

cstyle5607d ago

of course its right... 360 is selling like crazy here in the U.S.

ct035607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

Yes, it can. US sales for December are likely between 2.2 and 2.5 million units.

Nexy5607d ago

Congratulations. 360 is doing very well.

Too bad it's becasue of this gimmick Kinect thing for casuals right now and not because of real HC games.

Bigpappy5607d ago

Sony tried the same plan Kiddo. It just isn't working out as well. It the Move was doing the same or better for Sony you would be singing it praise and wellcoming you casual friends. What really kills me, is that you guys make fun of casual games, then when Little Big Planet shows a few screen shots of the sponge doll with the big eye, the excitement goes through the roof.

thenickel5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

Is LBP a casual game? Surely the level
design is hardcore but what about the gameplay?

edit: Not sure why I got a disagree but oh well I guess. If LBP is casual then that's one big double standard on this site.

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Bigpappy5607d ago

all the reasons you guys are giving for LBP to be a core experience can be applied to Kinect sports and Adventure. Try becoming chapion in any of those Kinect Sports games, except for bowling, then tell me if you think it was easy. I know that is a stupid chalenge, because none of you own the game or will ever play it.

DigitalRaptor5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

"A casual game is a video game or online game targeted at or used by a mass audience of casual gamers. Casual games can have any type of gameplay, and fit in any genre. They are typically distinguished by their simple rules and lack of commitment required in contrast to more complex hardcore games. They require no long-term time commitment or special skills to play, and there are comparatively low production and distribution costs for the producer."

LittleBigPlanet is not a casual game. It has a large emphasis on user created content, which a casual gamer would not want to spend much time doing. Not to mention the difficulty levels on LBP varies depending on how the user has created the level. So it could be really simple, or very, very complex and frustrating.

No Kinect game I have seen has gone past the boundary of the simple and casual, as defined by the above. The only 'kiddy' or 'casual' part of LBP is the design and its appeal.

GodofSackboy5607d ago

You lost all credibility when you slagged on LBP. It is by far the best game I have ever played. I played it for 2 years solid then for the the last 4 months have been playing the LBP2 beta constantly. Do you ever wonder why it gets such great reviews? Because it is absolutely brilliant. I advise you to buy it, or you will be missing out on so much.

GodofSackboy5607d ago

And anyway I spent sometimes months crafting a masterpiece in LBP, and with casual games it's just pick up and play. For LBP you need to be able to visualise things extremely well, see how things will happen, work out different ways of using logic to do things...you only get good after about 6 months of practice really

jetlian5607d ago

you hit it on the head. Most 30 or so men are not looking to buy LBP. It is a casual game same with sly cooper, modnation racers,rachet and clank.

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QuodEratDemonstrandm5607d ago

Full Disclosure: I own a PS3, NOT a 360.

I think the fact that most 2011 releases are for Kinect could be part of MS's plan. They want to get as many games as possible for Kinect out as quickly as possible, so people will want to buy that particular peripheral.

I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect some Core games in late 2011 in to 2012, when the new wears off the Kinect.

I could be wrong... Microsoft could be saying "Let's ignore Sony and start competing with Nintendo." It that case, you can expect lots of support for Kinect and Core gamers will be deprioritized.

Won't make any difference to me either way. As I pointed out earlier, I don't even own a 360, but I try to be fair.

DigitalRaptor5606d ago (Edited 5606d ago )

Nail on the head!

However you look at it, they are starving their core consumers of exclusives, so that they might be more inclined to buy Kinect. Whether this a choice of theirs, or the fact that they don't have enough first party studios to bring out consistent original content, I'm not too sure, but when the majority of their upcoming exclusives are for Kinect-only, you have to wonder...

It's a similar situation to that of the original Xbox. They cut off support for that machine and basically said "if you want more exclusive experiences from us, you gotta buy a 360."

This time it's "if you want more exclusive experiences on Xbox 360, you gotta buy Kinect". Although what they have said is "2011 is all about Kinect"... and that speaks for itself!

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Parapraxis5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

Wait.... MS has a game plan?
Coulda fooled me, ohhh wait Kinect games plan, that makes more sense.

I guess Gears 3 really is all I have to look forward to on 360 =/

Rush5607d ago

Let's be honestly here if the 360 had 1000x the amount of exclusives the PS3 has in 2011 you wouldn't play any of them anyway.

So let's not pretend you care the 360 gamers experience your just here to troll like a good little retard.

I never understand it honestly you think doing this gives PS3 gamers a good name because all my friends own PS3's but they can't stand the retarded playstation fanboys.

MintBerryCrunch5607d ago

calm down, you need some mint berries in your life, with a hint of crunch

Boody-Bandit5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

Okay Rush let's be even more honest here, shall we?
Is what Parapraxis saying not true? Other than Gears of War 3, Forza 4 and of course multiplats, where is MS headed? Kinect / shovelware.

All I hear anymore from MS is Kinect, it's sales and what they plan on doing in the future with Kinect. Forza 4 will have Kinect implemented which makes a diehard Forza fan such as myself cringe. Now I am hearing rumblings that Gears will have Kinect implementation as well.

So not only does MS have very little too offer core gamers as far as exclusives, but they appear to have their few exclusive titles implementing Kinect. I don't want Forza 4 to have Kinect features. I want Turn 10 to focus all their efforts on taking this series even further and implementing better wheel features, not Kinect.

Oh and I am a 360 gamer. A hardcore mainstream 360 gamer, so is my opinion allowed?

poopface15607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

Soooo, implementing kinect into games is horrible to you, but I bet sony adding move to alot of there games is just supporting "hardcore motion games" right??

And your gamer tag does not exist soooo, im sure your telling the truth.

DigitalRaptor5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

If it wasn't obvious enough, the real reason PS3 guys are ripping the hell out of 360 guys right now, is because we all know that Sony is schooling Microsoft in exclusives, which is the exact same thing they have done to PS3 owners since 2005, even when the PS3 had some great exclusives. "The PS3 has no games", "The PS3 is doomed"... if you remember?

All this "360 has no exclusives" business is a big F*ck-u and and I told you so statement!

Honestly, it serves them damn right!

Imalwaysright5607d ago

Wow poopface. Seriously are you comparing Sony's focus on this motion crapolla with MS? Do i need to make a list of exclusives for 2011 for the PS3 and the 360?

Are you seriously comparing Move that actually can be used to play hardcore games with kinect?

Literally having poo in your face would be less embarrassing than your comment.

jetlian5607d ago (Edited 5607d ago )

thats how they roll. socom,kz, etc with move ok but kinect with forza,gears not ok.

brutal does have a GT make it one word has 43K gamerscore.A lot of old sports game pad that though. Better than the last guy who didn't finish like 99% of the games

Parapraxis5607d ago

AddNauseam is my XBL, feel free to add me...so I can then promptly decline your invite Rush.

Boody-Bandit5606d ago (Edited 5606d ago )

My gamertag doesn't exist, huh?

XBL BoodyBandit GS = 43272
Can't direct link it from live.xbox.com but you can go to this link any type in my GT. But you would have to have an XBL account which you probably don't multiple account no life troll
http://live.xbox.com/en-US/...

PSN account
http://us.playstation.com/p...

You were saying?
poopface is a good name for you since all you do is talk shit.

What's your gamertag big mouth?

Boody-Bandit5606d ago (Edited 5606d ago )

Oh here yah go.
http://card.mygamercard.net...

@jetlian
Sports games? Most of my GS comes from racers and shooters. It's not my fault the first year of the 360 life cycle there were only 5 to 10 achievements per title.

What the gamerscore doesn't show you is how many hours I log into individual titles. If all I did was hunt achievements, for the hours I have vested into the 360? My GS would be well over 100k but that's not how I roll.

Add me to your friends list and you will see I spend weeks and sometimes month on only one title.

If you were to some how tally every member of N4G's XBL account usage. Mine would probably be in the top 1 to 3% of hours played per month.

My sons gamerscore is a little over 40k and he barely plays his 360 compared to me. Gamerscore doesn't mean jack squat.

poopface15606d ago

I really did look for it but now I see it has no spaces.

Im sure you had your 360 before your ps3 as I can tell youve played the 360 way more.

I still dont understand why optional kinnect controls are a big problem. you dont have to use them if you dont want.

I will not get kinnect or move, but optional controls for either don't matter to me. Ill still play LBP2 and Gears 3 with controllers like 95% of the people out there.

We cant pretend like MS will have less core support because they are now working on kinnect as well. Why? because we all know that MS barley had many first party games ever, even before kinnect.

jetlian5606d ago

you only have 90 games listed and you don't have enough to pass 100k and the old sports game do pad your score

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1575d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1575d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161575d ago (Edited 1575d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691574d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1574d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791574d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1574d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1575d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1575d ago (Edited 1575d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1574d ago (Edited 1574d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1574d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1574d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1574d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1573d ago (Edited 1573d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1574d ago (Edited 1574d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1574d ago (Edited 1574d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101575d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1574d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101574d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1574d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101574d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721574d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1574d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1574d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1574d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1574d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721751d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1751d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901751d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1751d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1751d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131751d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1751d ago (Edited 1751d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1751d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1751d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1751d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771751d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1751d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901751d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1751d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901751d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1750d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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