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MS: We need to put more resources behind PC gaming

Xbox 360 manufacturer says it will support both platforms in the future.

units5694d ago

start buying or building more studios then

toaster5694d ago

MS doesn't care about PC gaming, it probably just wants to port over Kinect so it can buttrape stupid people into buying Kinectimals.

GFWL is a joke, it's been broken and annoying since it was launched. Nothing good has come from Microsoft's attempt to gain PC fans. It'd just be better if MS stayed out of PC gaming altogether.

wwm0nkey5694d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

The new Age of Empires is pretty good, im loving the beta so far.

imvix5694d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

Lol true.

While Microsoft has been battling Sony. Both of them have been incurring nothing but losses.

Valve on the other hand has been quietly building and making PROFITS at the same time. Steam alone has reached a point where nearly 3million users are online at the same time, that easily rivals XBL. Steam numbers have significantly grown compared to the start of this year, where we hardly used to see 2.2-2.3 million people online at the same time.

Microsoft and Sony can keep making losses, the only real winner here is Valve. I already forsee next gen consoles launching in the next few years, with a reset base from 0. Steam on the other hand will just keep growing.

Games4M - Rob5694d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

Why would next gen consoles restart their live service from scratch ?

Live started on the original xbox and ported its userbase across.

PSN covers PS3 and the PSP.

All online services will continue to grow. I actually wouldnt be surprised if the PS4 used Steam as its community infrastructure - Sony and Valve seem to be pretty chummy these days.

Calm Down Sunshine5694d ago

Perhaps even Sony, Valve & Google, what with the new TV partnership.

One console to rule them all..

imvix5694d ago

@Games4m

Will PS4 games work on the PS3? nope they wont. Thats a base reset.

With PC you hold onto your older titles when you upgrade. Even if you dont upgrade there always is the opportunity to play next gen games at lower settings, something Consoles will never get. Hence when the Steam user base grows they have a good chance of keeping their older games (older games will even work on higher resolutions with newer hardware). While console gamers lose out on BC and face a situation where they need to build a library from scratch.

Dont give me the crap that you can keep multiple old consoles. No ones gonna be having a PS2, PS3, PS4 plugged on the same tv at the same time. Never mind the fact that hardware eventually gets old and fails. So will console gamers then keep rebuying older consoles or keep paying Sony and micro for upressed rehashes?

Games4M - Rob5694d ago

"Will PS4 games work on the PS3?"

I dont know and neither do you so your point is moot.

I think that its highly likely that they will because Sony has had a lot of critiscism over the lack of BC in most PS3's.

Still that just my speculation and im not going to use it as the foundation for an argument based entirely on assumption and neither should you.

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gauntletpython5694d ago

Classic instance of a publisher saying one thing ("We support PC gaming!") and then doing another (Closing Ensemble, not porting Xbox games like Halo and Alan Wake, etc).

NegativeCreepWA5694d ago

Esemble was turned into two studios so really they created a studio, fact your straight.

Tony P5694d ago

Sure, MS. The problem is, when you "support" PC gaming you tend to turn that word into a double-edged sword.

evrfighter5694d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

As a pc gamer I can say. They don't have to. Blizzard and Valve (Especially), Have done a fantastic job filling the Void M$ left when it went into the toy business.

Also as a pc gamer. when I see "support both consoles". All I see is "make better optimized ports" -_-.

Truth is they saw how much Sc2 sold at launch and kicked themselves in the a$$.

If they want to get back in the pc gaming industry they need to get in good with Gabe as they can't compete with Steam. Gabe won't allow that until they get rid of the restrictions on xbox.

I guess in the end pc gamers really are the console gamers last bastion of defense against the suits that keep bending them over.

Sarcasm5694d ago

It would have been nice to play Alan Wake in HD

Apotheosize5694d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

PC gaming doesnt want you Microsoft. I'm glad that you see which is the superior platform, but were not taking you back, while youre still cheating on us with the 360.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio17d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing17d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit17d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing17d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay19d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn220d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn219d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown19d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay19d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay19d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac19d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger19d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300019d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde19d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde19d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7521d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_18d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.