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Is It Time to Break Up Microsoft?

Is Mr. Softy worth more as an organ donor than alive in one piece?

The thought of splitting up Microsoft into different parts was brought up by a shareholder during yesterday's annual meeting.

"Is it time to consider breaking this company up?"

CEO Steve Ballmer naturally shot down the idea. Nobody likes to be told that the sum of a company's parts is worth more than it whole. It implies that executives aren't doing their job. It suggests that synergies not only do not exist, but that they may actually be detrimental.

However, Ballmer has every right to hear that question. Even adjusted for dividends, Microsoft's stock has essentially gone nowhere over the past decade. Apple's been on a tear in that time, and no one is asking Steve Jobs about a legal separation between Macs and iOS gadgetry.

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rebirthofcaos5657d ago

well, Ill post here to get disagrees for fun. Because the microsoft people will not like this new.

Active Reload5657d ago

I be damned if Ballmer doesn't have the best photos I've seen used to convey the message of what the articles try to troll him with =P

RedDragan5657d ago

If Microsoft was split up into it's seperate parts 5 years ago the gaming company that would have resulted and made the XBox 360 would be bankrupt.

The company would have lost too much money on the hardware to be sustainable and there would be no money for the timed exclusive multiplatform games.

Xbox would be dead and Halo Reach would be on PS3 and PC.

Chubear5657d ago (Edited 5657d ago )

Not for the MS loyalists. They'll go down with the ship, love it and be proud. MS are lucky to have such dedication from it's... consumers.

ryuzu5657d ago (Edited 5657d ago )

I don't think there are many "MS" loyalists - just like there aren't really Sony ones.

There are people who like their 360s more than PS3 and vice versa, but the companies themselves have to diverse a product range really generate a following in the way that say Apple does.

For MS as a corporation, things are looking bad because they have reached saturation in the desktop OS and Office software spaces and the only competition left is from the Open Source sector.

To grow they need/needed to diversify and that led to Xbox, Zune, Windows Phone and a ton of other products.

Unfortunately for MS all those products have struggled to dominate their respective sectors and in some cases have simply flat out failed.

So investors are nervous - they want their invesment not only protected but grown - and for that, they want MS to sell off it's non-core, weak and/or loss making divisions.

I can imagine a future where the xbox brand is either sold entirely by MS, or spun off as a separate entity (together with its debts and losses) - this will happen very quickly if Kinect is unable to make an impact on the casual gaming market.

Who knows, maybe Sega can find the cash somewhere to buy the Xbox division and return to the console hardware sector.

r.

RedDragan5657d ago

Wouldn't it be ironic if Apple bought it?

Biggest5656d ago

Good comment, ryuzu. Market saturation is a mark that every company strives for and fears at the same time. Microsoft's biggest problem right now is their "Jump In!" attitude when it comes to new products. They are following well established leaders in almost every avenue. It wouldn't be as big a problem if the companies they're going against were advertising slouches (like early PS3 outside of JPN). When you have Apple, BlackBerry, HTC, and many others with marketing and notoriety (Google) that matches or surpasses Microsoft, and it's hard for them to compete, let alone dominate. Dems tha breaks!

mcstorm5656d ago

I think now is the best time for MS to stay as one company as they have been acting as different companys with windows Xbox Zune ect. Where now you have windows Zune Xbox winadows phone 7 all linking together. I've been saying for years MS need to do this to get people to buy there products and also do it out side the us too. I think the next 10 years for MS are going to be big for them as they seem to be getting there act together with the new Xbox kinect windows 7 windows phone 7 and the Zune name.

RussDeBuss5656d ago

i do agree, but sony may well have been in same position, taking reported $400 loss on each early ps3.

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AAACE55657d ago (Edited 5657d ago )

If that made any sense to any of you, you will see that it could probably be a good thing if it did happen!

As it stands now, the Xbox division has to OK everything with the board. If I am understanding this right, the Xbox division could break off and be more free to do what they want!

This could mean more variety in games and a whole different outlook for the division! They aren't saying the Xbox brand is doing terrible or anything like that, but they feel that having the parts separate will help each other out better.

The reason I believe Ballmer is trying to block this is because most who are invested in MS would prefer just the software side. He fears there might be a drop in investors on the Xbox side of things, which would hurt the division as a whole!

Game sales haven't been doing well for either console based on how many units are in the wild and how many units a popular game sells.

The gaming industry is in a strange place right now, and a move like this could do good or bad for the Xbox division!

EDIT: @Droidcontrol... did you even read or understand the article?

Windows and Office are doing well! Xbox and Bing combined had a 200 Million operating loss! Those losses are making the MS stock drop. If they split them up, MS software stocks go up! Xbox stock potentially go up! Bing stocks possibly go up! As a whole, they are hurting eachother and the company in general!

Their goal with this proposal is to make the stocks rise in price!

KrazyFace5657d ago

What? Corporate stock splitting is your idea of a "serious gaming issue"!? Seriously man, that's pretty much fuck-all to do with gaming as a hobby. MARIO KICKS SONIC'S ASS!!! THAT'S a gaming issue, WHY THE HELL WAS FALLOUT NEW VEGAS RELEASED IN SUCH A GLITCHY, UNUSABLE, JUNKIE HUMPING, BUG RIDDEN, REPUGNANT MESS!? THAT'S a gaming discussion...

This is just corporate shite.

RedDragan5657d ago

Given the way things are currently done, the Xbox brand would die without Microsoft's financing.

That report does not mention the $1 Billion put aside for repairing the consoles, an Xbox company could not afford to do that and pay the $50M for timed exclusives ect.

Live does not get anywhere that sort of revenue to sustain it, and neither does the money made from software sales.

As a standalone company, Xbox is not viable. If this does happen, and it is likely because Balmer is not in charge here... the shareholders are... then Xbox will die.

Those shareholder do not want Xbox bringing down there profits and it is doing that badly.

(Is it $1 Billion they put aside or $3 Billion?)

Biggest5656d ago

AAACE5's fanboy is too powerful for the real world. First of all, this is not a gaming issue. It's about Microsoft as a corperation. Why you think Ballmer cares about the gaming division more than others is beyond me.

If they did split up the first thing to go would be the gaming division. It's been wasting money since its inception. The stockholders have been questioning its existence since 2007.

When the whole isn't equal to or greater than the sum of its parts, you split them up to eliminate the underperforming parts. Until Xbox becomes a stronger brand it would be more beneficial for everyone to stay together in the hopes that it will reach a point of large profit. Stockholders (the real ones) don't want to wait for that to happen with some of the Microsoft products. It takes money to make money is the usual mantra. In the gaming division's (more than just Xbox) case, it takes TONS of money to lose money.

bailoutbenny5657d ago

the investors will only stand by losing money for so long. and yeah, i AM a microsoft fan.

forcefullpower5657d ago

If Ballmer gets removed as CEO. You can guarantee that bits of the company will get chopped. as it is only him that is keeping the company all together at the moment.

MrMccormo5657d ago

Well, the vast majority of execs involved in creating/managing the XBox brand left Microsoft long ago, and Balmer just sold off all of his Microsoft stock, so...

Droid Control5657d ago (Edited 5657d ago )

Windows XP, Vista, and 7 are so similar in the way they work and operate it doesn't make sense to upgrage unless forced to. Which we have been.

Same with Microsoft Office. Slight improvements that don't justify the price.

Thats why Microfoft are in so much trouble...
They don't innovate.

Ducky5657d ago

... I wish they hadn't touched office's UserInterface.

Pillage055657d ago

I'm with you fatoldman.

Fadetoblack695656d ago

Couldnt agree more - Our company still uses Office 2k because we thought the new overhauls were complete garbage. I don't see us moving off of XP anytime soon either. Why pay those prices for buggy software?

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio16d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing16d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit16d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing16d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay17d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn218d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn217d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown18d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay17d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay17d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac17d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger18d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300018d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde18d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde17d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7519d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_17d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.