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How Microsoft's 360 has defeated Sony's PS3 this generation

It was not that long ago that Microsoft was the upstart in the video game industry. Microsoft had a ton of money yes, however, they always seem to lack the one key ingredient needed for a successful system, the games. How times have changed for Microsoft these past few years.

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niceguywii605687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

In a nut shell MSFT forced Sony's hand this whole generation and took advantage of the company's arrogance. Shaping the future of gaming also helped MSFT. In the end MSFT's focus on helping the 3rd party devs make money and stay rich will prove to be the greatest thing they did right. 2nd greatest thing MSFT has done right falling in second place is creating a motion camera that is more advanced then anything ever made for consoles that will share its market with no other company/device/console.

BulletToothtony5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

the only reason why they're ahead in sales it's because of a WHOLE 1 year head-start and a year and a half in europe..

is it really that hard to acknowledge that fact?

NoLongerHere5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

I personally play with games, not figures.

JOLLY15687d ago

What else do you play with :P...kidding!

GWAVE5687d ago

Usually when I hear the word "defeat", I assume the battle is over, which it's not. Both the 360 and PS3 are still on the market, and when looking to the future, the PS3 is the system to own, not the 360 (unless you're interested in nothing but controller-free casual gaming).

SiteNblog Defender5687d ago

Sony lost a lot of marketshare to Microsoft and Nintendo, so yes Sony was defeated.

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Zir05687d ago

Sony arrogance was their downfall. If they released the PS3 at an acceptable price the 360 would likely be discontinued by now and the 720 already in production.

Both MS and Nintendo have ensured Sony will NEVER dominate like they did with the PS1 and PS2 again.

Fishy Fingers5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

Your idea of an "acceptable price" would of no doubt put Sony deeper in the red.

Either way, the Wii laughs at anyone who thinks the 360 or PS3 is "winning". Play some games, you'll find that sales dont effect them one bit.

Dee_915687d ago

wasnt it the cheapest blu ray player ?

mugoldeneagle035687d ago

It's funny how one of the main reasons the PS3 was so expensive was Blu Ray, which will eventually be the lead format in market, and ultimately why the 360 wont be able to hang around in the long run.

It's already obvious. The PS3 went from being "too hard" to develop on, to the lead console for most devs and a lot of it is based on Blu Ray. And I HATE when developers say "It can only be done on the PS3" but its true. And Blu Ray helps them out a lot, and games benefit from it.

And here we are 2 years later, with both consoles roughly the same price, and both selling evenly. What a shocker.

raztad5687d ago

The "victory" of the xbox360 can be resumed to 5 words: "faulty and rushed to market".

I have to reckon the xbox360 has kept their leadership in USA by a wide margin, that is an important victory for MS. EUROPE and JAPAN is a different thing tho.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

A webcam that can barely track a players movements and who's games only plays on rails is consider by you to be the best motion controller to date? lol You're delusional.

MS has no exclusive AAA games for 2010...am I mistaken? So then what's all this talk games and superior motion technology? lol

"There is no longer any reason for Microsoft to take a risk with the 360. Microsoft know they have it made and seemed to be confident that they will defeat Sony in the end. As long as they keep churning out Halo and Gears of War games the sky is the limit for Microsoft. "

And this is why MS will fail yet again like they have with Apple in every sector except the PC. Music/Movies/phones/portable player/education segment.

And since when does US market-share replace global market-share? Because everywhere else the PS3 holds the top spot. Yeah the PS3 is doomed!

stuna15687d ago

I agreed with the first part of your comment, but then you had to go all fanboy on us with the last part! Popular to belief sony isn't going anywhere! Also the only thing that microsoft has done is expand on what made them relevant in the first place, and that is their online components, simple as that! The hardware side of the xbox360 is junk pure and simple, it the software side of microsoft that makes the xbox360 shine. Sony on the other hand has made a huge contribution to the forward motion of technology. By introducing a new media format in the process. What so many people fail to understand is, sony is so much more than video game console makers, and because they are they are able to share their technology across a broader spectrum of merchandises "TVs, Computers, Stereos, Camcorders, Phones, Walkmans, Auto Stereos, CD/DVD player and, a slew of other merchandise. There technology proliferate through to the very fabric of why they are sony and is shared on one level or another. Their very foundation is built on hardware.

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NAGNEWS5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

with timed exclusive DLC's and games

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5687d ago

What games? The PS3 gets more exclusive DLC than the Xbox. Where the hell do people get their info from?

jizzyjones5687d ago

F L A M E B A I T

Its year head start only got it ahead in the US, its dying in EU an dead on arrival in JPN. Take a chill pill

yoghurt5687d ago

sshhhhh don't talk about the year head-start - we like to forget about that....

Homicide5687d ago

"Its year head start only got it ahead in the US"

And PS3's lack of exclusives...
And Sony's arrogance...
And PS3 losing exclusives...
And inferior multiplats....
And Sony's marketing failures like the baby ad...
And Price....

strotee5687d ago

And PS3's lack of exclusives...
-- When? 2006? Sure, but seriously, do we even need to make a full list of all the exclusives from 2007-2010 (and beyond)? Trust me, you don't.

And Sony's arrogance...
-- Both sides have said some things they'd likely want to take back. Hardly anything to cry over, no?

And PS3 losing exclusives...
-- Sony has no control over what 3rd party developers do with THEIR time & money, which is why 1st party development is worth more in the long run. (timed) exclusive DLC? Yippie, sign me up. *rolls eyes*

And inferior multiplats....
-- Blame the developers of said multi-plats. They're more concerned with getting their product out the door and making $ than making a quality product. How's that Sony's fault?

And Sony's marketing failures like the baby ad...
-- Really? lol, ok I'll give you that (*cough* 2006)

And Price....
-- That's one thing they likely feel bad about, but, in 2006 Blu-ray was SUPER expensive. There was no way around it. They invested and sacrificed so much just to try to get Blu-ray market penetration that even at $600 they were losing money. They decided to bleed just to be fairly affordable (at the time). When has MS ever fell on the sword for customers? Here's a hint: they expect customers to do that for them.

Pennywise5687d ago

This guy is stuck in 2007. Someone call Doc Brown... we need to bring him back to reality.

Cloudberry5687d ago

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Except what I've read the title back in 2008 was "DOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMEEEEE EEEEDDDDDDDDD" or something like that.

LordMarius5687d ago

One year head start, cheaper, replacements, marketing
There is your equation

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio14d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing14d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit14d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing14d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted17d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8516d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele16d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk16d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay16d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10116d ago (Edited 16d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit16d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg16d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10115d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14916d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay16d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn216d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn216d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown16d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay16d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay16d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac15d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger16d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300016d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde16d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde16d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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