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GT5 Delay Decision Was “Made Yesterday"

“We’re really close, but this was an executive decision that was made yesterday,” said Taku Imasaki, the North American producer for Gran Turismo 5, in a phone interview. “Realistically, we thought we had a good date. We’re not happy over here.”

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-Alpha5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

They even delayed the announcement of the delay?? :P (I'm kidding of course)

There isn't much people can do now. I hope they give us a reason. Right now it's "they want to create a perfect experience". Now, I assume every good developer has this expectation and I know of many who have made, what IMO, are (near) perfect experiences in much shorter time.

You may say that GT5 is much more ambitious, but I have to say that some of the games others have made had much less people and less funding yet they managed to make ambitious games.

I'm not exactly sure why GT5 requires so much time, I do get concerned that there is a hidden reason when I see a delay 20 days from launch. I'm not that majorly upset because I was never a huge fan of the game, but I know of die-hard GT fans that are majorly pissed. And I'm glad to see people not blindly defending the delay. Sometimes enough is enough, and though I respect the desire to make a perfect game I do think that toying the patience of the community comes at a price. Never dangle a carrot in front of a donkey because eventually he will kick. I worry that if the game isn't perfect it's going to get a lot of backlash over even the tiniest of flaws.

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Fishy Fingers5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

It's somewhat easier when you have complete creative freedom, like the games you've listed. Modelling 1000 cars to the millimetre, their handling, breaking, acceleration characteristics takes time (a LOT of time). Recreating 20+ tracks exactly. etc etc. This takes a huge amount of time, a huge amount of resources.

Do you realise the amount of red tape that has to be completed when dealing with other company IP?

It's easy to criticise when you dont really understand the volume of work.

-Alpha5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

But does it really take THAT much time to do all that? My comparisons may be too unfair to use, you are right that GT5 is a game based on simulating real life and not making a free game.

Honestly I don't care ultimately for the delay, it's the fact that they dangled it in front of fans for so long, and then, with only 20 days left, they delay it. I just wish they gave us a good reason because it just seems suspicious to do. I doubt it's for marketing purposes, but at the same time, what could delay it for just a month? People were more OK with a 6 month delay or a longer delay because it meant there was more to be added, but a one month delay doesn't make much sense to me.

There were bugs in the latest build, and maybe it's for issues like that. Regardless, my complaints may not mean much since I've never been a big fan. I'm not trying to antagonize anybody, but I'm just trying to say that the situation could have been handled better.

Shadow Flare5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

well, alpha polyphony said each premium car took something like 180 days to build. Have you seen those cars? And its not just the looks. They try and make the driving experience feel like the car in real life. All of this, everything in the game theyre trying to replicate perfectly from real life. That takes more time and research then most games where they make whatever they wanna make

But i totally agree with the anger of this delay. Its just a little bit ridiculous now

UnwanteDreamz5697d ago

I don't think they have a good reason (from a fan perspective)to delay the game or they would have given it to us. I am not happy but what can you do?

I waited this long and I'll be damned if I am not going to be there day one and that is part of why I am mad. PD knows that its fans will buy it anyway after waiting this long. Loyalty like that should not be abused.

Christopher5697d ago

***But does it really take THAT much time to do all that? ***

Not to defend PD or anything, but if you're developing to match real-world elements specific to existing items, it does tend to take a lot more time.

Other racing games that aren't necessarily attempting to match real-world specifications don't need to worry about the physics of each element as it is designed in the real world and can just fluff it up. Nor do they have to worry about the differences between what tires are being used or the struts being used and so on.

If GT5 really is matching real-world items to the physics of their world, it will take a much longer time to get this done in a manner that reflects its real-world implementation. There's also a lot more graphical work involved in texture creation and sizing. Going from 14" rims to 17" rims and on top of that designating the type of tire/tread.

Again, not to say that this is why they've extended the release date, but if the game truly reflects real-world physics I can definitely see how it would take a lot more time than a game where you can create the physics of the world based on real-world experience but not intended to match it in any way.

Bobbykotickrulesz5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

Dude, they delayed GT5? No way. No fucking way.

Oh my god :(

thor5697d ago

The problem is, many devs manage to pull off an extraordinary amount of work in far less time.

The other issue is that PD have their priorities mixed up! Make a functional game FIRST, then worry about modelling cars to the millimetre. Nobody is going to CARE if a car is a millimetre out, so long as it drives mostly realistically and is fun. You know, who cares that such and such a corner is 1 degree sharper in RL? It's unneccesary detail that might be nice to have, but doesn't justify a buggy game and an extra delay.

BulletToothtony5697d ago

as much as i hate it as well this is all about $ most people buy stuff within a week of the release date.. they will make more money by releasing the game in december that it will in november..

$ talks

Hideo_Kojima5697d ago

But all of the 1000 cars, all of the 180 days spent on each Premium car, all of that should/must already be done.

It explains why it took 5 years but not why it got pushed back with just 20 days to go.

PS360PCROCKS5697d ago

200 cars x 180 days is 36,000 divide that by 365 days and you get 99 years worth of work. Lol so you take that and figure it out to 40 cars a year over 5 years. The studio only has 110 employees according to their website. So basically 1/5 of their studio was designing just premium cars for the past 5 years. Guess that explains what's taking so long. Haha

SasanovaS19875697d ago

il try to make things clear from a business perspective. Sony is getting ready to launch their 3D tvs...the delay of GT5 is pure business strategy.why? because it is the perfect game to be shown in 3D booths next to the 3D tvs...you pick up GT5, and u experience it fully in 3D, ur more likely to buy the 3D tv with it...GT5 is essentially an advertisement for their 3D tvs...you cant argue with Sony on that one, their a business, and their doing whats best for the company.

Immortal3215697d ago

Fck!(*while slamming head on desk*)

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Shadow Flare5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

It takes more time because its a simulation, not an original unique game based on fantasy. If you're trying to recreate real life things, i'd imagine that takes more time and effort to perfect then, okami for example. Youre criticised on how true to life and real your game is. Okami isnt going to be criticised for not being real enough cos it has a wolf that likes to paint pictures

i see the disagrees flooding in. cmon then, tell me why im wrong....

DelbertGrady5697d ago

I think you are wrong because if you model stuff after real life things(in this case real cars) you have specs from the manufacturers to go by.

And also, Polyphony have already been through a similar process 4 times before this game. It isn't the first time they make a racing simulator, you know.

RedDead5697d ago

You automatically lose bubbles if you don't like GT on this site.
I'm lucky they delayed it, I wouldn't have been able to get the game until the 20th in anyway. So I would just be being teased. Although that's not the case for most people, seriously what changes in the game can they do within 20 days?

AceofStaves5697d ago

The martyr complex is always good for a chuckle.

jc485735697d ago

They just don't want consumers to hold on to their wallet just for black ops. I guess Sony assumes that sales will slowdown for Black Ops by then and it wouldn't really affect GT.

UnwanteDreamz5697d ago

I love how people latch on to one side and pretend to be victims. If you go into a Halo article thinking you can offer criticism even if it is constructive then you have not been here very long. Fans take their fandom seriously.

ico925697d ago

i am so close to not buying GT5 its not even funny, and the fact that i've been a long supporter of the series hurts me to say that there's only so many previews and gameplay vids i can see of a game in 4 years i just wanna play it, its becoming a joke now didn't PD say the game was 90% done last year ? what have they been doing for a year ?

iPad5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

(this is MY comment that i wrote in a different article, and this comment is for you and to everyone who acts like him)

"lol you guys act like little girls.

omg!!! it got delayed!!! i hate my life! im not gonna buy it anymore!! lol.

chill, there's hundreds and hundreds of games out there to keep you company."

visualb5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

then don't....nothing in the world will change if you don't

@ iPad

yep... I'm cool with this, because I planned on getting it for xmas, however I do understand if people are upset. but deciding NOT TO BUY IT and then letting everyone know about it = hilariously pathetic

Thugbot1875697d ago

Theey did say 90% done last year. They were suppose to come out and compete with Forza but that team has released 2 times since then and I bet they will release a 3rd one before GT5 comes out.

UnwanteDreamz5697d ago

I don't want to shout any upset fans down. I am right there with you but I seriously think that not buying is "cutting your nose off to spite your face" I mean you could wait 5 or 6 years to play it or never play it at all. Not playing GT5 isn't an option for me at this point. Really pisses me off that they have me by the short and curlies.

bunfighterii5697d ago

They probably just discovered a few bugs that needed ironing out. Hopefully it's the last delay and we see it before christmas.

Strikepackage Bravo5697d ago

so many of you defending them saying its only been one delay, made them feel like they would be fine to delay it again.

This is why I say, it is not good to defend these companies, we as consumers need to demand only the best treatment from them, you act like a bunch of brain washed zombies and they will treat you like it, now make a stink about this people, Sony is way too nonchalant about disappointing its customers.

The fact that once again, after 6 years in development, GT5 STILL does not have a release date, shows what they think of you.

phosphor1125697d ago

They probably don't have enough copies.

It would make sense.. Russia says they can't get their hands on any GT5's... preorders stopped for many sites days before hand saying "sold out."

EvilBlackCat5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

"Sony’s reason this time is that Gran Turismo’s creator, Kazunori Yamauchi, and his developers team at Polyphony Digital “want to make certain they are creating the perfect racing experience.”

“We’re really close, but this was an executive decision that was made yesterday,” said Taku Imasaki, the North American producer for “Gran Turismo 5,” in a phone interview. “Realistically, we thought we had a good date. We’re not happy over here.”

Well... blame Halo Reach 4,000,000 on 1st day for this.

They are just afraid to have a less number on 1st day.

yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

@ below

SUPER MEGA LOL!!!!

Cenobia5697d ago

We get it. You're super excited about sales.

My favorite games of all times didn't have stellar sales, but I guess it's cool if you feel comforted by the fact that you are doing what everyone else is.

Congratulations for winning a popularity contest?

popup5697d ago

I hope my nightmare does not come true.....

jwatt5697d ago

I just came from pre-ordering this game and then I see this article. I think it's more of a marketing strategy so people will be more aware that it's coming out.

bviperz5697d ago

We'll find a way to carry on. We've been waiting this long. I think the initial phase of shock then anger is wearing off for me. Next is understanding. Make me understand PD.

MNicholas5697d ago

This game is doing things a GeForce 7900GT (the GPU on which the PS3 is based) is not supposed to do.

The resolution, frame-rate and sheer quality of the visuals seemingly defies the laws of physics.

With such a bleeding edge engine running such a complex game on such complex hardware, there's bound to be some surprise bugs here and there.

While I doubt they'll eliminate them all together, they surely wouldn't want too many videos similar to these on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Domer255697d ago

Yeah I'm pissed. Still buying it though. :p

Newtype5697d ago

3 months each to take photos of the premium cars.

tplarkin75697d ago

Three full AAA racing games from Turn10 since Gran Turismo 4 was released on PS2. Will Forza 4 come out before GT5?

PSP games and Prologues don't count.

Steve_05697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

@tplarkin7,

"PSP games and Prologues don't count."

Why not? In that case, Forza games don't count, just because I said so. I dont think any Forza game really competes with GT so therefore none of the games to me count as a competitor. Things like the modeling detail, lighting, 16 cars on track at once, track editor, sheer number of cars and tracks, dynamic weather and day-night cycle... Forza just isn't nearly on the same level. When they have the equivalent of GT Academy I might consider it - the huge international competitions are proof that GT is much more than a game - It's the racing experience as accurate as they strive to make it.

Have fun re-buying Forza 3 in the "Ultimate edition" form just to get some DLC which is unavailable for you to pay for, even though you gladly (and blindly) would.

EDIT: Since you lack any more bubbles, I would love for you to PM me a response - I'm looking for a laugh this morning.

Jamegohanssj55697d ago

ROFLMFAO! I almost spit out my water bottle(Yes! my water bottle) laughing at this.

TGSI

Hitman07695697d ago

This is exciting regardless! I'm dying to play this and no amount of delays will stop me from it.

ChickeyCantor5697d ago

"Right now it's "they want to create a perfect experience". "

Every developer knows that the word "perfect" doesn't exist within their realm. Cause in the end they will always say that things could be done differently.

Even though i'm not going to play this game. I do agree however. Im kinda surprised its taking them this long. By now they should at least have editors for almost everything. But then again, modeling a car could take time...

Ilikegames765697d ago

is going to be delayed, but I can wait for a few weeks. I'm a patient man, and to make the wait more bearable, I deleted my GT5P and GT PSP save games and start playing it again from scratch.

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Pika-pie5696d ago

Oh man, this is a shame but I probably wouldnt have been buying it on release anyway. Fallout is out next week so that will be my big time sink for about a month

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jc485735697d ago

Oh, if it's a demand issue, then I guess Sony doesn't really care if people do cancel their preoders because there are going to be people with money "by then" to fill those cancellations by simply walking into any retail stores.

AceofStaves5697d ago

Wishful thinking there? Or do you truly believe millions of people are going to cancel their preorders because of the game's first official delay in the West?

GT is just one of those gaming franchises, like Halo and Pokemon, that sell millions. The series has gotten along quite well without my money; I've never bought or played a GT game. A few nerds canceling preorders because they can't wait a little extra time will be like a rock tossed into the ocean.

Hellsvacancy5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

And there i was thinkin MR PS3 woke up this mornin and decided 2 delay GT5 just like that, i bet they knew weeks ago that theyd change the release date

Mmmkay5697d ago

dude, even I kinda knew it since we never heard about GT5 going gold...

Dance5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

you can thank call of duty for the delay

PirateThom5697d ago

Call of Duty can go to hell.

jc485735697d ago

it's like buying a game with yours eyes closed. Really can't stand the franchise or the genre itself.

-Alpha5697d ago

I don't think GT has any reason to fear CoD. They are two entirely different games for two entirely different audiences.

I also don't think Sony would selfishly seek to maximize holiday profits for GT5 at the expense of pissing off the community like this. Maybe they have a hidden feature, maybe there is a serious internal issue, maybe they want to add finishing touches. I just wish they have a straight answer.

jc485735697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

^^if it's not Black Ops then I really don't know what is. There are millions of people out there and how do we know that GT is only designed for that "specific audience" you speak of.

Just look at the preorder chart for god sakes. Look at how Black Ops goes off the chart.

jc485735697d ago

yea just delay call of duty and see how they react.

Eu5697d ago

There would be riots.....

I agree with PirateThom, CoD may be ONE of the reasons for the delay, but its not the only one Im sure.

Graey5697d ago

I can't see them delaying it because of that. Personally I think COD is only popular because people all want to be in the in crowd. People all want to let others know that they are playing that, and to not play it means your not cool.

Yes I know sounds a bit crazy right. Take a look at the Iphone, the Ipad. Yes they may be great devices in their own right. But do you really think everyone has one just because they are great...or more so because its a keeping up with the joneses type of thing.

Same with Starbucks: You ever notice how people go there to read, or use their laptops to write their "novels"...seriously . Only so people can see them. Its all and ego based thing.

COD: same way...we now that no one really gives a crap about the sp of the game. Why, because it's all about the MP. Bragging rights, being the first to do something, getting all those kills, being Uber.

WOW: is a perfect example as well. I play the hell out of this game by the way. But Being Uber/Leet is not an agenda of mine.

So...that being said COD is going to sell regardless and if Sony is trying to defend against that with any game, they are going to have to push that game roughly 2 months before or after COD. COD is going to sell in the millions, but take into account its also going to be on multiple platforms.

GT5 is going to sell millions as well, and its on one platform. But also add that its also a racing game. The pinnacle of racing but still a racing game. I have no doubt COD will sell more, but GT5 is legend, COD is a fad. Not saying the game won't be good, but there is suddenly a shift from what is good and what is "in" with this series.

bunfighterii5697d ago

I never thought of that one, but could be. I've preordered both

OtherWhiteMeat5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

Is that Gears of War 3 excuse???

likedamaster5697d ago (Edited 5697d ago )

Gran Turismo franchise is quite popular, why would they be afraid to release it alongside COD?

No one knows for sure, though. The more annoying thing is when final expectations are not being met, e.g. delays, especially after waiting so long.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted22d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8522d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele22d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk22d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay22d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10122d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit21d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg21d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14922d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_35d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle35d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit35d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog35d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog35d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad35d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_35d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage35d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda35d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong61d ago

looks god awful on the base systems