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Kinect Giving Microsoft Image Boost it Needs?

Microsoft has went through cycles of image crises, as they're always compared to Apple or Google, and others, as far as the "cool" factor goes, even when they have come out with products like the XBox, which was grudgingly admitted by some to be outstandingly awesome.

Now they've generated another win, which while not being a major part of their bottom line, will be just as important from the marketing and branding factor as anything else they do in the short term.

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D4RkNIKON5639d ago

MS is putting all of it's 2011 eggs in the kinect basket but one... Gears 3.

GenericUserName5638d ago

Forza 4? Halo Remake? Kingdoms? You know, unlike sony, microsoft do not announce games 5 years before their released. Just look at forza 3...a mere 5 months before release it was announced. And that kinect basket is a pretty solid one. 2.5 million in 25 days? 375 million dollars and that doesn't include the software sales. Wouldn't you put your eggs in that basket? Factor in all the 3rd party kinect exclusives, 3rd party multiplatform games that play and sell better on 360, gears 3, forza 4, kingdoms, xcom, gun loco, halo remake...I'd say they are pretty covered

ingiomar5638d ago

True, MS is not likely to announce titles years before its out.

MS is surely gonna reveal some new games

Wingnut Interactive is working on a ''Filmic Game'' they cancelled Halo:Chronicles but they are working on one or more Secret Projects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Lionhead is also said to be working on Multiple secret projects

http://www.vg247.com/2009/0...

It's confirmed that these are old Lionhead concepts but who are we to say that they were not revived or combined.

Another tease:

http://www.totalvideogames....

BigPark also said to be working on a new game if i recall after they finished JoyRide.

and then we got Rare one of MS's best developers,Im not letting anyone lie to me that they are not working on a new core game.
Rare is known for their media-shy nature,Which is probably why they are not even trying to tease us.

These are only First-party.

Nobody's gonna tell me they aren't gonna announce at least 3 more exclusive core titles next year. (3 NEW IP's would be a dream come true)

Bigpappy5638d ago (Edited 5638d ago )

Kinect is a beast, no doubt about that. It is causing M$ to sell out of all sku's. Amazon just got some 4Gig Kinect bundle in, ant that sku is already back in the top 10. The games for it are selling very well too. That is the one big plus a M$ has with being huge in the US and Canada. People here spend more, especially around the holiday season. UK is another good area for them. This is the main reason the attach rate remains so high for them, and why they can rely on heavy 3rd part support.

On topic: The Kool factor of Kinect is up there with Ipad and may be stronger. Having the hackers onboard only adds to that. So yes, it is helping with their image of being more than an office company. Bill gate always wanted to get into entertainment. Xbox was successful with core gamers, Kinect will broaden that audiance substatially.

SnakeMustDie5639d ago

I hope MS has more game reveals for 2011 because Gears alone cannot save them.

TheOldOne5638d ago

I hope MS has more non-Kinect game reveals.

GenericUserName5638d ago

Save them? From what? The many ps3 exclusives? Are they going to finally kill xbox lol. GT5 failed to do so, Uncharted 2 failed to do so, Killzone failed. MGS 4 failed, Move failed, which one of the upcoming exclusives will kill xbox? Or is it a collective effort? We're assuming that unlike Socom, lbp and gt5, sony won't delay any games till 2012.
Oh and Forza 4, Kingdoms, Xcom, gun loco, first templar. . .halo remake, whatever else they have planned are more than enough to "save" them

Mystogan5638d ago

Dude... your embarrassing us by listing gun loco and first templar(which is probably console exclusive because they had no money for 2 consoles),gun loco looks lame,but yeah its exclusive :/.

IKONACLYSM5638d ago (Edited 5638d ago )

Agree but who knows maybe it'll be a diamond in the ruff

palaeomerus5638d ago

This is a blog post from someone who cannot even write well. Fail. Get an editor or something.

IKONACLYSM5638d ago

Since everyone is making lists here's what I want next year
XBLA killer instinct 1,2 HD that is all thank you for your time

Mystogan5638d ago

haha lol

The games i wanna see are

Blinx 3
Azurik 2
Conker 360
NightCaster 3
Phantom Dust 2

hmmm.. i guess that is all, All those games would be EPIC with 7th generation Graphics and Technology

tigertom535638d ago

I think Kinect did the right thing to give them the image boost for the family buyers and to expand there sales buy targeting the family..

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1581d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1581d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691581d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1581d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791580d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1580d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1581d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1580d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1580d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1580d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1579d ago (Edited 1579d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1580d ago (Edited 1580d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1580d ago (Edited 1580d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101581d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1581d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101581d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1581d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101580d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721581d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1581d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1581d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1580d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1581d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721758d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901757d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1757d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131757d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1757d ago (Edited 1757d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1757d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1757d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771757d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901757d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1757d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901757d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1757d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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