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Analysis: Sony's Move Meets With Modest Response From Consumers

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Here is our bottom line: During a 15-day period in September (and two days in October), Sony launched PlayStation Move and reached between 1% and 3% of the installed hardware base. We feel that Sony has put forth a modest effort and received a corresponding modest consumer reaction. The company has much work yet to do, should it wish to make Move a permanent fixture in the PlayStation product line.

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Chaostar5695d ago

Question:

How come Sony themselves have stated that Move is selling above expectations and production is planned to be upscaled yet we have a daily article claiming the opposite?

yoghurt5695d ago

Because gaming 'journalists' know more than the companies themselves, did you not know?
hence PS3 being the 3rd fastest console of all time, and yet all we ever heard in the early days was that it was doomed and the end of sony's gaming effort etc etc

Shadow Flare5695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

All I know is, Microsoft wanted to sell 3 million kinects by the end of the year, and move has already sold 2 million, and it's not even Xmas yet, and it hasn't launched in japan yet

GWAVE5695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

*sigh*

Move is selling great, which is good news for me because I bought the dang thing for Eyepet for my wife, so I guess the more games that come out for it the better. I like it, but I still prefer standard controllers.

edit @ below "when compared to Kinect"

Let's just see how Kinect sells, okay? As of right now, Move is 2 million in the lead.

thor5695d ago

lololol no, it's because Sony give a load of PR spin to justify sales, when compared to Kinect it will have sold very, very poorly. Move's "success" did not warrant the amount of money pumped into it. That money could have gone towards ACTUALLY HAVING A SINGLE EXCLUSIVE GAME this holiday season.

kaos_fish II5695d ago

The Mighty Thor is a Mighty Troll!!

So, genius it's Sony's PR that 'spinning' Move's sales is it..? What's that $500million MS is spending say for Kinect then?

Does the 360 have an exclusive game coming this Xmas? - or is it nothing but Kinect?

thor5695d ago

360 has Halo (already released) and Fable III. Sony has 0 confirmed exclusives, since LBP2 got pushed back, and GT5 is TBA with all the signs that it will get pushed back to 2011.

Sony's statement said nothing. It was pure PR spin. Who knows what their expectations were? They could have set their expectations really low, or just lied about what they expected. Looking at the real numbers tells the real story. It's clear Move will not be a dominant force in the motion control market.

DatNJDom815695d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

since the us seems to love their half assed system with upgraded, yet flawed eyetoy. it seems europe actually knows a working product when they see one. By the way I live in the us before any of u assholes start calling me eurotrash or socialist. :P

DarkTower8055694d ago

Article A: "Move selling out, consumer demand high"

Article B: "Move not popular, doomed to fail"

Me: "WTF?!?"

FunAndGun5694d ago

"It's clear Move will not be a dominant force in the motion control market."

Gee, it's only been on the market for 1 month and hasn't even released in Japan yet.

yeah, OK Miss Cleo

Kewl_Kat5694d ago

@thor
"360 has Halo (already released) and Fable III. Sony has 0 confirmed exclusives, since LBP2 got pushed back, and GT5 is TBA with all the signs that it will get pushed back to 2011."

For sony, I think of it more as the calm before the storm. I wonder how you'd spin it once we reach 2011, when sony would have more exclusives than ms.

thor5694d ago

OK so you agree that Sony has nothing for the holidays. Bit sad really. All you can say is "bububu wait for next year" - let me tell you this. Games get pushed back. We know that from this year. I fully expect games such as The Last Guardian, Infamous 2, Motorstorm: Apocalype to be delayed until 2012. Sure, we'll have LBP2 and GT5 early next year, but having no games for the holidays is hardly good PR.

VandimionX5694d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

lol, I think MS is going to end up spending more on Kinect advertising than the R&D on both it AND PS Move.

We'll see who made better business decisions in the long run I suppose.

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Captain Tuttle5695d ago

If you read the article you would know that it's discussing NPD numbers and Sony's statement was about Europe.

Raf1k15695d ago

It doesn't seem to be doing all that great in the US but with MS pushing Kinect the way they are I'm not surprised.

BrutallyBlunt5695d ago

"How come Sony themselves have stated that Move is selling above expectations and production is planned to be upscaled yet we have a daily article claiming the opposite?"

Because most articles saying the Move didn't sell that well are based from NPD data, which is not a representation of world statistics. Sony would rather focus on all regions.

Makidian5694d ago

It's not even an accurate description of sales because as the article said it's an accessory sale so they are not tracked the same way. I don't care if Sony makes a public statement or not because I will read it in the fiscal reports where it will be stated on some level. I just don't understand all of these people saying it sold poorly when they have been backordered or completely sold out both online and in stores since launch.

360nPS3rTheSAME5695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

is awesome and it should continue to sell great

edit: disagrees?? I guess Move isn't as popular and wanted as I thought

bustamove5695d ago

...Your point being?

I don't mind games being pushed back because this year is chock full of multiplatfoems as it is. Should I mention games on the 360 that were pushed back as well? Really?

Please stop trolling.

StanLee5694d ago

Sony is saying one thing but wont provide the figures to back it up. Why haven't they release their North American sales numbers for September.

Makidian5694d ago

Because they don't have to. They don't owe anything to you or me or anyone but their bosses and shareholders. If you want better data become a shareholder otherwise get over it. This whole NPD thing is a recent phenomenon and I'm glad they have stopped making the data publicly available because it doesn't do anything but incite rampant fanboyism.

Microsoft only released their numbers because they are loud mouths, but if they sell low one month you can bet your ass they won't be saying a word about it, or they will to try to spin it positively.

Nathaniel_Drake5694d ago

Wow you just described the 360, get your console knowledge straight

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panasonic235695d ago

Dude u know Move sales are bad when sony is not going to release it numbers to the public.

The fact that sony hasn't release their September figures speak volumes.

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Makidian5694d ago

No it doesn't mean anything.

get2sammyb5695d ago

Before the trolls jump in assuming this is bad PlayStation Move news, it's actually the opposite. Actually READ the article before commenting.

Nobody expected it to sell a bajillion units in the first month. Move's always looked like the motion device to have the longest legs. "Modest" is good. It's not "OMGSOAMAZING" but it's not "LOLOLOLDABOMBA" either. It's sufficient, good, decent.

The hardware's actually brilliant, so the word of mouth will spread over Christmas and into the new year. Virtua Tennis 4, PlayStation Move Heroes and Sorcery will all give the device pushes into 2011 too. As will Killzone and SOCOM.

This article states it's been a decent start.

buffig5695d ago

Sony have stated that they will make a profit off every unit sold. They have acknowledged that they can't compete with Microsofts spending power and to me their business model makes sense. Profit from every unit sold & low entry cost (£40 in uk). Kinect costs $150 per unit to manufacture and comes with a marketing budget of $500 million. Therefore if Microsoft manufactures and sells 6 million units it would cost them $900m and they would still be out of pocket from that initial £500m marketing spend. While Sony are in profit from the word go.

Seferoth755695d ago

Love how you use UK price for Move and US price for Kinect but you only need 150 for Kinect. With Move you need 99 for just 1 player then another what 60? for Move controller and Nav controller per person?

Not really cheaper at all and it is kinda sad that you are on a gaming site spouting BS that only gamers who don't go online would fall for.

Biggest5694d ago

Instead of looking at which is cheaper, let's look at which one has appealing games for avid video game players. I'll take patched support for RE5 and Heavy Rain over Jumping Rafty Fun Time any day of the week.

buffig5695d ago

If you only want to play Killzone 3 or Socom 4 or perhaps LBP2 or maybe The Fight or Sorcery on your own, then you only need to pay £40 ($90 if it makes you happy). You have no choice but to spend £130 to play Kinect (not that you'd want to play a kinect game such as "Kinect Super Sportimals Family Excercise Jump Quest" on your own)..Speaking of gamers who don't go online, how come the number of xbox live accounts is so far below the number of actual xboxs. Either millions of xbox users arent online or theres about 15 million 360s on scrapheaps with RROD. Either way it sure is swell

mcstorm5695d ago

This may be a daft question but when they say they have sold 1.5m is that of just each kit or is is just the move controller without ps eye and navigator?

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PlayStation Move Controller Used to Perform Surgery on a Pig That Was 5,780 Miles Away

A group of surgeons made headlines after they managed to perform an endoscopic procedure on a pig located in Hong Kong by using PlayStation controllers. It involved the use of a PS5 DualSense controller as well as a PlayStation Move controller.

jznrpg585d ago

There is at least a few good jokes that could come from that title

Cacabunga584d ago

Yet another powerful device Sony gave up supporting. KZ3 move was one of the best motion controller implementation ever

just_looken584d ago

Right the ps move was awesome i have the gun thing from killzone still.

Relientk77585d ago

That's really cool. It's crazy something like that is possible with gaming controllers 1000's of miles away.

Lexreborn2584d ago

Guess that submarine should’ve used move controllers instead of logitech

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anast584d ago

PlayStation is saving lives and releasing the best games.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar1713d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal1713d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein1713d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1714d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS1714d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1714d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 7211714d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever1714d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar1713d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics1714d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1714d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos1714d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils1713d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics1714d ago (Edited 1714d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1714d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein1713d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr1714d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 7211714d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard1714d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb1714d ago (Edited 1714d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1714d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever1714d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal1714d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1714d ago (Edited 1714d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal1713d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH1714d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin1713d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars2901714d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo1713d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC1713d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy1714d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa1714d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins1714d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos1714d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever1714d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC1714d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever1714d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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