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CVG: Kinect Review

CVG writes: "My left thigh feels as brittle as an old codger's elbow. My sardine-sized triceps throb like pre-teen adrenal glands enjoying an audience with Justin Bieber. My Trapezius is stiff enough to suggest someone's furtively injected super-glue under my shoulder bone.

I'm also suffering from other, less physical inconveniences: The aftermath of the incessant banging on my ceiling from the sleep-deprived curmudgeon in the upstairs flat, for instance; the spilled Robinson's stain besmirching my living room carpet; the fact I've had to look up 'Trapezius' online to work out which muscle is causing me jip."

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gigaware5678d ago

Surprised these guy scored it this high. I guess the score will depend on the amount of bias you have feel, taste and smell like which is usually what they are already use to.

Denethor_II5678d ago

http://www.computerandvideo...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this only costs £35 as opposed to £130:)

Blacktric5678d ago (Edited 5678d ago )

Sorry to burst your bubble but you also need PlayStation Eye to use it. And Kinect supports 2 players which forces you to add another Move controller. I'm not trying to troll or anything but if you don't like Kinect, at least try harder not to look biased when commenting about it.

vhero5678d ago (Edited 5678d ago )

How does Kinect supporting 2 players force you to buy another controller?? It doesn't.. stop trying to justify the price.. That terrible.. Also Kinect can't even do more than 2 players for the price I expected at least that.. You want 4 players?? That's 2 consoles, 2 subs to live and 2 Kinect thank you very much! I have 3 kids who I play games with so the fact is Kinect is no good for me as I cannot play with them as they hate waiting their turn. Plus my room is too small anyway.

also gigaware go away all the Kinect threads you been banging on about how Kinect scoring higher and laughing then come on a thread where it's not and called them biased?? CVG are pretty much a reputable reviewer as they run a magazine etc.. So have to be. Unlike Destructoid lol

http://ps2.gamezone.com/rev...

Blacktric5678d ago

Who said I'm trying to "justify" the price. As a hardcore gamer, nothing can make me buy Kinect right now because of its price tag and launch titles. I'm just saying that the guy is obviously biased when he says Move only costs 35 pounds. Yeah it does cost 35 pounds but if you don't have a PlayStation Eye, you won't be able to use it. And the thing you are just ignoring is, Microsoft is going "only" after the casual market with Kinect by using a completely different approach. You said you have 3 kids. Show me more than 5 retail games that supports Move which lets playing with 4 players at the same time. There are, what like 2 titles right now? And if you're not staying 2-3 meters away from your HD TV, then there's no reason to buy neither Kinect nor Move. Most of the HD TV's require you to play from that long anyway.

Denethor_II5678d ago

£300 if you want the 360/Kinect console package
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...
£280 if you want the PS3/Move console package: No link though as it has sold out and gone right up due to independent sellers.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Son...

Perjoss5678d ago

"Sorry to burst your bubble, but this only costs £35 as opposed to £130:)"

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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StoneyYoshi5678d ago

well they game move a 9.0 so i guess we gotta see some more reviews before people argue about wich is better.

justinb15678d ago

true, so cvg thinks move is better than kinect too

Jazz41085678d ago

Good score. I might have to pick this up once child of eden releases.

PS3pwnz5678d ago

I think micro$oft did more with that $500000 than just advertise.
*wink*

Hades13375678d ago

I guess Sony paid $500005 to get Move scored higher then...

FriedGoat5678d ago

sony didn't even pay half that to advertise move.
thats why the first 500000 they make on kinect wont even be profit.

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big_silky5678d ago

ooh another paranoid delusional conspiracy.

until you actually have proof of pay offs, shut up. as toolish as some fanboys are at least they let good scores on competing systems stand, it's not constant accusations of payola and shenanigans.

gillri5678d ago

I said a few eeeks ago on this site,

people who actually think Microsoft would pay people off need to grow up

bloody hippy conspiracy theorists

KageMonkey5678d ago (Edited 5678d ago )

You obviously do not know anything about Microsoft. Microsoft is KNOWN to use underhand business tactics if it means they can get a foothold and/or monopolize a market.

From paying out the media to standard organizations, Microsoft have employed underhand business tactics time and time again.

Read up on SCO's case against Linux. It stemmed from Microsoft having dealings with SCO to spread false information about Linux to slow its adoption.

Read up on Microsoft buying out the ISO in order to pass a vastly inferior document standard in order to stranglehold their Office monopoly.

Microsoft is known to deceive consumers if they can profit from it:

- Microsoft pays big names in order to pass their "controller-free" gaming as new and innovative -- But the functionality is no different than the Eye-Toy.

- Microsoft is tricking consumers to believe that "gesture navigation" to interfaces is the next big thing -- But "gestures" is one of the worse interface input one can conceive and Microsoft knows this.

- Microsoft is tricking gamers into believing the Star Wars demo is real -- But in reality, the game won't even be close to what they show. Microsoft knows that Kinect will NEVER be accurate enough for anything other than very simple games with very forgiving gameplay due to Kinect will NEVER be 100% accurate. Think about it: If the brightest minds can't even solve voice-to-text, due to the variations of human voice alone, what makes you think that a company that can't even make a secure internet browser can solve image-recognition with infinitely many variations of body shapes and sizes and infinitely many variations in movements?

As someone who has been working with technology for over 15 years, Microsoft's product marketing are based on lies and deception. If you are a consumer, you SHOULD NOT be supporting Microsoft.

PS3pwnz5678d ago

I was joking about the pay-offs. Besides, we all know Micro$oft would NEVER, EVER, NEVER consider a shameless thing like that to make Kinect sell more, right?

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1581d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1581d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691580d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1580d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791580d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1580d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1581d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1580d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1580d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1580d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1579d ago (Edited 1579d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1580d ago (Edited 1580d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1580d ago (Edited 1580d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101581d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1581d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101581d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1580d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101580d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721580d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1581d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1580d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1580d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1581d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721757d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901757d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1757d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131757d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1757d ago (Edited 1757d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1757d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1757d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771757d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901757d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1757d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901757d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1756d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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