ladies and gentleman this is pure damage control at its best. IGN really messed up with their "review". now they playing the blame game. "he said she said" style. no thanks IGN. you shouldve just played the game a whole lot more instead of doing a half assed job just to be one of the first out there with a GT5 review.

So they doing the review over? LOL

im guessing since the gt5 review ign have seen traffic to the site swerve in other direction lol .

HAHA IGN trying damage control on their half assed review. I mean the review is released the day the injunction is lifted yet it takes a week plus to give a vid review, thats a first I've seen on the site. I bet they change the article to include the progressive damage.

LMAO they got caught not playing the game now they are trying to cover it up..

lol at IGN trying to justify themselves by putting blame on Sony and PD

aha the irony explained

and IGN authors seem to be lost in translation....

YES damage is "unlocked from the start", but, as you progress through the game it becomes more severe.

damage control on damage model that basically showed whether a reviewer played the full game or not

PD owned the reviewers =)

Lol, it's still not fully explained... The thing is, the higher your level, the more damage accurs. I'm now level 18, it's starting to show more and more.

SMH, I wonder how heavy that ass in hand is, being that Yamauchi just handed the review his.

Oh look its the biggest gaming site with the worst credibility when it comes to ps3 games. Wow & we learn more & more each time we read about these morons especially since the reviewer who reviewed GT5 from IGN is a huge fan of 360 & finds kinect to be amazing. Yup just the guy to review a ps3 exclusive.

One question? why is so important the Damage in a car in this game/simulator?
Today i make 18.948 on B-5 test, you need 18.900.. so i need to perfect my driving skills...
why people want crash? you need learn to cut time, and dont crash at all
I dont miss it at all, and i know ther ies Damage.. just try it on Arcade mode

The difference between your average Joe and a "professional" is not as real as some may think. Plus, it's easy to feign(fake) professionalism by adhering to certain styles of conduct/action. Among the professionals, there are many who are still considered professional, but are incompetent. Though, there are some who are really good.

Maybe people need to think twice before they trust people they perceive as professionals and ask themselves "Is this person full of $#@!?", "does this person really know wtf they are talking about, or it all pretence?" etc.

Lol@pledius' comment. They might have apologized if they thought it was in their own best interest.
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"Standard models have minor deformation and scratches," said Sony, "Premium cars have greater visible level of damage, and Premium racing models have the highest level of damage."

A question to the Sony guys on this site.
Honestly, wouldn't it have been better to just have the premium cars on GT5 and leave out the standard PS2 ports of cars that are really getting ripped to shreds all over the Internet for bad graphics and horrible damage?

IGN just needs to say sorry we messed up.

Seeing them trying to cover their ass like this just embarrassed them so much

OF COURSE damage doesn't "unlock" but it gets "better"

it just shows they're just trying to play around with the words; what are they? lawyers?

For about three or so years now. IGN's reviews have been going down hill. They have barely any length to them anymore or even any details at all. I think their reviews probably have the same amount of words that you find on a Kellogg's box. It barely amounts to anything.

I'm 12 in A-Spec and 10 in B-Spec

I have definetly seen damage. No question. My Damn 320k repair bill for my 62' special is still on the back burner. Blah.

I will note that I haven't driven a proper premium race car, so I don't know the extent of the damage yet and hopefuly i wont find out! lol.

Trytobee1...

Well some fans may have a favorite car they like or own thats in that standard lineup & that alone for car lovers shows in GT5 sales why people love this franchise. Remember this game is open to all kind of racing fans & those who loves cars. If im not mistaken polyphony always has an event where people around the world bring their swooped up ride to the event & if their the lucky winner their car will be in the next GT game. So yeah those cars do attract fans and potential buyers.

The very fact that it has to be explained proves that damage is implemented poorly. It's a baffling design choice.

Taken from a couple of posts over at gtplanet.com forums:

"Untill there is 100% confirmed proof of damage unlocking at Lvl20, I think its not the case.

I notice no more damage at Lvl21 than I did at Lvl1"

"Fake rumor (thanks to blogs and people who can't even translate a simple sentence). We tried to smash the Ford WRC and we had the same result as in the youtube video, which was recorded at level 6."

"No it hasn't. The original poster of that video (uploaded on Nov 22nd) is italian and was at level 6 when he smashed that Ford WRC. He just had to crash a lot of times. I just had the same results in arcade mode and I'm at level 17-18. I've also earned a trophy because one of the doors felt."

"I've had pieces fall off my car at low levels.

This whole thing was never more than a myth, it didn't need debunking because it was a stupid rumour in the first place. I can't believe anyone even considered giving it credit."

"It only feels like it unlocks at higher levels, racing cars have more damage than normal premiums which have more damage than standards."

Seems alot of people hinge the belief that damage "unlocks" due to that video.

IGN is getting plain stupid

i bet ign didnt even speak to sony. lol. why dont they go to the horse and ask him how damage works? didnt he says its a progression? i thought he did. i could be wrong.

IGN investigates..hey there sparky was that not the first thing you were tasked with in the first place?

"Sony has since clarified to IGN how damage works in the game. "Damage occurs to cars right from the beginning," Sony said in a statement, "it is not "unlocked."

hey who clarified it: Sony?

So IGN who was this person at Sony that confirmed it.

why don't you play the game further and see for your self I know the answer because i have not only played it, but one of my buddy's is already @ level 21 and guess what..the damage is much more severe than early levels you would know that if you played it.

the fact that the 40 level video is there and the damage was shown, as it was but what did you first claim..what was that in the first IGN review..remember what he wrote:

an I quote:

IGN:

"The inclusion of damage is so slight as to be insignificant, and even the most violent of crashes will only result in a polygon shifting slightly ajar."

lol...what level of driver was you at there sparky?

"There's an unconvincing lack of weight to the big on-track collisions, and as before in Gran Turismo games it does much to break the immersion its handling model does so well to establish."

lack of weight...? Wow ok ever dog has an opinion but some opinion's are down right silly.

IGN:

A shame, as drive into a wall hard and long enough (though you'll have to attack it with the ferocity and persistence of a dog on heat) and the damage model will slowly begin to expose itself – something it will more readily do, we hope, after a future patch.

OMG: do you even know what a driving Simulator is?

your tasked with this Simulator to be a better driver, something your trying to destroy your Car..and yes it takes multiple Hits So freaking what.

This is not NFS, FORZA 3 or Burnout ..God it's not meant to be used as a core IDEA about this Simulator, maybe you are better off playing other games.

Why are people trying to change the core basics of GT?
Not happy with FORZA, or other Games now you want to put that in GT?

can we have one Game that does not Having to mimic every other freaking racer in the fu@cing genre.

I hope GT keeps getting these slights an GT changes because that's what this generation of Gamer's deserve, cookie cutter IP's all looking alike no unique experiences..just the same game packaged in a new name.

so what if it was not @ level 40 is going to be more sever than level 6 anyhow. Your damage is going to be more severe to you as a player the more you level up due to you should be a better driver as you progress in the game..you are not sup to be damaging your car on purpose!

..The further you go into the game damage is progressive.That may be for all we know based on the personal driver's driving history of each player.that i have seen on first hand basis..

The damage was progressive for many people playing this game. there have been many posting their experience with the game. yes their is many people that have their experience's that may differ than your's or mine what they may think is worse damage or downright horrible. Its pretty subject on the gamer.

does it really matter if he was or was not @ level 40 at this point?

the fact that what the reviewer first wrote the first review:

and I quote:

"The inclusion of damage is so slight as to be insignificant, and even the most violent of crashes will only result in a polygon shifting slightly ajar."

now the fact that he wrote that is proof Enough...

why ask Sony is if you have to unlock further damage ,if you have not seen for your self you would know further through more playing the game.

he than went on to say this:

"There's an unconvincing lack of weight to the big on-track collisions, and as before in Gran Turismo games it does much to break the immersion its handling model does so well to establish. A shame, as drive into a wall hard and long enough (though you'll have to attack it with the ferocity and persistence of a dog on heat) and the damage model will slowly begin to expose itself – something it will more readily do, we hope, after a future patch."

once again why would it matter if it takes repeated hit's to damage the car..there was a reason why GT series did not have damage in the first place , it was to be a driving Simulator. now that damage was added in you still have complaints about but..but..forza 3's damage is better..OMFG the fact that GT5 is not FORZA 3, its not NFS, it's not Burn out..Why the hell does

One racer have to be set an graded on another's vision on what a game is. I mean can a game be unique anymore..?

I have heard so many time's by these reviewers GT has not caught up with the Time's with other racer's..Maybe because it was not meant to be other racer's!

Can I trust this article ?? Does it have a source linking it to Sony ??? I didn't found any

its time to play N4G's favorite game

cognitive dissonance!

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Why did IGN have to go to Sony? If they had just played the game they could have told us themselves. Also I received damage from the start, but have assumed that it will get more severe as the EXP goes up.

Hasn't IGN had enough to say about GT? Or are they stirring it up so people talk about, and visit their site?

For a moment I thought it said "IGN Review Explained"

get your head out of the sand you sony fanboys in here - there is NO progressive damage level in GT5. what you get at level 1 is what you get at level 40.

go into arcade mode, choose a premium car, and go nuts. bash it against walls and other cars, and youll see the damage - slightly deformed bumpers, some scratches and scuff marks, slightly loose bumpers. thats it. thats all she wrote for damage in GT5, unless you get a premium RACE car, in which case doors can fall off.

there is no magical A-spec level that 'unlocks' more damage. there is no progressive damage that gets better and more severe the more you play the game. what you see is what you get.

whats even funnier than watching all the GT fanboy damage control, is realising that they themselves obviously havent even played the game enough to realise that there is no progressive damage thats unlocked after certain levels lol. instead of actually playing the game theyre on here trying to defend the game and making up rubbish that they themselves would know isnt true if they were playing it. next they'll be trying to tell us that at level 70 it unlocks 256 player entire world free roam using Google Earth, all at 120fps at 1920x1080 with 16xMSAA lol.

If IGN played a sufficient amount of the game, at least insofar of being adequate to properly review the game, they would have known that...and probably had mentioned it in their review.

What they did with GT5 is like playing 10hrs of a 60+ hr RPG and passing judgement on it. I normally respect IGNs reviews, and will continue to do so (albeit with more scepticism), but this time they completely dropped the ball.

They clearly didn't play enough. Would that have effected their score, who knows? But they gave the game what can best be described as a cursory glance given the amount of what they missed

I figured this is what was going on. Basically the damage is there from the start, but the damage modelling and detail is slightly better on the higher end premium cars, so people don't start to see it as much until they get to a higher level.

Anyway, after playing it for a few days, have to say I love the game. The damage is sorely disappointing though. Doesn't make the game bad by any means, but let's not forget, this is what PD was promising on all their information displays:

"Further reflecting this realism, cars will feature real-time visual damage with adaptive and accurate car deformation based on point of impact and velocity."

If by "accurate deformation based on point of impact and velocity" they mean the minor ding will occur on the FRONT end of the car rather than the back when you hit a wall at 180mph, then yes, they were correct. Otherwise, that is pretty damned misleading...

http://gamer.blorge.com/201...

Who's telling the truth?

Lol, the internet does the darndest things at times, I still haven't got a copy yet, so the reviews won't phase me at all. You never know what to believe, it even had me going, lol?

It's funny that they asked Sony whether damage was "unlocked", not "increased progressively". Selective questioning at its best.

the games is at 85 at metacritic, i guess everyone is reviewing the game like ign did and didnt play it much.

LMAO
Epic lol @fanboys
You're a bunch of ridiculous persons!!!

Sweet. There is no fail review, only a not so polished game. :p

Man You Niggas is Sad...... Ol Hook @ss Niggas gon actually sit up here and make up some bu11sh!t about why unlocking car Damage at later levels is this illest sh!t on the planet. If thats simulation then ill choose a arcade racer that has car damage out the gate.

No wonder people say there's go-karts in this game...

You fanboy's Keep it official with yourself and you feel better. Don't try to explain the unexplainable.

If you have to get car damage halfway through a season the you had to UNLOCK IT!!! Just like Gun's in COD.

Amazing...Imagine if this was Forza. Many (not all) of the GT fanatics would be bashing the shit out of Forza if it only had full damage on a small percentage of the cars. Not even all of the premium cars have full damage modeling.

I'm not saying that GT isn't a great game. But Forza is also a great game and sony fanatics nit picked the hell out of that (countless links to the vids of cars spinning and other Forza glitches). Yes it had some issues but as all of your are now saying, "what game doesn't". If all of your guys love racing games sooo much, you could have been playing several great games in the last several years if you wern't so blidly fanatical about a game machine.

I was always confused about people saying you have to unlock damage. My first time playing the game I went to Arcade mode and chose a Dodge Challenger and I wrecked it pretty bad.

After two weeks and I'm really missing the Call of Duty Black Ops hype.

ign can kiss my ass,... only link I use is podcast beyond,.. (they have some gay people on ps3 team,.. but it's cool)

Sony milked it to much, and then release that travesty know as GT Sports.

What happened is its an amazing game with monthly free updates.

Great timing to bring this article out. The USA leg of the GT world tour is going on in New York right now, we got confirmation of 5 new cars, a new partnership with Michelin, Wet weather conditions AND Spa.

This game has been rocking fuel mix 3 the entire time its been released, been able to overtake its main competitor with focusing on RACING rather than cars, regularly spaced out free updates for coming onto two years. Now its main competitor has put a halt to updates essentially running out of gas.

Now thanks to this update GT have their best driver behind the wheel and they can use rich fuel mix. They can't be caught.

Its not the same game as it used to be. Forza took the crown after GT5.

"But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme"

I'm currently playing GT Sport. Wheel, H-pattern and full pedal set. Now, whilst I think it's fun, and you get some enjoyable racing out of it, the comment above is laughable if you're even trying to claim Forza or GT are sims. They might used to be the standard a long time ago, but to call them a sim in a world where Assetto Corsa, AMB, RR, and iRacing exist is laughable. It has nice cars. Looks good. Has that certain charm about it, but that's about it. When GT7 comes about, it has to deliver, and I mean deliver big time when it comes to the amount of vehicles it has, and the VR component. If it falls short in either of these, it's done.I say this and I grew up with GT, and loved it. But it's fallen way behind when it comes to proper simulation.

Ah GamingBolt with another piss poor click bate article. GT is doing just fine with around 9 million copies of Sport sold, not bad for a spin off ehh.

My first thought is always GT in this area and GT sport has turned into something great

Who the F... tink froza is simulation? It's the most arcadey game I've seen. Mario kart level. With Lamborghinis going through meadows at 300 km/h chopping down trees.

someone out touch

The days when Gran Turismo was the best selling first party title on a PlayStation console has passed

Nothing. People play this game daily. The subreddit is going strong and people seem pretty happy with the updates. What a stupid article.

After Assetto Corsa I couldn't enjoy console sim racers as much anymore.

Project Cars on PC was another winner for me.

GT Sports happened.

I will always like GT, it has a smoothness you don't get in other racing games... Can't describe it, it's not particularly realistic but quite satisfying/relaxing even.

I love GT Sport, I really be appreciated the content PD have committed to since launch... I do want another numbered entry but I really enjoyed the lean, race-focused nature of GT Sport

I not a fan of racing sims but from what I heard Gran Turismo Sport is quite good and a step forward for the series.