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Sony: 'More Damage Features Headed To GT5'

An SCEE representative has confirmed to NowGamer that more damage features are set for Gran Turismo 5 'at a later date'...

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r0gueZA5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

And while you at it, fix the awful bass 'thud' when you bump a car... it sounds so hollow, and not realisic.

Bobbykotickrulesz5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

So I'm buying this game today. I don't have a wheel. Noooooo D:

Seriously, if this game is amazing, I'll order the wheel online. The 300 dollar one baby!

Also, do standard cars not have an interior view? Or.. Because that would suck ass.

Blacktric5666d ago

No, unfortunately they don't and that's the only problem I have with GT 5. Not graphics, car sounds, physics but just that. Anyway, I need to get myself a DualShock 3 first. Then I'm going to make sweet love with it all year.

gypsygib5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

They should have given the standard cars a "standard" shared interior view. It's better than no view at all.

poopoojames5666d ago

interior view is standard even in casual arcade racers. That is a bullshit design decision and it will show in the reviews. And what are they gonna do, patch in damage? You had 5 years to perfect it... what a joke

oohWii5666d ago

Seriously though, after five years and all the delays. Why are people complaining about so many things. What were they doing in the extra time they took.

"more damage featuers" I thought the damage engine was part of what the delay was for.

Now people are talking about having a cockpit view on standard cars. Perhaps they should have skipped the NASCAR, and CARTS and added custom wheels and cockpit views to standard cars.

IRetrouk5665d ago

nfs hp dosnt have an interior view, thats an arcade racer, same with burnout.

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soundslike5666d ago

I happen to actually like that thud lol

dabri55666d ago

I just want to know if it still has the "bumper cars" feel to it when hitting a guard rail or another car. I hated the fact that the best track times were the people who knew how to "ride the rails" or use the car next to you to keep you in line on the track while you speed through a turn at speeds that should crash you.

ShinMaster5666d ago

No you can't just bump without consequence in GT5.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2095...

dabri55666d ago

lol, that wasn't riding the car around the corner, that was a t-bone hit. Though, it did look pretty cool.

STONEY45666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

I tried the bumper cars thing earlier. At lower speeds, it does have that effect somewhat, but at 80mph+, try to ride a rail or use a car as bumper and you'll enter a spin or have a few seconds of air time. I'd say they fixed the issue pretty well.

mushroomwig5666d ago

Because the 5 years of development wasn't enough?

AssassinHD5666d ago

Do you think you could have done better?

deadreckoning6665666d ago

Mushroomwig as far as my knowledge is concerned, is not a game developer...nor did he delay a highly anticipated video game due to promises of "perfection"

NBT915666d ago

In five years... Possibly yes actually.

ShinMaster5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

GT5 development kicked in when the GTHD Concept was scratched.
That means 2007 - 2008 - 2009 - 2010

4 years.

Belasco5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

Its not Mushrooms job to develop games, I agree with dead.

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ALFAxD_CENTAURO5666d ago

According to Yamauchi, is not enough.

raztad5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

Yamauchi said it would need 10 years to produce the GT he wanted. 5 years is just half way :D They had to make compromises for the game. At the same time it has to be a relief (for them) to finally have this game out. So much pressure and hype upon it.

The damage system in GT5 is real time not scripted, and it is supposed to be unlocked as you go. Like a RPG, very Japanese design decision but fits very well the game.

Omega5666d ago

@raztad Unlocked as you go like an RPG. Umm no man i don't think so, this ain't no RPG game but a racing sim. When have you seen a racing game that you have to unlock a damage system for only 200 out of a 1000 cars. The game looks awsome but getting only 200 cars that have cockpit view, damage system and customizable stuff really sucks. Maybe with an update they can release the rest of the cars with damage and cockpit views.

DigitalAnalog5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

You demand to much. Sometimes it just sickens me when people go out of their way to make games "cater" to themselves rather than let games be "what the visionary" designed it to be.

To me, GT5 could might as well be a reboot to GT1, he could've given you 200+ premiums without standard cars. He could've ditched the NASCAR and Go-Kart racing. He could've ditched the weather implementation systems and release the game earlier.

Even with all those aspects removed, the game would definitely warrant a higher score. Why? Because there would be no more standard to compare, no one would complain about limited "weather" in tracks. Every focus would be on the beautifully rendered 200+ cars and re-created tracks.

But, PD made it otherwise. And I applaud Yamauchi for chasing his "dream". Knowing full well that it would affect the scores.

"When have you seen a racing game that you have to unlock a damage system for only 200 out of a 1000 cars."

Because it's designed to bring "newcomers" up to get in-dibs with the game. How does one "learn" to run a simulator? Does everything needed to be thrown at your face from the start? How do you learn to progress in a simulator?

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iceman065666d ago

@ Omega
It's not unlocked like an RPG. It was a design decision to keep the frustration level low for those people that might be newer to the game. The damage isn't just cosmetic. It effects the way the car drives. Driving in GT is hard enough...let alone driving with altered or damaged car physics. I guess Yamauchi decided that level 20 was the perfect place to challenge drivers with damage. We might not agree, but that is the reason nonetheless.

Omega5666d ago

@digitalanalog Well im sorry if I sicken you but if we didn't demand much in our games it wouldn't be the way they are now. They listen to us "gamers" to give us what we want so we can buy their games. Also I'm not saying the game is bad but looks unfinished (online portion and car detail with customization) also Yamauchi thinks so too because if it were up to him the game would be done in a few more years.

IRetrouk5665d ago

you cant demand that much if you still trollin ps3 articles, online works fine for me the car damage is a lot better than peps are saying and the customization of the cars is exactly like forza only diff, no custom paint jobs, but what we do get is race modifications, which transform your car into a beast.

ComboBreaker5665d ago (Edited 5665d ago )

You demands means nothing to PD. PD laughs at your petty demands. PD will never ever waste their precious time trying to meet the petty demands of pathetic trolls who are never going to buy the game anyway.

PD will only cater to us, the Elite Real Driving Simulator Fans.

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nickjkl5666d ago

technically no amount of development time is enough if things can still be added then the game will for ever be incomplete

the game kaz is trying to accomplish is a game where all cars ever made from the model T to now are all rendered at a higher quality than the currently released premium cars

have stands filled with thousands of 3d modeled people

any skid marks you create become one with the track for all future races

and some rpg elements such as burning your tires off and having them fly off causing you to lose control

engine failures mostly from running your engine to hard being able to wreck your clutch or at least wear it out

i had to tone back my expectations such as people going through windows cars exploding

among other things thats al i can think of

basically im saying if you can think of something to put in a game it will never be enough

Akagi5666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

They're clearly testing the water with the damage. Frankly, I'm content the way it is. I didn't buy all the other GTs to crash expensive cars into walls at ridiculous speeds to see the outcome. I play GT as it's a simulation. If you have a decent wheel, then you'll know damage, extreme damage, is an annoyance after a while.

Do you want damage akin to real life where you hit a wall at 30 MPH and have the chance of writing off the car? I don't. If you want a game where damage is a part of the gameplay, go buy Burnout or NFS. Take your pick. Also, why do you assume they spend 5 years developing car damage? It may have been decided 2-3 years into the development.

@topic: I don't understand why you aren't welcoming this? They're giving you what *you* want, yet you are still sarcastic about it. Gamers are indeed fickle.

nickjkl5666d ago

akagi that would be fine and all if gran turismo 5 didnt have the same kind of damage that you are saying it doesnt while trying to defend it from the people who say it doesnt have damage

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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MGRogue20175666d ago (Edited 5666d ago )

Fantastic news... But what I really want is to be able to pan the camera around my vehicle & also look around the cockpit view at any time during gameplay via the right analogue stick. :)

Omega Zues5666d ago

It still gets better and better. What did you think? GT5 would release and thats it? Oh no, it can only get better and better. Its already Gold as is now.

GamerSciz5666d ago

Damage looks fine to me...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

However I have heard this is more about mechanical damage then visual.

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow1405d ago (Edited 1405d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel19891405d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow1405d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel19891405d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled1405d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher1405d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim1405d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow1405d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv722472d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro2472d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig2472d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright2472d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19922472d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright2472d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk2471d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright2471d ago (Edited 2471d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare22471d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san2470d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19822472d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech2472d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss2472d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX2472d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright2472d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali2472d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm2472d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde2472d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare22471d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright2471d ago (Edited 2471d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk2471d ago (Edited 2471d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX2471d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk2471d ago (Edited 2471d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright2471d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x2472d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke2472d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech2472d ago (Edited 2472d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig2472d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca2472d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis2472d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz2472d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19812472d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z2472d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig2472d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z2472d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King2472d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red2509d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr2509d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay2509d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red2509d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM2509d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr2509d ago (Edited 2509d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san2508d ago (Edited 2508d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants2509d ago (Edited 2509d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay2509d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red2509d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7122509d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz2509d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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