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Microsoft Suing Motorola Over Xbox 360 Tech

Not everything inside the Xbox 360 was designed by Microsoft; the console's wi-fi capabilities (hold the jokes) and some of its video codecs are licensed from Motorola. And are now the subject of a court battle between the two companies.

RememberThe3575716d ago

Motorola can suck it! You don't break your pinky-swears and get away with it!

BeOneWithTheGun5716d ago

Best part was a comment left on the site....

"The people who brought you complete pay to play online, the price increase to pay to play online, and overpriced proprietary hard drives and wi fi adapters are mad because someone is charging them too much for something."

RememberThe3575716d ago

Oh, the irony. We should all go to court and see if they'll decide a more reasonable price for all the things we buy too. We all know how the U.S. courts love us consumers.

/s

But in reality if Motorola and Microsoft had a deal and Motorola charged more for it then they agreed then I guess MS has a case.

Rush5716d ago

sigh... Everyone is suing everyone lately to many companies are being patent trolls in the modern world.

I honestly believe massive companies like Microsoft and Apple sometimes need to suck it up and stop behaving like a whiny little bitch.

Am not saying Microsoft started this as like I already said everyone is suing everyone, but someone needs to suck it up and stop continuing this circle of retardity.

RedDragan5716d ago

I don't think Microsoft has a case to be honest, the Wifi they are getting from Motorola appears to have added capabilities over what is offered on their Mobile Phones.

The streaming of AVC for instance.

Also, Motorola didn't change the price. The article clearly states Microsoft think they are getting shafted and want to the courts to now change a contract that they happily signed in the first place.

That is like me going to court and asking the Judge to force Vodafone to charge me less on my mobile contract!!!

This is bully tactics.

Redrum0595716d ago

now MS knows what it feels like.
it doesnt feel so good, does it?

Active Reload5716d ago

Its the only console with Wireless N. That is funny though...

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dragunrising5716d ago (Edited 5716d ago )

What I thought was funny...and ironic, was that Kotaku had Droid 2 ads featured on the web page of the article. LOL

On topic: Regardless of how people feel about online fees, its important to realize that contracts and royalties are what influence the price of the console itself.

OmarsAccount5716d ago (Edited 5716d ago )

Seems like Motorola pulled a dastardly deed on Microsoft.

-Cue my dramatic voice-
How will the fate end for these two companies!
How could Motorola do something like this!
Why am I even talking like this?!

Everything will be answered in the next episode of!...
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Sorry, its been a slow day for me.

Craptain_Steel5716d ago

This topic is about a court ruling, not about trying to troll or bragging about sales.

Moentjers5716d ago

your bubbles are dropping faster than the Niagara waterfalls...

BrianC62345716d ago

Here we go again. Microsoft is trying to get cheaper prices than they agreed to. They did this with the Xbox too. They decide they don't like the prices they're paying so they want a do over. Motorola should cancel their deal and tell Microsoft to go somewhere else.

Newtype5716d ago

It's why they chose ATi for their GPU instead of nVidia. Original Xbox had nVidia.

MorganX5716d ago

Probably because it's somewhat indirect based on the article. Motorola breached it's agreement with "standards organizations"

And to prove the charges excessive, it probably took time to gather information on what Moto was charging others maybe?

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio66d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing66d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9266d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit66d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing66d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9266d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay68d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn268d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn268d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown68d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay68d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay68d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac67d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger68d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300068d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde68d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde68d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7569d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_67d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.