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What Microsoft Did Right With Kinect

"Let’s face it; there has been more bad press for the Kinect than there has been good press. I’m personally one person that just doesn’t find the Kinect as appealing as Project Natal was supposed to be. When they first announced this controller free, motion tracking device my first thought was “cool, I want that.” However once they had more details on Kinect at this year’s E3 my thoughts changed very quickly to “those games look dumb, why would anyone want that?” Well I can assure this article will be free from any Kinect hate, except for perhaps in the comments section below."

Cody @ VideoGameBlogger

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Hades13375699d ago

These points just reinforce the idea that Kinect is aimed at casual gamers and not us. "Ease of use" "Easy to set up", these are all buzz words for the casual audience.

TotalPS3Fanboy5698d ago

It's frustrating to use because half the time, Kinect couldn't even recoqnize your gestures.

And easy to set up? I don't think moving your furnitures around everytime you want to play Kinect can be consider easy to set up. You know what's easy to set up? Pop in a game and play with the regular controller... so easy, even a caveman can do it.

Wizziokid5699d ago

marketing sold Kinect, not the hardware.

GWAVE5699d ago

Even though you're gonna get disagrees, your statement is proven by the fact that Kinect defenders talk about nothing except "potential" sales and "potential" functions.

a.k.a they simply believed M$'S marketing.

codyodiodi5699d ago

To be honest I haven't seen as many advertisements for Kinect as I have seen for Move.

JasonPC360PS3Wii5698d ago

If marketing is selling Kinect then what is the problem with Move in NA? Lots of ads for Move here yet it's failing, failing so bad Sony won't even mention how bad it is.

Kinect is targeted for the casuals because there are a lot of people who hate controllers. Move is just a Wii mote and most people already own a Wii. Kinect offers somthing different, the ability to use your hands, body and voice only.

When you walk into the room Kinect recognizes you, there is no need to search for a controller, turn it on, and hope the battery is charged. You aslo only need to buy one thing. Not like Move where you need 5 controlers and an eyetoy just to get what Kincet offers right out of the box.

Also there is no need to replace a broken controller because there is no controller. Also Kinect offers instant co-op without having to buy extra controller like Move.

The Idea of using just your hands, body or voice is sexy and hip. Not to mention future aps with 3D TVs will allow you to manipulate 3D objects with your hands. Move has already been done with the Wii, and done better.

I know you PS3 boys love to hate anything Kinect but it's ok it just shows your fear. So keep coming back and keep making Kinect hotter, MS will love you for it.

btk5699d ago

They are doing the marketing right. The tech is totally wrong. Or at least the specs for this type of tech is wrong.

When you look at it - what do you need in a camera based tech to match Move or Wiimote. The resolution of the camera must be crazy - most likely 1920 x 1080 at the least with 120 fps to get the effect that the gyroscopes and accelerometers offer. And then processing will have to be on the camera device to get to the lagless input of a controller. But a 640 x 480 @ 30fps with the processing happening on the console side? The whole tech side is wrong. It is more than a PS Eye, but way off from even a Wiimote in terms of the experience the gamer gets. And we have not even started on the buttons yet.

So - except for hyping the product - not much is right with Kinect.

codyodiodi5699d ago

...The prediction that there would be hate in the comments section was 100% accurate.

niceguywii605699d ago

I don't even see any point in the hate at this point. No one cares what the PS3 fanboys have been saying, bashing Kinect will not save PS3 from Kinects market share earning capabilities.

Philoctetes5699d ago

What Kinect game are you most looking forward to playing?

ActionBastard5699d ago

So don't worry about the hate and sell your soapbox.

ApocalypseShadow5699d ago (Edited 5699d ago )

ADVANTAGE:it is easy to use as there aren't a complex number of buttons.
DISADVANTAGE:no complex set of buttons means no complex set of moves for hardcore gamers.

ADVANTAGE:you don't need a headset as there is a microphone built into the unit.
DISADVANTAGE:others could theoretically effect your game.

also,we can clearly see that with a headset and the Vision Cam,microsoft could have done most of what kinect is trying to do.microsoft just wants you to abandon vision cam(like always),and buy a new product for more than it should be.

ADVANTAGE:the camera does adjust so that setup is easy.
DISADVANTAGE:you need LOTS of room.especially if you want two players playing side by side.

ADVANTAGE:it does make it seem that "no hands ma!" is the future.
DISADVANTAGE:takes a lot of horsepower to do it.and microsoft took out a chip that would have helped greatly.

we'll see how all this plays out.and sure,ps3 gamers could EASILY come up with ways that kinect could be fun and add to gaming like this:

space combat
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
mini games and sports
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

looky here...another motion controller player.seems so familiar...
http://www.thisismotioncont...

sure us ps3 fans could defend it.but it's your job 360 fans to DEFEND what it should do.instead of CRYING about ps3 fans or fanboys entering the article.bunch of BABIES.

and i didn't even mention a thing about pseye doing almost the same things kinect is doing without using move at all......WHOOPS....

Bigpappy5699d ago

Kinect is already sold out and hasn't release yet. Good luck stopping it.

codyodiodi5699d ago

Sold out completely? Last I checked it was only sold out at some retailers. Still an impressive feat.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio24d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing24d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit24d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing24d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay26d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn227d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn226d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown26d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay26d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay26d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac26d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger26d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300026d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde26d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde26d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7528d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_25d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.