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PS3 Hacked: Pros and Cons

The PS3 has been hacked, and it looks like this time is for good. Only time can tell how this hacks will change the industry, but we want to analyze what would happen if indeed this hack is the final blow on the PS3's few remaining lines of defense against piracy.

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MintBerryCrunch5610d ago

"Finally, the capability to run pirated software. Sure, fail0verflow can claim all they want that the intention of hacking the PS3 was solely to allow homebrew software and that they do not condone piracy, but we all know that the real purpose of their work is to allow pirated games to run as legitimate software on the PS3. From a user's point of view, this would be ideal. Get your game for free by downloading it on your favorite bit torrent website and play it with the same functionality of a legit paid copy."

this is a Pro? they make it sound like all PS3 users have no ethics that they look to when it comes to buying legit and avoiding pirating the system and its games

fail0verflow5610d ago (Edited 5610d ago )

As I read forums, there is a danger that Sony won't be able to ban consoles.

-PS3 won't die
-games will still sell
...
- cheaters in Uncharted 3 multiplayer. confirmed.

Sony will probably redesign, tweak the hardware a bit in new Slims

I'm fail0verflow and we're doing it for FR33 GAMEZ, but shhhh don't tell nobody

ActionBastard5610d ago

I wonder if there has been any thought to the fact the the hardware CAN be flashed. The idea that this would render all current games useless is bullshit.

ThanatosDMC5610d ago

MAG cheaters... i dont want to see that happen. There's all ready too many noobs that hate killers like me. They might be able to get that speed glitch back from the 2.0 beta in which players were faster than the cars. Knife speeders... i hate those since i suck at close quarters combat.

MisterAV5610d ago

Sony probably can:
-change all the upgradable keys and correct the epic bug
-change the keys for psn content, and whitelist old games
-make new firmware
-reopen OtherOS so some hackers maybe stop
-make a better hypervisor
-change something in new console hardware

Probably the old consoles will stay vulnerable to modchip but at least it would not be so easy.

rob60215610d ago

Sony probably can:
-detect and ban users with custom firmware from PSN.
-launch firmware updates more frequently required to play all the newest games.

RageAgainstTheMShine5610d ago

Cons:

Pirates will have a field day and rejoice!

The PS2 history will repeat itself.

Say hi to 120 million units : )

rockleex5609d ago

The main problem with this is that people can now create viruses, trojans, etc and put them on websites or send them through messages to even non-hacked PS3s.

The ability to sign their own codes is a HUGE threat to security.

All your credit card info and everything could be stolen.

Hopefully the design of the PS3 prevents that from happening.

hakis865609d ago

@rob6021:

How about firmware updates that won't let you use your PS3 for anything unless you have the newest firmware.
At startup it could promt you to "update you PS3", and if you decline the screen stays black/it powers off.
Extreme measure but it wouldn't be a problem for me, since I won't be using hacked sh*t.

I see a lot of security risks for us users as well: if we use a hacked firmware, how can we know that someone is NOT stealing information about us? My PS3 is linked to my facebook, my VISA card, etc.. a lot of sensitive information :-/

zeeshan5609d ago

Anybody who thinks SONY or PS3 will suffer is an idiot! If anything PS3 sales are going to skyrocket as soon as there is a working, risk free CFW out there. Even the toughest of pirates end up buying games and besides WII and 360 have been hacked for a long time!! They are still minting money! It changes NOTHING and if it does, it won't be a disaster rather it'll spike the PS3 sales to at least double of it's current rate.

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saladthieves5610d ago

These pirates just wanted to study the inners of the PS3. However this will inevitably lead others to piracy. Think of it as an unwanted side effect.

badz1495610d ago

wanted to study the inner of the PS3? yeah, right? that's why they exposed every key, every hole they found to the public? they knew piracy will happen and their findings will play a major roll in it but they still release it, right? side effect? NO! although indirectly, this is clearly INTENTIONAL!

MintBerryCrunch5610d ago

lol people are disagreeing with what they stated, not me...read the article...it makes no sense that piracy is a pro

Dsnyder5609d ago

Here we go again. Thought ps3 was hacked already but sony but the banhammer on that shit. Just face it. PS3 cant be hacked.

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NovusTerminus5610d ago

We can steal our games and get them for free! >.>

I'm sorry that is just wrong. Most of the games I play don't even sell 500k units. Such as Resonance and BlazBlue. games like this could die off if people start stealing everything. And face it. That's why everyone wanted to hack the console.

I'd rather pay for the game a support roughly 80 people's JOBS! Hackers need to get a life. cause they are just risking others.

CrescentFang5610d ago

I have to agree with you. I can't believe Falcom chose the PSP as their main platform and I thought that lower the chances of a NA releases for their games (We really gotta thank XSEED). I hope Atlus, NIS America, XSEED and all the other small publishers don't get shut down because of people not buying but stealing their games :(
(Is it possible for the big companies to go out of business because of piracy?)

NovusTerminus5610d ago

It is possible, but not likely. Since they have more investor's and a bigger name and are a trusted source that has proven themselves.

Small companies on the other hand do not have any of those things, and in such could realistically have to close their doors due to piracy.

blahblah5609d ago

not me...

the only interest i have with this hack is using my old ps3 which has backward compatibility for 60 or so ps2 games i have (all bought, none pirated). bluray died and service cost which was reported back to me is insane, if i add 20eur i can buy slim. i'd play them with my original ps2, but that one produces strange artifacts on my sony bravia lcd (picture is so annoyingly grainy it is not true).

as far as my ps3 gaming goes, i own 2 more ps3 and around 110-120 ps3 games (again none pirated).

i'd never pirate one single piece of software since i'm living by writing code my self. i never did on pc and ps2, so why doing that on ps3?

the second thing i'd use my broken ps3 is to have decent multimedia player/transcoder/center 90% of the time and playing ps2 games 10%.

as far as i was enthusiastic about using OtherOS (i could simply not upgrade), sony crippled hypervisor so badly it made it unusable. now with this hack, my dream of having mkv/ogg ready player might come true.

but yes... i'd do the the same logic i apply to music. i listen to downloaded ones and if they are good i buy them and rip into ogg. now with games this would probably make 1 less sale to games like Prototype, which i bought, got to around 4-5% and never put it back. crap like that simply doesn't deserve money. meaning i'd probably download full demo and then decide if i'm buying or not. i already did that few times when possible. friend loaned me Mirrors edge, i finished it and still bought my own copy

yes, i guess i'm a scum for being happy that ps3 got hacked.

srmiller5609d ago

I can see some advantages to the PS3 being hacked for people who pay for their games.
What I'd like to do is install a fast SSD in my PS3 and copy my legit games to it to reduce load times, mainly on GT5, just imagine the time we'd saved for more races!
Personally I don't think people will be downloading many 8GB+ PS3 games as some people have a capped internet allowance i.e. 10GBpm, and unless you have a good fibre optic line then it'd be quicker to go to the shop's and buy the game!

Darth_Bane795609d ago

So you think that getting all those things, that you can do on your computer already, are worth all the people that are gonna lose their jobs because of piracy destroying the industry?

THC CELL5610d ago

Sony will get out of this trust me. they have it backed up.

Ps3fanbaby5610d ago

oh yeah sony will make those hacker pay trust me.

rlm415610d ago

Just like they made the PSP hackers pay? :S

That poor thing is riddled with piracy.

hiredhelp5610d ago

as ive stated in a earlyer article. this not damaging to sony. as it will boost consoles.

the devs may complain thoe. so my argument to them is
WTF MAKE FOR THE Wii, 360 PSP,DS THEN.
tell you why cos money always about the money.

DirtyLary5610d ago

But what about the devs? Everyone already owns a console. Lame excuse.

ChristianGamer5610d ago

PRO: NOW it really does everything

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Report: Sony Is Turning Its Back on Porting PlayStation Games to PC

Sony is said to be pulling back on releasing PlayStation games on PC, and this starts with Ghost of Yotei and Saros.

Elda72d ago

If true then the PC elitists will no longer be saying..."I'll wait to play it on PC where it'll play best" I'm guessing the money Sony spends porting & profiting from PC isn't worth it. Making PS first party solely exclusive again to their consoles will make their consoles more relevant to buy especially if their output of first party titles are good.

Outside_ofthe_Box72d ago

A certain spamtastic account will not be pleased if this is true.

This is another basic logic scenario. We've seen both extremes playing out right now. Would you rather be in Xbox's or Nintendo's position right now? Sony already had a working formula, stick to it.

fr0sty72d ago

Sony released games on PC to try to make a few extra bucks... Valve (and possibly MS, if the new Xbox ever sees the light of day) attempted to use this to allow you to play PlayStation games on other consoles, so instead of making Sony a few extra bucks, it's now costing them good money... so this only makes sense.

CrashMania72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

All those players who claim they were happy to wait an eternity for every game, will now suddenly be saying all those games are/will be crap and they were never interested.

Elda72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

Of course they will...lol. It looks like they'll never get to play PS exclusive games or they'll give in & buy a PS.

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CrashMania72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

Sure, keep coping obscure, suddenly Jason Schrier is super unreliable too I guess? lmao.

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Dexterio72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

True. Haha.
Oh! And look, the obscure dude with his zillionth sock account commented below as expected LMAO!

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babadivad72d ago

Believe it or not, some people will just never play Playstation games if the don't come to PC. They're completely fine with that.

InUrFoxHole71d ago

Sounds like you're letting a small section of gamers fuel your fanboy war. Good luck with that 👏

-Foxtrot71d ago

They are already doing this on some of the subreddits. Now they either never cared for their games or calling Sony selfish. However no one bats an eyelid at Nintendo sticking to console exclusive since forever

Neonridr71d ago

much like every MS released game when they eventually come to PS5 and somehow are magically good (Forza Horizon 5, Indiana Jones, Avowed, etc)

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Inverno72d ago

More like people were realizing what wasn't worth it was buying a PS5 to play games that eventually came to another platform. The constant excuses the entire gen to try to lessen the butt hurt y'all were feeling. Let's be for real here ladies and gents y'all were bothered by the fact most of these games were making their way to PC and judging by the replies y'all STILL butthurt. Trying to make it sound like waiting 6 months to a year was the worst thing when most people don't care cause why should they? Who's in a rush to play mostly SP games when they know they can play it on the platform they prefer? How exactly does it hurt y'all personally? Besides getting your pride hurt cause SONY making you look childish for being so loyal to a brand?

If they're pulling support it's because they know that long term they can't convince people to buy a PS if they can get their games on PC. It's that simple. You really think having an extra platform to gain more profit from somehow hurts them financially? Nah, it's cause they can't convince people to throw another 600-700 bucks at new hardware when their current console gen has barely been taken full advantage of. All the conveniences of a console are on PC now, and you aren't locked into a cycle where the hardware you buy becomes obsolete every 6 years. And the new hardware you buy receives games that are built off software made for the gen before.

Of course people rather buy these games on PC if they already own a PC, makes no sense at all to invest in a console if this continues. And it will infact continue if dev cycles keep taking most of the gen to complete development.

Dexterio72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

@Inverno
"All the conveniences of a console are on PC now."
Including piracy, hackers and cheaters? hmmm...

"Of course people rather buy these games on PC"
Yeah, digital only lol. People buy physicals on consoles, which you rarely have on PC.

You PC guys are really something. Being snobs for no reason at all lol.

derek72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

@Inverno, that was long tearful rant, you feel better now? Lol. Nobody cares about the pc gaming community the orphans of the gaming industry. Even Nvidia has abandoned you, lol. Now go play "pizza making express" on your $10,000 rig, nobody cares pc gamer.

Elda71d ago

It's working for PS seeing their console has been selling fabulously lately. If this is" true" it's evident Sony has decided porting their games to PC is just not worth it.

ravens5271d ago

🤣. Just get a PS if you dont have one. 🤣

Neonridr71d ago

I agree, I have a gaming PC along with a Pro and a Switch 2. I like choosing where I want to play my games. No I won't cry if I HAVE to play a title on my PlayStation. But it's nice having the option to play on my PC if I should choose.

That doesn't make me elitist or a fool in any way. My backlog of games is a country mile long. So if I can't get to a game at launch, getting it at PC down the road for a discount would be a nice option from time to time.

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Aloymetal71d ago

I'm super glad Sony's going back to what they used to do for 30 yrs, porting games to pee zee was a huge mistake just for a couple of millions extra at most and it only tarnished the brand/platform. Bunch of ungrateful ''pee zee elitists'' anyway, always demanding and whining as if Sony is owes them a port. You want a Big Mac? then go to McDonalds and get one, don't expect Taco Bell to sell you one. Common sense, that's how everything works in this world.

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CrashMania71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

@obscure

I must have missed the part where Sony owned Kojima Productions and the Death Stranding IP, news flash, they don't, which is not what the article is about lol

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Jin_Sakai71d ago

Music to my ears. So glad Sony are getting back to their roots with PlayStation. Scaling back on live service garbage and bringing back exclusives that made PlayStation what it is today.

1Victor71d ago

If anyone want to blame someone blame steam for stepping into the console market thinking Sony would continue to make their games available on PC like Xbox have done on all platforms.
Damn I missed today spam cooking competition 🤤

1Victor71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

@ stakdeck: “ @Muffer Awwww. You really made an account just to say all of this”
nope he made 2 just to disagree with me 🤣

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TwistedXenos71d ago

This feels like a bad move by Sony. The economy isn’t strong enough for most people to justify owning both a PC and a PlayStation. I’ve gotten used to playing on PC with a controller anyway. It’s a bit disappointing, but I’m not going back to consoles unless the economy improves significantly.

Michiel198971d ago

I'll wait to play it on PC where it'll play best, just a bit later on an emulator with higher res textures higher fps better controls and for free

z2g71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

It’s bc they don’t sell well. The cost to port vs revenue generated isn’t worth it. This kinda just shows that it’s specifically PlayStation people that love PlayStation exclusives - not necessarily gamers as a whole. That makes sense. Buy into what brands you like. PC has a whole universe of games that aren’t on console. Much bigger market. It doesn’t necessarily mean those interests are interchangeable.

Outside_ofthe_Box71d ago

Your logical fallacy is baffling.

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franwex72d ago

I have a ps5 and play those games on it. But why are you thanking god? What relief does this give you for people getting an old game a year or so later?

RauLeCreuset72d ago

"What relief does this give you for people getting an old game a year or so later?"

There's legitimate reason to find relief in the idea that PS is refocusing on its ecosystem and not jeopardizing it by doubling down on a strategy that could put it in a similar position as the current state of Xbox.

If true, it also relieves us of another "Sony too" deflection people have been arguing as a form of cope for years after years of people arguing that Xbox would surpass PS and Nintendo because those two weren't emulating the strategy of the only one of the big three that has never won a single console generation.

That's the cycle. Xbox has reinvented the wheel and done something the soon to be obsolete PS can't replicate, until it blows up in their faces. Then, it's "Sony too."

SimpleDad71d ago

Because that stupid decision kills consoles.
Everything is an Xbox, and now nothing is an Xbox.

People downloading torrents to play spiderman on their steam deck, and we all knew it.

I'm definitely not buying a Steam Machine for $2k over in scalper land just to play a settings game every time I turn it on.

HellspawnPR198171d ago

@SimpleDad not if done correctly. It killed Xbox because putting games day 1 on GamePass is cannibilizing their sales.

Amplitude71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Thank God people that have gaming PCs now get to play infinitely inferior versions of two good games per year exclusive to the hyper locked down non-upgradable overpriced subscription-addicted Sony gaming PC.
Still got my PS5, but only for AstroBot, Wolverine, and whatever the next Ratchet game is gonna be. This console cycle has been absolute garbage. Forcing consumers to buy a piece of tech this lame in 2026 after they've shut down all their good studios is brutal. RIP Bluepoint.

maelstromb71d ago

Agreed. This has been an absolute lame-duck Sony console generation. Very few worthwhile titles for overpriced hardware. I'll continue to enjoy the plethora of endless game titles available through Steam and other platforms while Sony-only fans remain stuck in their ecosystem waiting for the next big title to drop once every 2 years. Have fun with that.

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Edit: Double posted. Deleted double.

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dveio72d ago

Well, we have the data in front of us, don't we. Not to mention how extensive Sony's data's got to be.

They've tried.

Huge revenue wasn't generated (don't get me wrong - they did make billions, but you get it), Steam got a cut, Xbox got a cut, PS5 is trailing ~2 million units behind PS4.

The paycheck for, but also potential harm to the remaining years of PS5 and the release of PS6, just wasn't it.

It's absolutely logical if true.

And people shouldn't forget Sony'd simply return to the strategy they've been following for 4/5 of Playstation's history.

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wesnytsfs71d ago

Good luck with that, Sony wa losing money on their AAA exclusives since their ecosystem was not generating enough to revenue to cover their costs. Just another stupid move almsot as dumb as their live service push.

dveio71d ago

You think Sony made losses with God of War, The Last of Us, Ghost of, Horizon or Spiderman?

Huh.

wesnytsfs71d ago

@dveio, I hope those games made money they were good games. Horizon Forbidden West cost $212 million, while The Last of Us Part II cost $220 million, excluding marketing. Much rather see more platforms instead of them raising prices to cover the game since its lmited to one specific console.

Reaper22_72d ago

I call BS. Too much money to lose.

MDTunkown72d ago

Goal of exclusives is to sell the console and not the game

Reaper22_72d ago

Lol.. that makes no sense. That logic puts all publishers and developers out of business. The majority of people buy games on the system they prefer. Exclusives are only a tiny fraction of games sold. Selling 15 million games beats selling 2 million consoles.Consoles stagnate but games dont. How is sony trying to sell their console by putting God of War on PC? The overall goal is to make money and the games keep the money coming. The majority of the time consoles are sold for a loss. And If it is making money its not that much. Especially in the first few years after release. All the enjoyment is coming from experiencing the game.

wesnytsfs71d ago

Consoles do not make money until late in their lives games make the money.

ThePacemaker72d ago

All this BS as you say contributes just 1.5% to PlayStation’s total revenue

Reaper22_71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Actually its closer to 4%. Playstation has grossed over 1.5 billion on steam to date. So its not BS. At the end of the day, its not about what you want. They are going to do what they need to in order to increase profits. Did they ask you for permission before they shut down Bluepoint studios? No.

Felix_Argyle_Catbro71d ago

What do you expect releasing a game 2 years late??

BlaqMagiq171d ago (Edited 71d ago )

We get it. You hate PS is no longer putting their exclusives on PC while your favorite platform is giving theirs away to PC and other platforms.

Reaper22_71d ago

Thats ignorant. First of all nothing has been confirmed. I really dont care where sony put their games because I own a ps5 and a pc. So theres no hate. And for the record, I dont have a favorite platform but I do have a preference. There is a difference.

BlaqMagiq171d ago

Everything you said is BS. If you didn't care where they put their games you would've never made this comment. And you've made it clear you CLEARLY have a favorite platform. Just because you own a ps5 and pc doesn't negate that.

Reaper22_71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Can you confirm that they are no longer putting their games on PC? If you cant then your whole argument is just nonsense. I dont care where they put their games. Part of the reason is i dont like all their games. Just like it dont like all games.on other platforms. I called BS on this report because its not based on facts to back it up. Maybe you care a little too much about it which imo is a waste of time. LIke I said before its not about you want. They dont need our permission to do anything. So if they do stop putting games.on PC it wont be because that what playstation fanboys want. It will be for business reasons. Thats why I said its BS. Why would they turn down opportunities to make money. For the record, games are developed on dev kits which are basically PC anyway. They only have to gain.

Dandizzle71d ago

Look how much attention this got, Jason Schreier pulls this shit all the time. Then people just forget his embellished claims.
You send this dude one random ass email I bet he will write up a whole story on it.

Reaper22_71d ago

I dont why people are getting all upset over something of little importance.

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UK games industry to receive dedicated SIC codes for development and publishing

New classifications will "allow the government, investors, and policymakers to properly understand the industry's economic impact," says UKIE.

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Why Game Music Might Outlast the Games Themselves

Game music often lasts longer than the games themselves. Why soundtracks preserve gaming memories even after consoles and platforms fade.

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