CVG: Microsoft has promised that it is "not ignoring" 3D gaming - but suggested that the glasses-based tech used by PS3 is not "mainstream".
Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.
Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.
To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.
The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.
Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.
15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.
These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse
Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.
When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.
This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.
This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.
I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet
I mean.... what?
We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.
You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.
Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.
They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.
If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.
It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie
Helix is going to be stupidly expensive
Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential
I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought
That's going to be ps6 vs Helix
While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.
It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs
Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.
Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.
The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.
Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.
Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.
LucasRuinedChildhood,
For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:
1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.
2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".
In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division
A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.
Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.
Speaking to CNN, Microsoft studios boss Phil Spencer said that the firm was unsure about the future of glasses-based multiplayer 3D gaming - commenting that it risks a "weird disconnect" to players.
when has MS ever given credit to the opposition. Their whole mantra is 'knock what you dont got til you do got'
MS seem to downplay the opposition as many companies do *remembers rumble being downplayed by sony* Its just that MS do it MORE than the opposition in my honest opinion
@DelbertGrady
it may not be about anybody in particular but they wouldn't be saying this IF they were at the forefront. It reminds me how they backtracked over the hd dvd saga....hd dvd was the future until it was beaten so DD because the 'new' future if you get my drift
I guess wifi became mainstream this year too, huh? I guess whenever you release a console capable of rendering a 3D image and outputting it via HDMI 1.4 as required by the 3D spec, it'll become mainstream also right?
"Trying to get a bunch of people playing together in a room where not everybody sees the same thing ... is kind of a weird disconnect to me."
Oh, so now having split screen where each player has their own screen (thanks to the 3d glasses, they block out frames where the other player's screen is being displayed, a tech recently patented by sony) is a bad thing because it causes a "disconnect"? So we're supposed to want our friends to see which play we pick in madden? we're supposed to have them be able to tell where we are on the map in warhawk just by looking at our screen? this is a good thing how?
I see a bunch of shots being taken because their system can't do X feature, much like Sony bashed rumble when they legally couldn't use it. MS knows they can't do proper 3D. They know they can't do the full screen split screen tech where each player gets their own screen only visible to themselves all on the same TV. So they're bashing it at every opportunity. Saying they are waiting on autostereoscopic (which is very expensive and doesn't currently work all that well) buys them a lot of time to get their act together and release a 3-D capable system.
They're admitting that you won't see 3-D this gen out of them. not true 120fps 3-D in HD (yes, few ps3 games can do it to, but the fact remains that it has the capability should the dev choose to utilize it), and not 4 player full screen split screen all on the same TV.
"As a corporate mandate, I don't need to sell you a new TV,"
"That's not part of my business model. Other companies maybe have that part of their business model. I don't."
Yeah, you just need to sell people things they otherwise get for free, like online services, or video chat, or access to netflix or any other pay service... yeah. i'll take a sony rep trying to sell me on a 3dtv over that.
they make such headlines and are a top site in the UK
I don't think an expensive gimmick like 3D is going to have quite the effect as Developers having to cut content, pay extra for more disks, work on last generation's data protocols.
Rocks in glass houses and all.