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Ex-Activision Employee Reveals Plot On Dumbed Down PS3 Ports

Black Ops is the biggest game ever released in our industry and yet once again the fans have spoken, why the PS3 version is dumbed down?

This video may very well reveal some answers regarding the unfairness in the industry, out of respect for the person providing the information they will remain Nameless but eventually I may be able to reveal the person who actually stood up for us gamers in this payola situation

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deadreckoning6665532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

Good stuff Hiphop....I think the problem is that Activision doesn't see the need to pressure devs to put their full efforts into the PS3 version because its more time consuming and because they know COD will sell on the PS3 no matter what.

There is also a bigger COD fanbase on the 360, so Activision probably pressures devs to cater to the 360 rather than to the PS3 as far as quality control is concerned. Truly a shame.

-Alpha5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

Knew what?? This is bloody obvious for many multiplat games! It's not just Activision/TA/IW, it's that nearly every multiplat is handled first on the 360 and then ported to the PS3. And guess why devs don't care? Because a majority of sales come from the 360, and the PS3 crowd will get it regardless if they don't have any other options.

I'm not sure if this is a "plot", and HHG's conspiracy-implying title doesn't really have any proof. The title is bound to entice hits but I don't think it's stating anything new. And no offense, but I'm a little mistrusting of HHG reading from a computer screen about a secret Ex-employee.

When HHG says Acti is using Sony, it makes ZERO sense. They release an inferior port-- this isn't new yet he makes it sound like they are out to purposefully make a bad game. Again, he has zero proof for the implication aside from a questionable quote that he applies implications of conspiracy to.

I think it's rash to state that if a game isn't up to par that people need to get fired. Again, he does not know what's actually going on backstage. His whole video is based on an assumption that there is a "conspiracy"

We know that PS3 ports are more poorly handled, it's nothing new at all. In some instances the 360 version of games are inferior (Dragon Age was considered weaker on 360)

Whether or not it is intentional (which I doubt, why risk PS3 sales if Acti is so greedy?) or because the devs have trouble with the PS3 and don't care to put in the effort, I don't know. I personally don't know how developing is done, how hard it is to port a game perfectly, and I question if HHG does either. So to say that it is a "plot" is a heavy assumption to make.

The reason is simple, and Dead_Reckoning said it best. It's a shame, yes, but I don't see what the big deal is for Black Ops here. I have the game, and HHG said it too, the differences are minimal, it's no worse than any other multiplat game. Yes, there are some significant console-specific issues, but they deal mostly with online and I'm not sure if you can pin the blame on a "conspiracy"

The issue with the PS3 was 1) Framerate. This has been fixed-- to anyone following TA they would know that the issue was from the friend's list

2) Dual-log in is lacking. This is the biggest difference and it's terrible. TA says that they had issues for the PS3. I'm hoping they patch it in but at the same time I question if they will care.

Other then that I don't notice a huge difference.

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-Alpha5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

@gamesr4Fun

There is zero evidence to support that aside from the typical conspiracy theories.

It's just another example of the PS3 getting treated second rate, and the reason is simple: The 360 is the lead platform and generates more sales.

With that said, HHG's proof isn't convincing of a conspiracy. All he seems to say is "The PS3 version uses less memory"

Assuming it is true, we can't just conclude that this is done on purpose like HHG does. The "Ex-employee" doesn't even seem to say it, HHG just assumes it.

This is how all conspiracy theories seem to work: weak/vague evidence and sources that rely on exciting people's fascination with a grand cover up.

So, while I'm sure everybody would love the idea of a MS/Activision conspiracy, it has no solid proof. Much like a prophet in a religious book, the audience isn't getting the actual source, you are getting a guy interpreting the word alone then he is relaying the invisible words himself to everybody else. It's not to say that he doesn't have a source, but HHG could have easily mistaken the interpretation he seems to make.

InfectedDK5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

Great to hear some real talk from the HipHopGamer.
he's so right, I hope he's enjoying playing PS3.

Wau.. Just finished the video.. Looking forward to the next! Keep it real gangsta. This is interesting stuff!

StanLee5532d ago

This is bullshit and not true. Developers stake their reputations of their games and there is never the intent to "dumb down" PS3 ports. Asking developers to change the way they've made games for the last 10 years, at an added cost of both time and financial resources to accomodate a minority of fanboys doesn't make sense. The difference between many multiplats games are negligible and developers do the best they can.

Razmossis5532d ago

If I were a moron I'd maybe believe this, but as I'm not, this is just the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Ask yourselves this; If a company was really so money greedy as to intentionally gimp one version of their game, do you really think that same company is going to pay their staff to work overtime on patches for it after release?

I severely doubt it.

raztad5532d ago

Well I'm not advocating any "theory" but fact is Treyarch managed to have BLOPS running on the PS3 much worse than their own previous game WaW. Lower image quality (due to SD level resolution) and much worse framerate. At the same time the xbox version got a slight increase in image quality (slightly higher resolution) while the framerate remained solid. A consistent 15-20fps difference separates both SKUs.

Whatever the reason it is clear to me PS3/PC are not Activision primary focus but xbox and xboxlive subscription money.

ksense5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

@razmossis

While this may or may not be true ur reasoning is dumb.

lets just say if this was true do u really think activision/treyarch is going to make it obvious by not releasing patches or releasing them late and stuff and make it known to everyone they don't give a shit about ps3 systems. The answer is no they care about the money and don't want to be shown in bad light because then no one with just a ps3 will buy their game.

-Alpha5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

@raz

The graphics, overall, are a step either sideways or back from World at War. The engine they used for BO was a modified version of WaW.

Yes, TA's primary console is Xbox. But this does not make this a conspiracy anymore than PS3 games that look better like Dragon Age make EA/Sony have a conspiracy together.

A lot of games look/perform inferior on the PS3. HHG said it himself-- he didn't notice major differences. The quote he uses doesn't even confirm if the game he is talking about is BO or that the memory thing was for a game after release or in production.

gamesR4fun5532d ago

"There is zero evidence to support that aside from the typical conspiracy theories."

yeh just putting it out there and i did say i dont consider hgg a good source...

still way 2 run with it you made some solid points still wouldnt put it past ms ;)

Razmossis5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

My reasoning is sound. Nobody would do something for money, only to turn around and use that same money to reverse what they just done. It defies logic.

Your reasoning, however, seems quite naive.
In reality, the only people who are ever going to hear about this 'conspiracy' - as true or false as it may be - is us, the small minority of people who visit gaming news sites daily... the millions of average (general public) COD buyers aren't going to be affected by this article, I'm sure most of them won't even know what the terms 'port' or 'patch' even mean.

So to say that they intentionally broke the game, then started fixing it again because they "don't want to be shown in a bad light" is just silly. Especially whenever they are the most hated game company already lol

n4gno5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

"Because a majority of sales come from the 360"

stop spreading lies alpha male !

it's real for cod, and some others, but ps3 have sold more hardware and games last year, even on vgchartz.

"TA's primary console is Xbox. But this does not make this a conspiracy anymore than PS3 games that look better like Dragon Age make EA/Sony have a conspiracy together."

First, it's not "conspiracy", but modern marketing, and viral marketing and microsoft is the king for that kind of ugly thing.

second, when a ps3 game look better (most of the time they are the same), it's just normal ! every single multiplatform should be better on ps3, like exclusives are, not because of $$, or lazy devs, just because of superior hardware.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5532d ago

HHG now this is the kind of reporting you should do. Don't sensationalize your stories and get cold hard facts. Done.

stuna15532d ago

@Alpha-Male22
I understand exactly what you are saying, but think about the implication on a bigger scale than what HHGamer is refering too, and the parties likely invovled! What is being said has merit.
In my opinion it's been proven that the ps3 is a more powerful console than the xbox360! By how much, who knows? So why are the same questions being asked over, and over again, when it's fairly obvious that when multiplate titles come along, they almost always perform worse on the ps3. It just doesn't make sense!

Sure the xbox's makeup is closer to the pcs, then the ps3 is! But try comparing the best ps3's first party titles to the xbox's first party titles, and you'll find out really there is no comparison, not trying to be fanboyish! But it's as plain as day, regardless of what people say!

Everyone knows microsoft are not angels in their business practices, and they have been known to throw a curve ball here and there, which is why I find it hard to believe how people still fall for the same crap that been fed to them from the beginning!

NeutralGamer5531d ago

LOL

People used to bash HHG 4 shit and now all of a sudden he is a saint again...

LOL... Just LOL

KageMonkey5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Alpha-Male22, it is actually people with your beliefs that US is in such poor economic state right now.

Guess what? People who don't do any research think it is a "conspiracy" when in reality, those people are the ones that are completely wrong and uninformed.

Let me tell you, the reasons why the US is in such a bad state is because of Corporatism where corporation is tied with the government. So, policies are made to go to wars and banks are bailed out because lots of people in the government profit from it. Military companies, banks, and medical companies, having ties with the government is NOT a conspiracy.

Similarly, Microsoft plays a large part in this corrupted corporatism. They are known to use underhand tactics in order to stranglehold their monopolies. They invest a lot into marketing to trick consumers into buying inferior products. Additionally, instead of spending money on providing better products and cheaper services, it is absolutely in Microsoft's repertoire to pay-for and make underhand deals to ensure competition do not succeed. It is NOT a conspiracy.

Look up the SCO case against Linux. Look up how Microsoft tied IE to the OS to secure the browser monopoly when they KNEW it was a huge security risk. Look up how Microsoft bought the ISO into accepting the inferior OOXML as a standard. Look up how Microsoft supported HD-DVD in order to slow the adoption of BluRay in order to buy time to grow their digital distribution.

Instead of trying to win consumers through innovation and quality products, Microsoft has been shown time and time again to use corrupted business tactics in order to secure a monopoly. Microsoft has every intention to drive Nintendo and Sony out in order to overcharge and reduce R&D in innovation through any means necessary.

If you are a gamer, you SHOULD NOT be supporting Microsoft as they will definitely hurt the gamer in the long run through their constant deceptive marketing and their known cost-cutting into R&D once they secure a monopoly.

JD_Shadow5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Okay, first, we should all HOPE to GOD that this is just some conspiracy theory. Why? Because if it IS true, then the shit will hit the fan REAL fast.

Now, the differences in the two CoD;BO versions may be minimal, but one cannot see the forest from the trees. What HHG is saying is this (and this is a hell of a good way to get my respect back after the Uncharted 2 to 360 mess he did some time back): if you're using X amount of memory on the 360, and then you use less than X memory on a platform that's supposed to have a statistical edge, doesn't that say something about your product and company as a whole? The other thing is that he says they bitch when they have to do a PS3 game, as if it's a chore to them, and they seemed to not care about the PS3 long before Gabe Newell began his rants.

The basic jest of what HHG is saying, and the theorycrafting he came up with? That MS paid off Activision to sabotage the PS3 by putting out an inferior port. Reason why I would think Acti would risk doing that? Because of how much money is in MS's coffers to do that sort of thing. Let's not forget how much MS burned to just get GTA4 DLC! 50 million (loan or not, that's how much it came to)! Now, if they have that much money to burn on DLC, how much money do you think they could burn to really do some damage to the stability and to the integrity of the gaming industry? Also remember that MS isn't exactly the first company to be friendly competitors. They love to try to drive competition out (remember the numerous antitrust lawsuits they've gone through with Windows). I wouldn't DARE put it past them to do this.

And if they did, shame on them for doing it, shame on us for either not screaming about it or not catching on sooner, and shame on the people who will apologize for them to the end (seriously, the fanboys think they can get away with saying anything they want, and then claim PS3 fanboy conspiracy every single time they get called out, even the slightest bit and in any sort of way, for what they say).

EDIT@NeutralGamer: No, it's him making flame bait headlines sometimes that make us want to stab him in the face. However, he does hit gold sometimes, and the way things change so fast in the industry and how deals can be inked or fall out within a matter of DAYS, I don't doubt that some of the things that he's said on his shows that were true when he said them suddenly have a shift to them. No where did we ever say that he was the spawn of Satan or a saint. We criticize him when he deserves it, and we praise him when he deserves it. There's no secret to THAT!

xAlmostPro5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Yes @alpha-male it was obvious, but maybe you missed the point that an actual developer has came out and said that(in this case activision specifically)bad ports for the ps3 are/were being made because they to be honest can't be assed doing anything about it.

The 360 version was running at full 512, while they were running the ps3 at 256 and complaining, when they could get off there asses and fix it or use more ram?..

So basically it's not only lazy, but it is showing hatred and even USING sony/PS3 because they're only releasing a quality product for one console, yet they always state things like "there will be no inferior product" or "there may be some very minor differences" yet they turn out to run like crap on the PS3?.. so basically saying "here we have a great product come buy it" then people buy it and its a piece of crap.

yes multi plats(mostly) sell abit more on the 360 but how is that an excuse to give the ps3 a shit version? it's not.

More so when you look at the fact PS3 exclusives are leaps and bounds above multi-plats and 360 exclusives it shows that when the ps3 is used right it can and does look and run better. So to be honest there is no excuse for the ps3 being downgraded at all, and im not saying they should make uncharted quality versions for the ps3 and standard multi-plats for the 360, im saying it should be fair because we ALL know that the ps3 is more than capable of running these games.

and now for once there's evidence that its happening, and nobody is doing anything to fix or change it because they 'cba' and will get some extra money anyway.

You then mentioned there must bea conspiracy between EA/Sony if this is the case, well no.. maybe EA are actually about quality and realised that it was un-fair to give PS3 bad ports because they, as developers knew it could run them at the same if not better quality and are not lazy so decided to choose the ps3 as the lead platform, and we've all seen how thats turned out.. the games look great on both, the 360 sometimes looks a little worse of you nit-pick but never on the scale of the bad ps3 ports.

Which is just more proof that either something biased is going on or theres to many lazy devs.

I'll go with the biased, and thats because since the ps3 launch its been hated on as a console, as hardware, for bad ports, and to my main point with some pretty unfair reviews and scores.

For example multi-platforms that run worse on ps3 always get scored lower than the 360 version.. yet when the ps3 runs better they get scored equally or even in some cases such as the final fantasy 13 the 360 ran worse and still got scored higher?.. that crap isn't abit 'funny' to you?..

you could also take the latest GT5 scores, lower than forza even though factualy(by playing and actually reading through more then 2-3 reviews) its a better game and even most reviews saying that it looks better, has more content etc. yet still being scored lower?..

im not going to go full crazy and say microsoft are paying for ALL of this, but i will say its super weird & i wouldn't put it past them to have paid a handful of devs and review sites.

This is just my view of course, but when you look at the full picture there defo seems to be some "meh" kind of attitude towards the ps3.

Sorry for the bible size comment guys. excuse any typo's :P

zag5531d ago

This is laughable.

The 360 has 512meg of ram CPU and GFX combined.

the PS3 has 256meg of cell ram and a separate 256meg of ram that's for the GFX card.

So yeah that'd be why this ex-dev only seen the PS3 using 256meg of ram.

The problem with multiplat games is you have the game mainly using MS dev tools simply because it'll be made for windows and then 360 or the other way around.

while the PS3 also uses C you'll need to make all your own tools and if your not fussed about doing that well it's not going to work out well on the PS3.

Wii well be the same deal as the PS3.

jebabcock5531d ago

@Alpha-Male22

I agree with what you said, except for the take on sales. At this point the install base for the 360 and ps3 are close to the same. In business you go for where you can make the quickest easiest increase in profits. It wouldn't be a far stretch to say that by releasing a solid or even better port on the ps3 they wouldn't still keep their massive 360 base, but potentially give a significant boost to their ps3 base. I personally dont think Putting extra effort into the 360 or focusing on it for development is going to give them any boost to sales over putting a little more effort and getting things right on the ps3. Where this has been done, we note that even long term sales are far more substantial on PS3.
Sensible business logic would have(which alot of devs are doing now) focus on the ps3 side to maximize sales. now if microsoft is dishing out the difference, then i can see where someone might not be as will to put in the effort.

metalanime5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

well, when i think about this whole thing, it makes sense:

1. Activision threatened to stop supporting Sony because of thier console prices: http://www.engadget.com/200...

2. Advertisements showed it was for 360 and didnt push for PS3

3. Microsoft was able to just pop out and brag about how it was better on 360. How often does a company do that?

4. The first dev to speak up about the issue was tip toeing around it to avoid getting in trouble, and while that seems normal, given contractual obligations, i doubt he would be put under such a contract if it was just to avoid saying that they did a bad job or that the games was rushed. These things are known fairly often.

5. Aside from whatever marketing money Activision is already getting from MS, Kotick already stated that they get $5 out of every gold subscription and the price hike was partially due to that. And though we dont know how long they will reap the rewards, it seems that they get this for every new subscription, so they are capitalizing on more than just their game and input.

Put all this together, and it just fits to well to pass it off as another multi-plat gone wrong. Hell, it could be that most multi-plat devs are paid off by ms in the first place, but just to a lesser extent, but that doesnt really make the practice ok.

As far as why would Acti hurt them selves to make an inferior port, the arent.

They save money by not putting time/effort into the ps3 version, they make most of the money they would have made anyway because people still go out and by COD, so largely the only loss they take there are people who likely were just tired of getting recycled COD games, which isnt a huge percentage. And im sure they got millions for pushing the 360 version in ads, plus $5 out of how many million live subscriptions?

Alpha male, the only thing you are right about is that we dont have solid proof, but i dont see how, given the above info, it doesnt seem most likely that Sony and Sony gamers are intentionally getting screwed while Activision and MS only stand to make money off of their partnership.

Really, the only points you made were in regards to proof. Even in your previous rant on the subject of Kotick admitting that they were a cause for live going up in price, pretty much everything you said was crap and had a counter point that invalidated your defense or skepticism about the entire issue.

What little facts we do have about this issue may not be enough to state as a fact what people are raging about, but its more than enough for a person to see that chances are in favor of this being the case.

Everything Kagemonkey said was absolutely true, corporations drive the U.S., and considering that these two companies are some of the biggest in their respective industries, this is just more of the same.

BattleAxe5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Did anyone actually read Alpha Male's overly drawn out garble....I know I didn't.

Anyway, the lack of quality in the latest CoD is very evident, especially when it comes to the horrible stability issues while playing online. CoD was definately one of my favorite franchises, but not anymore, and I'm even considering trading this game in. I kinda want to get Medal of Honor, but it just doesn't have much content. So it looks like I'll be playing Counter Strike Source on PC while I wait for Crysis 2 and Killzone 3 to come out.

theaceh5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

If Activision is not going to put the same amount of effort on PS3 games, then Activision PS3 games should cost $50.00 or $45.00 while Xbox games should cost the full $65.00

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visualb5532d ago

HHg is full of crap when it comes to his speculations, but this seems to be well done.

no source or proof...but I wouldn't doubt he'd invent this =|

well...its a possibility.
@ alpha

so PS3 games DESERVE to be worst quality because of 360 having better sales?
maybe if they made PS3 versions better that wouldn't be the case?

theres no excuse, it doesn't cost that much anymore to make a game on PS3 equal. So many developers do it, the"sales" excuse is bullsh*t

the real reason - they are lazy

they just want to copy paste the code = pathetic. pathetic pathetic pathetic. no credibility.
a company that has a LOT of money and resources doesn't have the resources to make the code work for the PS3?

inexcusable, and you are excusing it =|

fact is

activision are lazy publishers (looks at MW2, repeated rehashed rushed sequels to cash, no effort done in its development) and anyone working under them so far have been horrible for the past few years...

+ he makes a good point. theres no reason other than developer competence for the game to run worst on the PS3, yet MS stated that 360 would "run the game better"

maybe MS knew how incompetent Treyarch were as a developer not...you decide.

either way, I feel activision and games like cod are good in a way (bring money and attention to the gaming industry) but they are also ruining a lot of aspects of the gaming industry...

-Alpha5532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

You misunderstood a lot of what I said. I wasn't trying to make excuses, I was trying to illustrate how people are quick to believe conspiracy theories and how what HHG is providing isn't in any way solid evidence. All he did was show, like many other multiplats, that the PS3 version was ported and inferior.

I never said PS3 games deserve to be worse because of sales. I am saying that because they sell more on the 360 that's part of the reason why devs don't seem to care. And it will continue to be like that.

Personally I think that devs do try, I don't think they purposely make a bad port. To think that is just silly, devs wouldn't risk hurting themselves like that. If you think MS paid them then it's up to you to provide proof. And no, HHG's mysterious quote isn't proof, it's questionable evidence.

Since PS3 is a secondary console to the 360 for a majority of multiplatform games, they don't bother ironing out all the issues.

I never was making excuses for it, however to say it is a conspiracy to keep the PS3 down has NO proof. Yet people believe it because they want to. I 100% it is out of laziness for the most part.

However, I don't blame Treyarch, I blame Activision because they churn out games on a schedule and don't give devs time. However, Activision is not the only ones who do this. That is my point. People want to tie Acti+MS as being in a conspiracy theory because it's easy to think when they are portrayed both as evil giants and since they seem to have deals together. But this requires proof, all we have is assumptions.

"they just want to copy paste the code = pathetic"

If it's the same game, then I would expect a copy and paste. The issue I think comes when pasting doesn't work as intended when the console is different. At least that's how I understand developing, I don't know how it works for sure.

MS never said the game runs better. They said 'everyone knows the best place to play Black Ops is on Xbox 360'

dredgewalker5532d ago

As much as I hate Activision I find this unbelievable because there is no evidence of the accusation. I'm one of the biggest Activision hatere but dumbing down their PS3 ports is a bad business move. I can believe that they are incompetent with PS3 ports but sabotage is utter stupidity.

N4Great5532d ago

@alpha troll

"I never said PS3 games deserve to be worse because of sales. I am saying that because they sell more on the 360 that's part of the reason why devs don't seem to care. And it will continue to be like that. "

why so many xfanboyz are misinformed ? only cod and some others u.s popular franchises sold better on xbox, ps3 games and console are selling better, so stop pretending the contrary, you are trying, like the worst fanboy, to spread misinformation "dev are not so interested by ps3, don't buy it, it would never change" LOL, dumb troll.

the logic would want to see superior versions on ps3, every dev who don't achieve that is : not good enough, lazy, or paid by microsoft, it's just obvious.

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OhMyGandhi5531d ago

lol @ StanLee way up there.
"The difference between many multiplat games are negligible and developers do the best they can. "

that's hilarious.
when money is involves, there is no "best they can" mentality when it comes to a multiplat game.
They want people to sit back, be obedient little puppies and believe that they truly "tried their hardest" to make each port perfect.

unfortunately. that innocence died once games started to cost many millions of dollars to make.

I'm guessing that 2+2=5 to you, StanLee.

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socomnick5532d ago

jesus christ, HHG loves making sh#% up.

kanetheking5532d ago

just as much as you nick.but back on topic it's hhg not much to say but lol.why would anyone make a game worse?

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Scary695532d ago (Edited 5532d ago )

You know what is the best remedy for this type of crap? STOP supporting these types of companies, plain and simple. STOP believing in all the hype when it comes to ported game.It's been said on here over and over.

LeShin5531d ago

Well said!!! The best way to hurt a company is not to let them have your pounds/dollars/(insert other currency here). There are alternatives, Medal Of Honour, Battlefield etc... If you buy COD, then don't open your mouth and complain if features are missing or if glitches are more apparent in one version more than the other. Out of interest: One of my friends tell me hat the 360 version has split screen online multiplayer and the PS3 doesn't...is this true?!

Ravenor5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

@1.4.1

The PS3 version has splitscreen online MP, you are only limited to one PSN logon at a time. Games like Resistance 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 and Modnation Racers that allow 2 at a time are few and far between unfortunately.

I own the PS3 version and never noticed anything that looked excessively worse then Modern Warfare 2 on the PS3. Has anyone noticed that in Splitscreen you get the fullscreen for the split? Not just little boxes with black borders around the edges? Thats a clear improvement over MW2 and WaW right there.

JsonHenry5532d ago

Lol, this guy cracks me up. I wonder if he ever listens to himself talk and realize how dumb he sounds?

I am not saying that he IS dumb. Just he talks in such a way that I would expect some inner city junior high drop out should talk.

But then he talks sometimes and sounds perfectly normal. I wonder if all the ebonics is just an act for "street cred"?

On topic - he did make a couple good point.

Seraphim5532d ago

this is idiotic...

the PS3 only has split 512 Ram while the 360 has a dedicated 512. The PS3 uses 256mb XDR main Ram and another 256mb DDR3 VRam. Which would easily explain the 256 PS3 vs 512 360. Now I'm no wizz and not sure how things would go but imho this just proves how dumb everyone is and why this site is FAIL!

NecrumSlavery5532d ago

All I have to say is Uncharted 2. No loading, Unmatched visuals. it comes down to lazy or inexperienced developers

WoshJills5531d ago

Good developers start with the PS3's independent parts (cell broadband engine and dual RAM) then merge the code to put onto the PC and Xbox.

Bad ports are made when developers create unified code and attempt to divide it up for the PS3.

xAlmostPro5531d ago

lol exactly yes its 512mb is split but if you add up 256+256 = 512mb which is the same, not only that the cpu's that are left doing nothing in multi-plats can be used to do all the number crunching at super fast rates and offload loads of pressure from the ram itself..

not only thatlike necrum mentioned if games like uncharted 2 etc can be produced on the ps3 bceause developers know what they're doing there should be no bad port.

Ea use the ps3 as the lead platform and the ps3 versions are always equal or fair.

Look at what valve have been saying recently, and will be using the ps3 as the console lead, and have stated the ps3 will have the better version?..

its called lazy/biased developers.

thedarkvault5531d ago

yeah that's what I was thinking, obviously they aren't using 100% of the XDR and 0% of the VRAM or vice versa. This employee either doesn't really understand the PS3's memory or just didn't explain it well enough to HHG. If a dev is going to be lazy with their code they are going to make it use ALL the ram inefficiently, not code it to be able to run effectively with half the ram available.

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Silver3605532d ago

Half witted speculation. The PS3's memory is split. They were most likely just getting it to run before they expanded the code to the other 256k. Dumb crap article.

TheLastGuardian5531d ago

You made some good points in this video. Now I know why Black Ops was at Microsofts conference and why all the Black Ops ads only specify that it's on 360 and Xbox live.

Ravenor5531d ago

So was MW2 and CoD4. Those games weren't equal on both platforms! If MS is willing to foot the bill for the ads and put more forward then Sony, Activision would be stupid not to go with Microsoft. Call of Duty 2 was also shown at all the Xbox events before then 360 was launched.

ngecenk5531d ago

well i dont need hhg to tell me that. its obvious. only few devs respect ps3 porting: most ea dev like dice, danger close, nfs series, and most of japan devs. some publishers are not: ubisoft and activision.

as a ps3 user, i refuse to buy those game until they change their behaviour. and you should too. its sad that this dev are ignorant about our rant. they could try harder, its not like ps3 is underperformed by xbox 360. but porting is costly. activision and ubisoft doesny feel the need of doing so since ps3 user will buy the game anyway.

N4g_null5531d ago

Very long post... no NDAs are broken just years of watching my friend get laid off and two companies fighing for a monopoly.

Here goes.......

Imagine what it feels like to see two titans collide HHP.

I will sum things up for you. The console industry and the PC gaming idustry are now one. The same problems followed.

Their are only a few devs that are still console like.

This began near the end of the PS2. When the goals of the xbox 360 specs where sent out and met. Sure the games ran like crap then but the 360 had an PS2 effect on the industry.

What do I mean by PS2 effect? Well if you remember the PS2 was actualy the inferior console but since every one was already aboard 3rd parties put both feet in and made some great tools and engines for that system while the GC was ignored and called kiddy and MS was seen as an underdog that did not send out money hats to every one.

During this time various people where paid extra money to make PS2 games and SONY actualy bought stock in various companies. What is more important than both of those? Sales some where north of 5 million every one is made a winner. What makes sales happen advertisment... boy does MS know how to do ads.

Some would see this as evil and bad of MS. They( SONY and MS) called it buisness. It was fine during the PS2 right? Ok MS knew the PC gaming was going to tank. So MS actualy starts offering to pay developers 1million dollars just to develop for the 360. I remember hell I even tough about starting some thing up along with others till i saw the other deals happening.

That was the public number, epic has been paid a huge untold amount along with bugie and others. MS found SONYs secret. Devs just want to be paid to take risks. Gamers are fickle and we all understand the HD gen would be do or die for many developers due to cost. It was time to round up the wagons. We where about to try and make movie level graphics for console LOL.

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N4g_null5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

All of the big companies would be doing this even id sold them selves to a another company.

The type of art needed and tech needed for HD development was sky high. A fully loaded work station back then was 30,000-70,000 just for 3d modeling. Don't believe me then look back 4 gigs of ram cost $2,000. We needed 8 just to get started and we quickly saw 32 was the standard needed. How many times do 4 go into 32? 8, maybe now 8 times $2,000 is what $16,000? Just for the ram. Now think about it you have 100 people plus modeling. Thats one million just for half the crew. Then we are not going to talk about wages and perks to try and keep your talent.

Ok that was around 2003. Epics UT3 was every one savor till we try to use it on the PS3.

This was the part where the titans colided. Did you know the PS3 was actualy not going to have the RSX in it? What made them change their mind was epics engine. The PS3 was going to be infinitly harder to program for because sony wanted to make a larrabee then let the developers make the drivers which is basicly part of the comprimise we are at now.

To use the cells correctly you will need a hardware programmer like the type that writes driver code for high end GPUs, CPU, etc. Basicly you would have to get some one from MS or an OS or chip maker. The rumor was Nvidia was going to do it. The truth is SONY has done it yet they are not ponying up the money for other to do it.

Lots of people call it the PS3 tax. You have to pay a hidden cost to make your own game exclusive. The problem is you have already invested all this money and you can't even port to the wii. So your stuck make it on the PS3 or die right?

Well MS got wind of this. Relizing that SONY can send out money hats and that SONY has failed in using their hardware to stop ports MS decided to offer "packages" for pubs and developers to keep operating.

SONY could not pay for EnixSq development, other wise MS would have never got that game.

Why do you think PS3 excluse run so much better? A normal coder even with experience is not ready to code a ring bus like high end memory subsystem hell even AMD has problems with it some times. ND make it sounds so easy yet it's not. Those guys spent 3 years almost just writing the memory systems other could not afford this since they are not funded by SONY.

Notice how Japan struggles to get western like performance out of the PS3? You will have to use the RSX and make a memory controller that can do in software what the current GPUs do with cuda. Even id had to bring in a Cell programmer and a big part of mega texturing is memory subsystems. Game programming is different than high end hardware drivers. You guys hated their game but factor 5 was one of the few that could do this.

Sure there are specs in the SDK but there isn't too much help in reaching them unless you have sony funding you dirrectly. Other wise developers pay for tools to do this. SONY can not fund the pub and devs directly so they buy up a few devs and have to peace together the parts needed to make the PS3 shine.

The problem is devs want their code, just like how silicon knights wanted the new UT3 engine. With out this you are seeing a silent rebelion.

N4g_null5531d ago

So sonys problem is the idea of locking a dev or game to the platform based on the crazy ammount of money involved in making the game work has backfired. MS is only pouring money into that wound. The cell was suppose to be SONY new monolopy of the game industry reborn. It doesn't offer considerable leaps in preformance just a few percentage yet when you compare this to what you paid for development it's simply not worth it.

Oh yeah devs didn't develop for the the GC and the wii for the same issues. Nintendo used tech that was harder to use. Building code to make an interface for shaders is not easy. These guys get paid top dollar.

It's not a conspiracy it's been infront of your face the whole time.

The more open your platform and easier it is for developers to make a game the more support you get. This is how MS beat apple and how it's beat sony for this long.

Yet the other part of the equation is SONY is going to ditch the cell to fix this so why start developing for it now? That is only a rumor, if SONY doesn't do this the PS4 is going to suffer even more because it's not going to keep up with open GL3 hardware at all and high end driver like programers are not going to get cheaper.

In the mean time the effects of PC elitism and graphic levels are going to cause gamers to not over look having the best possible graphics due to how much they paid for their console.

To sum it all up sony wanted a hardware monoply like the PS2. Publishers saw it not working due to the ammount of money needed and sony wasn't paying/helping and MS is.

If sony falls it will take down a few big names with it right now also in japan. Yet sony is too big to fall, i would wager the bailout in japan was to help them along with others.

It's so easy to make good drivers right? Well thats what normal people call them. It's damn expensive. You have a rsx which has it's own driver and really isn't set up to work with the cells. It's so much easier to ask for this performance yet they bill included with it and a failed game cost will kill a company.

It's only going to get worst if gamers keep demanding more.

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I'm suprised HHG got an email from an ex employee LOL. I'm sure he will get some calls from activisions NDA crew. Unless he is part of the defectors that recently left he is a sitting duck.

Never say what company or companies you worked for never LOL.

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It's not obvious to many not even some that work in the industry. I believe they think the money just comes from elves or trolls under some bridge.

metalanime5531d ago

It sounds like sony secret, which you are saying MS found, was getting exclusive titles or devs, like your point about epic/bungie, but that just like sony has a contract with media molecule, not like making a game for two platforms and knowingly leaving one inferior.

raztad5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Interesting theory scissor but point is we are 4 years into the gen and multiplat devels are still lacking for the most part. You would expect better ports and developers fine tuning their engines for better performance, regardless how hard is to program for the PS3.

Some cases need to be noticed tho, Criterion had both Bornout:P and the splendid NFS:HP running top notch on the PS3. Even Mercury (relatively unknown company) pulled an awesome C:Lord of Shadow SKu on the PS3. Platinum made Vanquish the best on the PS3, which was quite a progress after the disaster that was Bayonetta, released this very same year. It looks to me that is not impossible, 4 years is not a short time to learn the tricks and develop a good engine.

Activision is in a win/win situation. They couldnt care less about CoD PS3, yet PS3 owners will get it in droves. To me having BLOPS to run/look worse than WaW is unforgivable.

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TVippy5531d ago

12 minutes of my life wasted. He says obvious things for 12 mins...

King-Leonidas5531d ago

I have the ps3 version. and by far the ps3 version sucks ass!! I get disconnected of every match, seriously every match but that´s not only me all the players get disconnected as well

Ravenor5531d ago

I don't get disconnected EVERY game. Exaggerate moar.

King-Leonidas5531d ago

well i do and im not exagerating

r1sh125531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Ok a few things need to be realised here. Yes the PS3 version is not as good, but I capture games for youtube and the difference is a tiny.
Now as for activision doing it on purpose is I think there is a small reason for the difference, but what many many people do not understand.
THe PS3 is not easy to code for, and how can an ex employee say 'copy and paste PC/xbox 360' code. The code for xbox and PC is different from eachother?
At first many people were not going to be able to code amazingly well unless it was an entire dedicated team to the single platform, I know this because as part of my university course I did a module of game design. I looked at both Sony and MS, and in all seriousness The Xbox is easier to code for.
Not to say that SOny is garbage, but the language and tools are different so the learning curve was greater. Ms made it easy to use the dev tools, but with that being said there is clearly something going on.
EA manages to get pretty much identical games out, slight difference in colour and brightness but other than that very similar looking games.
The problem with this bulletin is the actual proof is an email which we will not be allowed to see.
With this accusations and no concrete evidence (yet), HHG has compromised his fairness between competitors in the gaming industry.
He said in this video when he gets another interview with Josh Olin hes gonna ask him, what company would allow someone who has pretty much dumped all over their work give him an interview?
He accused MS's call of duty deal also (still need proof), MS are gonna refuse his interviews.
Hes lost his credibility by throwing out accusations, he should have spoken with a fairer mind.

BigO5531d ago

Yea microsoft spends most of their money on propaganda advertising and paying companies off. Just like FOX news if you got the money you can buy anything. GREEDY sons of bitches all we gamers is the best game you can make on our preferred system. I'm glad that sony uses their resources to develop new tech.

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trounbyfire5532d ago

dang the video player doesn't work on ps3 browser. have to get up and go to the pc but i am lazy. can someone sum it up for me

farhad2k85532d ago

Basically, the dude found out that ACtivision dont give a crap about the PS3, they use less memory on the PS3 PORTS so it becomes slow i.e. black ops.

NYC_Gamer5532d ago

most 3rd party devs cater to the 360 because its cheaper development wise

vhero5531d ago

Exactly I been saying this for the last 4 years but I get called from all the fanboys and be labelled a fanboy myself. It's a simple fact that its cheaper to develop for the 360 but the fanboys think in their heads that its because the console is more powerful. I mean we all know it's not that case at all it's all about the developers which is why we should stop these stupid comparison articles as they prove nothing unless there is MASSIVE noticeable differences in the game like with FFXIII.

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Malicious5532d ago

It's from HHG so it's safe to say that this is BS.

outwar60105532d ago

hes done some good stuff before like the time he went to gamestop with a hidden cam and proved how the staff consciously try to undersell the ps3 and are pushy when it comes to the 360(it was over a year ago but it stuck with me and cant find link)

Ravenor5531d ago

Wow, he's quite the Erin Brokovich! Did he do it all in Stilleto's and a short skirt? I'm curious. Who cares what Gamestop employee's say? Who really listens to any teenager behind a counter?

This vid is crap.

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Kotick claims lawsuit objecting to MS-Activision deal was "tied to Embracer's desire to boost sales"

Former CEO describes lawsuit filed by Swedish pension fund as a "collateral attack" on Activision Blizzard.

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OpenGL1d 2h ago

Yeah, the Microsoft deal has DEFINITELY worked out for everyone.

galgor23h ago

Can this mother fucker just get lost already

PRIMORDUS22h ago

He belongs in here ⚰️, hopefully sooner than later.

MrDead7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Kotick Made $155 million from MS in the buyout, the little b*tch needs to stop whining. Thanks to this Microslop deal and massive industry consolidation thousands upon thousands of devs and other workers lost their livelihoods. This greedy piggie pervert needs shut up and f-off.

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StoneTitan51d ago

Because ms is so good at managing studios, surely they will get it right

:P

franwex51d ago

In my view, they should probably merge MP with Warzone and essentially make it free to play like Halo Infinite. The campaign/zombies mode can be $30 yearly DLC. I know this would be insanity as most COD players essentially pay the full price of the game simply for the MP. However-with a shrinking player base they may have to consider it. Making it free would bring in a ton of players.

Profchaos51d ago

To late MW3 should have been a lesson but here we are two years later with a steaming pile a shite called blops7

bsingle4051d ago

Nothing lasts forever, eventually something will come along to make people forget about COD

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1Victor51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

@Oumba:”We’ve heard that story many times before 😂”
You know what we seen many times good franchises been run into the ground by bad management like h___o , f___a and most of the sports game oh I forgot the dynasty warriors
Oh forgot to say
Happy thanksgiving to all the N4G members
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MDTunkown50d ago

Halo killer once arrived and technically call of duty killer also arrived, its name is Fortnite

dveio51d ago

Call of Duty was riding the revenue horse and charts for ~20 years. Whether undeserved or deserved.

But I endorse everyone to remind you that Microsoft could have decided differently when they took it over.

The money was certainly there, and they could have taken their time revamping the franchise:

Current-gen tech, manageable microtransactions, not imitating Fortnite and returning to core values of the franchise's origin.

They didn't.

Let's see next year. Hopefully without the then 13 years old PS4 and One hardware.

blacktiger51d ago

you need to stop saying "let see next year"

XBManiac50d ago

dveo is an alias of Phil Spencer?

XBManiac50d ago

dveio is an alias of Phil Spencer?

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Xbox May Update: Retro Classics Come to Xbox Game Pass, PC Gaming Updates, and More

A variety of new updates are available this month across the gaming platforms. Coming today, Retro Classics games are available to play for Xbox Game Pass members. Players who stream on the Xbox app on PC now have an additional streaming option with GeForce Now. Game Bar introduces quick settings, visual updates for Widgets in Compact Mode, and coming soon, Microsoft Edge Game Assist, an in-game browser that brings an immersive game-centric experience to Edge. And Xbox gift cards can now be redeemed for any amount via Xbox Rewards.

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darthv72240d ago

While i appreciate the gesture.... all of these retro classics have been made available everywhere else. I am hoping to see some other Activision properties make their way out of the shackles of the 5th, 6th and 7th gen. Licensing be damned... bring back the Transformers Cybertron games.

P_Bomb239d ago

Love the Cybertron games! TF games have been shit lately. Would love to see that era revisited. I even did the multiplayer!

MrBaskerville239d ago

Is the retro classics for all consoles?

Obscure_Observer240d ago

Metaphor on Gamepass just announced! O.o

Seriously, this is the best generation of Xbox ever!!!

We can´t catch a freaking break from awesome games arriving all the time!!!

Deathdeliverer239d ago

It’s a HELL of a game. If you like JRPGs in the family of Persona, you will be in heaven… that is until you hear the various battle music…. then you’ll be somewhere BEYOND heaven!

babadivad239d ago

Just finished Clair Obscur. This should be fun.