@ SimpleSlave

nothing has happened to the younger Gen, it's just as Games have become more and more main stream, you have more and more adults trying to dictate what they think the kids want ( half these adults are not gamers themselves )

We see kids all the time trying to get hold of games outside of their age rating, but as the media has pumped more and more trash about games being bad for the kids, well the games are turning pink and fluffy.

not to mention the invasion of the casual market.

personally I hate the direction this is all going. I like my xbox but I am not buying Kinect and I have no intention of supporting this casual crap.

I will tell you what really, really drives me nuts ! when you see the videos of the gamer shows like the recent expo and you see these gamers who you would think are hardcore and then they interview them playing some trash game and they are all smiles and going on about how awesome it is.

ok, ok, I know it's all about having fun... i am getting older and maybe it's just me being a miserable old sod, but it makes me grind my teeth. anyway, I suppose one has to think about the people who have worked so hard to make some of this stuff happen and even if I don't like it personally, others enjoy it so it's all good ( my mellow side is coming out now ).

What are you talking about? Very few people on this site are interested in Kinect, let alone hyping it. Impartial? Go to hell.

I am not interested in Kinect either, but I am also not interested in Move, I just tell myself that this will give me some time to catch up on the games I currently own and never have enough time to play, and once this motion control nonsense has run its course maybe MS and Sony will realize what Nintendo has just recently figured out and will start thinking about gamers again instead of casuals.