haha, I apologize, I meant exactly what you said.

Guess I just worded it weirdly.

sure.. the idea has been around for a long time

but i dont think sony released the eyetoy thinking "oh this is going to make me millions"

it was just an accessory ... MS really did launch kinect as a new complete console..

the marketing made it known all over the world... wether u like kinect or not u know what it is...

i honestly never heard of the eye toy until Ms show NATAL....

so yeah.. its bolder cuz its riskier..

its confusing actually Ms doesnt tend to be innovative, they tend to follow cuz its cheaper..

they took the risk this time and i think they make a mistake... just my Honest O

And 17 years ago we had this...

@8-bit, that video just proves that Microsoft really need to up their game if they want to prove that Kinect is not just an updated Eyetoy.

You're missing the point 8-bit. While most people are looking to enhance and improve upon gaming controllers giving gamers more precision and control, Microsoft is taking the bold approach of going the other direction bass ackwards.

Another article by someone hob gobbling on microsoft nuts!

Someone always talking about the risks microsoft took, please the only risk I see microsoft taking is trying to convince so many people about a product that their sure that they have seen before, that they really haven't seen it before! And get away with it! That innovation I hear so many screaming on about, where is it?

As I recall kinect is microsofts baby, only in name! Because it isn't even their technology ! It's the company that they were so quick to buy up, just in the chance that the motion technology would actually be feasible.
Even though their competitors had already rejected it applications to the gaming arena! But I guess coming late to the party, is better than not coming at all.
Everyone knows that microsoft are not innovators in any of the areas that they operate in, be it OS, Phones, Tablets, or kinect! But I will give them this credit! They have made improvements in alot of those areas I mentioned.

Move wasn't using Wii as market research, you fool.
They've been working on this since the PS2, and only wanted to bring out something that worked properly.

Rather than bring out a Wii Motion Plus version years down the line.

As for Kinect having promise, I'm not so sure. You may think using your body as a control seems more free, but in reality it's more restricted.

gamingdroid

You won't have to look far to see what is coming for Kinect. Just look back at the catalog for eyetoy for the Ps2 and voila there in the past, you find the future!

"Move wasn't using Wii as market research, you fool.
They've been working on this since the PS2, and only wanted to bring out something that worked properly. "

you'd have to be an idiot to think that the move won't benefit from the existing research into game applications developed for the Wii.

Actually, after spending over 500 million on advertising it's sort of a terrible number. Especially when every other commercial on TV or in a mall is a Kinect commercial. Not to mention Microsoft is sponsoring Justin Bieber's tour with Kinect and it was all over Soccer-mom TV Shows.

Didn't Move sell around half a million or so with barely any advertising at all?

@SpideyAI

I never said the sales were great in terms of them spending 500 million on advertising, but it is a good start. Kinect just launched in Europe and Japan not to long ago, so I'm sure after Thanksgiving passes people will start Christmas shopping and sales will go up. I don't see them selling 5 million by the end of the year, but it could happen. Also with Move you have to take in the fact that if you want to play 2 players you need another Move, so that's another sale. Where Kinect is only one sale for 2 players.

So making back 20% of your investment in 1 week before the holiday season burst even hits isn't good?

1,000,000*$150=$150,000,000

$150,000,000/$500,000,000=30%

so sorry. They made back 30% of their investment.

You fell right into the trap!
So I guess that 500 million covers developmental cost to huh!? What about the monies spent toward the company that actually made kinects? If you really knew what you were talking about you would know that the 500 million was devoted to the advertisement of kinect, and has no bearing on the overall cost of kinect! Remember biggest launch in console history.

How on Earth do you figure MS has 100% profit margins?

What, you think materials, production, storage, distribution etc. etc. is all free? And for that matter, that stores take $0/0% profits on the product at RRP?

At best a quarter or a third of the 150 RRP would be profit. At best.

Same goes with the move - although being a physically much smaller item many of the costs in distribution/warehousing etc would naturally be smaller.

Right the ps move was awesome i have the gun thing from killzone still.