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Kinect Cameras Ship 14 Million Units

Taiwan-based optical lens maker Newmax Technology has become the only supplier of camera modules used in Microsoft Kinect sensors and will ship as many as 14 million units of these modules in 2010, according to industry sources.

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Seijoru5681d ago

MS must really think they are going to sell 10 million Q1

xYLeinen5681d ago

If they do I will be the first one to admit that common sense is no longer common sense..

crazyclown5681d ago

if so, ill buy one myself, and let someone bash it on my head

ct035681d ago

Why can't you just accept the fact that everyone's taste is different?

There is a demographic that loves these types of games. Just because they're not up YOUR alley doesn't mean you need to talk trash about the people who enjoy this stuff.

Archdemon5681d ago

Spending 140$ + buying an xbox360 just to play games which consists of no story at all, no difficulty what so ever and maybe 15 minutes of fun which kinect will offer. Is not common sense.

darthv725681d ago

that's why gaming is the greatest medium of entertainment. You can do your own thing without the feeling you must conform to everyone else.

Common sense has nothing to to with someone who WANTS to purchase something. That is by choice.

Common sense is opening a door before walking through it.

shoddy5681d ago

They don't even have left over for reviewers.

Roozium5681d ago

Archdemon:

"just to play games which consists of no story at all, no difficulty what so ever and maybe 15 minutes of fun which kinect will offer. Is not common sense."

Sounds like Little Big Planet.

SkyCrawler5681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

LBP actually does have a story

The player starts out at The Gardens level, where the player's Sackperson meets the King, one of the Creators, the Queen, Little Xim and Big Xam, in charge of the Mini Levels; and their servant Dumpty. The player heads for the Savannah, where the next ruler, Zola, resides. When the player accidentally breaks one of Zola's statues, the player is asked to investigate what's scaring his buffalo; in return for his forgiveness. The culprits turn out to be fire and crocodiles, and the player has to clear a crocodile's name accused of eating Meerkat Mum's son, Stripy Tail. The player finds out that Stripy Tail is actually at a club with some female meerkats, underground where the meerkats live. After the player returns Stripy Tail to Meerkat Mum, the player does a favour for one of Zola's servants and goes to The Wedding (a story arc with a Day of the Dead theme), where his friend, Frida, is about to wed with her bridegroom, Don Lu. However he's gone missing; therefore the wedding is at stake. Later, with the help of his dog, the player finds him in a dark cave. Don Lu explains to the player that he got lost, and got tired that he couldn't find his way out. Getting him back to the wedding, Frida thinks he jilted her at the altar, gets her Skulldozer, and starts to bulldoze everything in sight. However, when she sees her bridegroom waiting for her, she realises it was just a silly misunderstanding, forgets everything, and they wed.

Don Lu takes the player to the Canyons, where Frida and Don Lu have their honeymoon and the player meets Uncle Jalapeño. The player frees Uncle Jalapeño, who was put in prison unfairly by the evil Sheriff Zapata. Uncle Jalapeño throughout the Canyons levels teaches the player about explosives. After the player chases Sheriff Zapata into a temple and defeats him, Uncle Jalapeño takes a vacation into the Metropolis, taking the player with him, where they meet Uncle Jalapeño's friend, Mags the Mechanic. She trades the player for a new car for Uncle Jalapeño,then the player can edit the car to their liking. The player next races Mags's nemesis, Ze Dude, who stole her car, and after the race drives it into the sewer. The player then goes into the sewer and retrieves her car, then stops Ze Dude and his bouncers, who were wrecking Mags's construction site. Ze Dude, defeated, praises the player as a worthy foe, and lets the player take his private jet to the Islands to train with Grandmaster Sensei, his martial arts teacher. Grandmaster Sensei trains the player to defeat the evil Sumo, who took over Grandmaster Sensei's castle and her talking flame-throwing cat; and the Terrible Oni, with the help of her cat.

From there the player goes to the Temples, to get their very own talking flame-throwing cat, the Great Magician's latest creation, who is the master of emitters. After speaking to The Goddess at the end of the Dancer's Court she guides the player to The Magician himself. After the player overcomes his toughest obstacles, he asks to defeat the Collector, which would be the player's "greatest challenge". The player, with some help from the general and a bear whose family the Collector has kidnapped, infiltrates the Collector's bunker, gets past his army, and frees the characters the player met throughout the game who had been kidnapped by the Collector and locked up. As everyone escapes, they thank the player, and wish him good luck as the player goes to confront the Collector. After the final battle with the Collector, the Collector is revealed to be a little, lonely man who only kidnapped everyone because he didn't have any friends, and hides in shame. However, everyone, including the player, offers to be his friend. He accepts, and everyone holds hands, beginning a new frienship. (Very simple but still)

No Way5680d ago (Edited 5680d ago )

Simple. Cause he has no common sense.
His moniker is "MS must fall!!!!!"
Anything MS most fail. Must suck.

If not.. Then everyone is stupid. Really.
Read his comment, people. That's what it says.
I'm not just pulling this from my booty crack.

Hideo_Kojima5680d ago

14,000,000 * $150 = $2.1 billion

If they manage to sell all of this quick they will make the money they've spent on it pretty quickly and their might be more casuals than we thought that are willing to buy this.

acky15680d ago

@Guntrol - they don't make 100% profit off of each kinect sold. Maybe $50 for each one sold (i don't know just a guess - maybe more or less).

14 000 000 * 50 = 700 million

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Nitrowolf25681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

they only really shipping if you go base off this depending on how many cams it uses is
3 cam: 4.6 mill
2 cam: 7 million

its shipped of modules not whole unit

the title a bit confusing without reading the article itself

DJMarty5681d ago

lol

Just like MS think 'Controller free gaming is new'

EyeToy says hi, done 7 year ago.

R gullable brainwashed sheep really gonna fall for this Kinect crap.

The tech is so limited without BUTTONS.

Armyntt5681d ago

Just because M$ wasnt the first to create the wheel it doesnt mean it cant improve upon it. Just like w/move. Sure the wii was first but the move is an improvement over the wiimotes.

cliffbo5681d ago

@Armyntt

MS has not improved on the tech though have they after all the Kinect camera only does low res 320x240 16-bit depth @ 30 frames/sec hires 640x480 32-bit colour@ 30 frames/sec and 16-bit audio @ 16 kHz

whereas Eyetoy does 320x240 @ 120 frames/sec hires 640x480 @ 60 frames/sec which camera is better i know which one i think is.

gamingdroid5681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

... and yes, does PS EyeToy do depth sensing? Can it do full body skeleton motion tracking?

Does PS EyeToy have two cameras?

I would call that an improvement even if some ares it is in't.

TreMillz5681d ago

is PS Eye an overpriced ripoff?

turnerdc5680d ago

They've had camera games WAAAAAY before EyeToy. I still remember playing a game with an Intel camera on my PC many, many years ago. So in turn EyeToy itself is a ripoff.

gamingdroid5680d ago (Edited 5680d ago )

"is PS Eye an overpriced ripoff?

That is a subjective question that is different for everyone.

For PS Eye it is a high quality camera, and I own one for a long time. Bought it on clearance for $30 with some card game. It is still sealed in it's package.

To answer your question regarding Kinect (since you you are sarcastically responding to me):

Personally, I don't think so and I'm really looking forward to navigating my dash, using voice commands, try out some different games and use the video conference calling.

I don't recall the Eyetoy doing any of that nor do I see any competing system able to do full body motion tracking at the $150 price point!

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NeoBasch5681d ago

7 million worldwide... possible, but unlikely. What do you guys think? I know of no one who is picking this up. I haven't seen much in the way of ads besides YouTube and Oprah. Maybe that is their core demographic. If so, they might not be far off. I still think it unlikely, but, if the 4:00 evening mom's want what Oprah has, it could happen. I doubt it though. Thoughts anyone?

zeddy5681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

if your an xbox fanboy you will probably buy this because you've nothing else to look foward to in terms of games because your dear company puts no effort into them.

King-Leonidas5681d ago

errr LPB does have a plot u know...

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PtRoLLFacE5681d ago

i wonder how many people would get the wrong idea lol, but anyway if it sells a least half of what is chipped in the first week, that ll be something impressive

N4PS3G5681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

what? You expect an unreleased product to say SOLD? It Obviously MUST be Shipped.

Killed4Less5681d ago

You do know this article is talking about a parts manufacturer?

What else are they supposed to do??

The lights are on but nobody home?

billbox20105681d ago

"notice the keyword "shipped""

funny thing cuz sony reported shipped 2 millions of move.. :(

Regal_Light5680d ago

Except Move is sold out almost everywhere...Making the "shipped" number a good reference point in terms of sales..

JasonPC360PS3Wii5681d ago

Yeah it's shipped because it's not out yet, PS3 fanboys still pissed over Sony getting caught in a lie.

Regal_Light5680d ago

How do you still have 5 bubbles?

Makidian5680d ago

You are an idiot. All of the console makers reports shipped numbers because that's how they track internal sales data, NPD, Media Create, and Chart Track do sell through numbers. Do you want to know why they do this?

RETAILERS HAVE TO PURCHASE THE CONSOLES FROM SONY/MS/NINTENDO TO SELL THEM THAT'S WHY THEY REPORT SHIPPED NUMBERS!

That's how their money is made, peripherals, accessories, etc, it's all the same. The groups that track sell-through do it so the same console makers and publishers know how much of their product is actually sitting in someones home. You clueless people that think you're so clever in saying Sony was caught in a lie need to head down to the store and see if they are in fact selling clues. Educate yourself and stop being a fanboy.

Nihilism5681d ago

lololol MS OWNS SONY, they've SOLD 14 million and it isn't even out yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/**sarcasm**

But seriously everytime I diss Kinect, 360 boyos get so upset they whip me up a few kindly worded PM's. It's good stuff.

Tito085681d ago

Because it has 2 cameras, it's 2 units sold for MS, lol!!!!!

DJMarty5681d ago

it also says 2010, which probably means the whole of 2010, last quarter.

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Raoh5681d ago

people read... its how many cameras have been shipped for the kinect modules..

there about what? 3 cameras in each kinect?

DontShoot-Me-Bro5681d ago

I think it has 2 cameras. and if so then its only 7 million kinects being shipped. if kinect has more then...even less kinects are being shipped?

Blacktric5681d ago

There are 2 lenses (one for recording the video and other is for measuring depth) and one microphone.

Seferoth755681d ago

Seriously 3? 466, 666.666666666... Yeah that totally seems like a legit number of units shipped.

Stop telling people to read and focus on the things you need to learn which is obviously basic math.

BrianG5681d ago

Sir, you need to learn basic math. 14 million divided by 3 is not 466,666. with a repeating 6 decimal.

It would be 4.6 million units. And yes, that would be a reasonable number of shipped units. But from what I see in other comments it would be 7 million units if there is only 2 cameras in each Kinect. Again, a very reasonable number to believe.

Raoh5681d ago

here is a pic of the inside of kinect

looks like 3 cameras..

http://www.i-programmer.inf...

http://www.i-programmer.inf...

1 lense for IR light
1 lense for depth image
1 lense for color

Mike134nl5681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

2 camera's one is infrared one is normal (+one infrared transmitter) 14 million camera modules have been shipped. Since they are talking about modules it could be they are referring both cameras (if they produce both of the cameras) as the 14 million, or maybe one of the cameras or possible even both of the camera's.

Also take note that 14 million camera modules doesn't equal 14 million kinects. For as far as I know there isn't much information on the other parts required too bill kinect (audio processor etc)

Nitrowolf25681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

So is this only 4.6 million actually whole Kinect unit then shipped?
14,000,000 divide by 3 since that is how many module been reported in each Kinect unit.

or is it 2 cams?
which is then 7million on the spot

Chicken Chaser5681d ago

"the motion sensor is made up of two parts: one IR VGA camera, and the projector."
http://tinyurl.com/2ucahap

It says 1 camera and 1 projector.

ct035681d ago

Of course it's just one camera. The depth recognition works based on an infrared projector.

This talk about two or three cameras is N4G-typical spin.

Nitrowolf25681d ago (Edited 5681d ago )

http://www.engadget.com/201...

"RGB camera for facial recognition plus video capturing, a depth sensor (an infrared projector paired with a monochrome CMOS camera)for movement tracking,"

sounds like 2

and according to this (thxs Roah) it's three
http://www.i-programmer.inf...
http://www.i-programmer.inf...

which you can obviously see on Kinect it self

one's for color, IR light tracking, deph of image

disturbing_flame5681d ago

It's gonna be a massive win for MS.

But not for hardcore gamer, if people are happy with that i think it's a win/win, for others there are consoles and PC that have good exclusivities next year.

Kinect will rule, even in Japan ? I think that's the big challenge of MS, conquer this new market, and kinect can do it

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio19d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing19d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9219d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit19d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing19d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9219d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay21d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn221d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn221d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown21d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay21d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay21d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac20d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger21d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300021d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde21d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde20d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7522d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_20d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.