ah Cliffy B, I like your games but you really talk out your ass a lot. Uncharted 2 was a shooter sequel that was loved by a lot of people, so was COD2, doom 2, UT sequel UT2003 was also a great game. There are many others also, hell Gears 2 was great except the MP had too many problems, its the developers fault if the sequel is not liked as much as the original not the fans, if you make it great people will like it.

BTW really looking forward to Gears 3 and Bulletstorm, they really have me excited for next year...so many games for 2011...

A good sequel improves upon and enhances it's predecessor. A bad sequel can make you throw your hands in the air, walk away and never come back.

Sequels are always welcome. Some great sequels that I have played in my day are...

Uncharted 2
God of War 2/3
Metal Gear Solid 2/3/4
Prince of Persia 2/3
Motorstorm 2 (pretty good but not the best sequel but a lot of new gameplay elements helped separate it from the 1st)

Then why does cliffyb create sequels.. Plus gamers dont hate lbp2 thats a sequel.

In general a lot of us are jaded when it comes to sequels. We know that many times it is an easier path for game companies to follow the money with cookie cutter sequels on the same game engine, rather than taking a little risk on developing new game concepts.

No, Gamers only hate bad sequels.

Gears of War 2

What nonsense. GOW 2, UC2, RAC series, MS2 and KZ2 all perfectly great sequels that were vast improvements over the last and Sony is about to prove it again with GT5, KZ3,LBP2 and Infamous 2. Fanboy whining about every minor change doesn't count.

I like stand alone games and brand new IPs .. sure you can make a new game in the same universe(E.g. Fallout New Vegas, or the final fantasy series) but not every game needs to have a sequel, I hate sequels because almost every game has one.

What I also hate about sequels is that, they just stamp a number beside them, no sub title. For Example Killzone 1, 2 and 3, Id prefer something like Bioshock, then Bioshock: infinite, not Bioshock (3), you get me?

=O

I say "gamers hate bad sequels"

just like

"gamers hate bad games"

so...pretty much, same argument.

Its knowing when to stop tbh, like in regards to mw2, it sucks and everyone knows its a glitchy piece of shit, but people play it, cause tbh there is very few multiplayer games that people play atm,my friends list always has players on mw2 or halo, and on PS3 kz2,uc2 and mw2.

I don't, some of the best games are sequels. I think he is saying that because gears 2 got alot of criticism... but the campaign was good in my opinion. They couldve taken out the whole reaver scene in my opinion...it was a little akward seeing Marcus and Dom sitting crotch in ass on the reaver's saddle.

Gears ' 1 campaign and graphics were/are better than gears 2. Gears 2 had a more fun multiplayer and more maps but it also had alot of flaws alot of which are still there now.

Gears 3 looks a little more cartoony than 2 hopefully they'll fix that. I wish they'd leave the whole waterworld theme and Seattle woodsy crap and go back to the gears 1 look. Torn up European looking buildings, rubble, cloudy skys= awesome. Deciduous forrest, mountains, and flowers=bleh.

Is that why you made Gears 2&3 Cliffy?

And I love sequels. When properly done, they give us more of our favorite stories, enchanced versions of already great gameplay and bunch of other stuff.

There is not one gamer alive (who buys games anyway) who does not own a sequel. That will never change.

The sequel hate comes more from the choices that the game developers make then from it being a sequel.

Usually a game gets a sequel if it was a great idea to begin with... Gears, Halo, Uncharted, etc.

Game developers almost always attempt to do some significant changes in the first sequel and many times that does not go over well with the gamers who loved the first game.

In the third game, developers look at what went right with the first two games, what went wrong in the first two games, and developer the perfect game in #3.

Also, first games are almost always with open endings and people expect sequels, second games you are always in the mood of "we know there will be a third", and the third is usually an epic conclusion of some sort adding to the game story and creating some finality.

i only hate sequels when you take the first game a success and totally trash the online MULTIplayer on part 2

I like Uncharted 2. If you do it right then people will love it.

Cliff seems out of touch.

We like sequels as long as they are as good or better than the previous game(depending on how good the first game was). Just because gears 2 did not get as great reviews by gamers does not mean we hate sequels. Just look at uncharted 1 it is really good and everyone wanted a sequel. We got the sequel and it was even better so no one complained.

So the bottom line is. Just make your sequels better and we are good.

We don't mind sequels it's the ones that suck or are not as good as the prequels that we don't care for.

Come on Cliffy shake it off get back on your game.

No they don't...

sequels are a gateway to ones first enjoyment.

Given how much it costs to make games and how long that takes, getting the games into the most gamers hands is not only best for all gamers, but studios and the industry.

"lead designer on the first three installments of the Gears of War franchise"

Any developer of a game old or new would be happy it's going to make more money.

August 26:
Gears of War on PlayStation
Helldivers 2 on Xbox
What a day to be a gamer!

Cliffy doing his best to be relevant and cool again.... sorry you Madde dumb decisions bro.

Yet, he was the one who bragged about it being exclusive, because he didn't like the PS3/Controller. Remember he used to attack people for asking if the game was coming to other platforms.

This guy is such a dork.

Hasn't been Xbox exclusive for a decade

Never thought I lived long enough to see this